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wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Grey Cat posted:

This also gives me an excuse to post a fun bug I've run into a couple times.
Some sort of invisible expanding object with collision that effects tons of environment stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ycbVlh_T8

they shouldve sent a poet :waycool:

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Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
A friend gifted this to me and it just wouldn't run. Wouldn't even start, just nothing, had to refund it and can't even review experience because Steam guards their golden gooses.

I will say it's deeply funny that Todd thought they could pull this off in Gamebryo, Bethesda's version is probably the most tortured ancient engine currently in use for something this size.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Sorry your computer is old

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Millions of people lining up to play the latest Bethesda or Blizzard slop.

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
crap I think I spent one too many hours playing this nightmare..

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

Edgar posted:

crap I think I spent one too many hours playing this nightmare..


hasn't the game only been out for 10 days?

268 hours is 11 days nonstop

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
I may or may not have the game running my BG.. doesn't eat that much resources.. I spend 5-10 minutes on my break to shoot space bugs

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things


roomtone posted:

hasn't the game only been out for 10 days?

268 hours is 11 days nonstop

The crack was out a week before.
:yarr:

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Apparently there's some kind of star powers or some stupid bullshit like that? I've been reading about it but try not to spoil it for myself. But what I will say is I already feel so loving overpowered when I'm in my bipedal configuration. It's just seems like the ship on ship combat is just so stupid and annoying. And it's so loving expensive to actually get your ship to be a viable combat vessel. You literally have to steal like 15 different ships to get enough credits to then outfit your ship worthwhile and then if you upgrade it too much you'll end up loving yourself over because you'll no longer have a rate of fire that's worthwhile. You'll be able to shoot like one shot and it depletes your entire loving energy.

Literally depressing that the game sucks this bad I mean I'm out 400 loving dollars on a graphics card to play the loving thing because I experience what that other guy experienced which is the game literally crashed as soon as I got out of the bullshit mining mission thing.

Bethesda definitely hosed this one up. I mean complete and utter fumble not worth ever purchasing. I mean I am glad I got it for free and then I got the premium version also for free. It's just so stupid and sad. Like I was saying earlier it does seem like a lot of features were half baked and just not completed or ignored completely after the initial development.

Here's a few things: oxygen never runs out. Your ship will always keep you oxygenated even in the harshest environments. You can literally buy all the resources you need to get more resources but the only point of resources is to get more resources. I mean you really don't even need to research poo poo because you get overpowered so loving quickly if you do the right couple missions

You can build a bunch of outposts and poo poo but it's not like you can create spaceports or docks or buildings or anything like that literally the only point of an outpost is to make more resources. Which is really annoying like I was hoping I'd be able to make a ship out of all these resources that I was getting but nope.

Everything is based around credits. And credits are as rare as loving gold because apparently the vendors are destitute poverty at any time and have less than $100 to run their shop. I mean that's pretty insolvent in my eyes.

A vendor can buy the equivalent of 50 soda pops at any given time. That's how rich the greatest galactic empire that the universe has ever seen gets.

All the clothes are the same poo poo there's no cool stuff like you don't even have an upper and lower body in clothes it's all just one piece loving poo poo.

I don't even get to choose my pants. The game does not have pants. You thought meta quest was bad without having legs will this game doesn't even have loving pants gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress that's how I feel about this loving poo poo game.

Literally that like you can build turrets for your Outpost apparently but there's no one that's actually going to loving pirate your rear end. Like there's nobody that's actually going to do anything about your outpost on half these planets that actually have viable resources. There's no bugs there's no cool creatures there's loving nothing. If you really want the resources like uranium and hydrogen 3 and all that other crap there's nothing because there's no loving oxygen or anything. Like it's just loving stupid I feel so loving annoyed at this loving game and gently caress

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Incremus posted:

I really liked the little bumpy noises the UI makes when you’re going through the character creator. I’m a few hours in now but nothing has been as good as those little noises were
they should just make a game thats a character creator with ALL the options

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Apparently there's some kind of star powers or some stupid bullshit like that? I've been reading about it but try not to spoil it for myself. But what I will say is I already feel so loving overpowered when I'm in my bipedal configuration. It's just seems like the ship on ship combat is just so stupid and annoying. And it's so loving expensive to actually get your ship to be a viable combat vessel. You literally have to steal like 15 different ships to get enough credits to then outfit your ship worthwhile and then if you upgrade it too much you'll end up loving yourself over because you'll no longer have a rate of fire that's worthwhile. You'll be able to shoot like one shot and it depletes your entire loving energy.

Literally depressing that the game sucks this bad I mean I'm out 400 loving dollars on a graphics card to play the loving thing because I experience what that other guy experienced which is the game literally crashed as soon as I got out of the bullshit mining mission thing.

Bethesda definitely hosed this one up. I mean complete and utter fumble not worth ever purchasing. I mean I am glad I got it for free and then I got the premium version also for free. It's just so stupid and sad. Like I was saying earlier it does seem like a lot of features were half baked and just not completed or ignored completely after the initial development.

Here's a few things: oxygen never runs out. Your ship will always keep you oxygenated even in the harshest environments. You can literally buy all the resources you need to get more resources but the only point of resources is to get more resources. I mean you really don't even need to research poo poo because you get overpowered so loving quickly if you do the right couple missions

You can build a bunch of outposts and poo poo but it's not like you can create spaceports or docks or buildings or anything like that literally the only point of an outpost is to make more resources. Which is really annoying like I was hoping I'd be able to make a ship out of all these resources that I was getting but nope.

Everything is based around credits. And credits are as rare as loving gold because apparently the vendors are destitute poverty at any time and have less than $100 to run their shop. I mean that's pretty insolvent in my eyes.

A vendor can buy the equivalent of 50 soda pops at any given time. That's how rich the greatest galactic empire that the universe has ever seen gets.

All the clothes are the same poo poo there's no cool stuff like you don't even have an upper and lower body in clothes it's all just one piece loving poo poo.

I don't even get to choose my pants. The game does not have pants. You thought meta quest was bad without having legs will this game doesn't even have loving pants gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress that's how I feel about this loving poo poo game.

Literally that like you can build turrets for your Outpost apparently but there's no one that's actually going to loving pirate your rear end. Like there's nobody that's actually going to do anything about your outpost on half these planets that actually have viable resources. There's no bugs there's no cool creatures there's loving nothing. If you really want the resources like uranium and hydrogen 3 and all that other crap there's nothing because there's no loving oxygen or anything. Like it's just loving stupid I feel so loving annoyed at this loving game and gently caress

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Apparently there's some kind of star powers or some stupid bullshit like that? I've been reading about it but try not to spoil it for myself. But what I will say is I already feel so loving overpowered when I'm in my bipedal configuration. It's just seems like the ship on ship combat is just so stupid and annoying. And it's so loving expensive to actually get your ship to be a viable combat vessel. You literally have to steal like 15 different ships to get enough credits to then outfit your ship worthwhile and then if you upgrade it too much you'll end up loving yourself over because you'll no longer have a rate of fire that's worthwhile. You'll be able to shoot like one shot and it depletes your entire loving energy.

Literally depressing that the game sucks this bad I mean I'm out 400 loving dollars on a graphics card to play the loving thing because I experience what that other guy experienced which is the game literally crashed as soon as I got out of the bullshit mining mission thing.

Bethesda definitely hosed this one up. I mean complete and utter fumble not worth ever purchasing. I mean I am glad I got it for free and then I got the premium version also for free. It's just so stupid and sad. Like I was saying earlier it does seem like a lot of features were half baked and just not completed or ignored completely after the initial development.

Here's a few things: oxygen never runs out. Your ship will always keep you oxygenated even in the harshest environments. You can literally buy all the resources you need to get more resources but the only point of resources is to get more resources. I mean you really don't even need to research poo poo because you get overpowered so loving quickly if you do the right couple missions

You can build a bunch of outposts and poo poo but it's not like you can create spaceports or docks or buildings or anything like that literally the only point of an outpost is to make more resources. Which is really annoying like I was hoping I'd be able to make a ship out of all these resources that I was getting but nope.

Everything is based around credits. And credits are as rare as loving gold because apparently the vendors are destitute poverty at any time and have less than $100 to run their shop. I mean that's pretty insolvent in my eyes.

A vendor can buy the equivalent of 50 soda pops at any given time. That's how rich the greatest galactic empire that the universe has ever seen gets.

All the clothes are the same poo poo there's no cool stuff like you don't even have an upper and lower body in clothes it's all just one piece loving poo poo.

I don't even get to choose my pants. The game does not have pants. You thought meta quest was bad without having legs will this game doesn't even have loving pants gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress that's how I feel about this loving poo poo game.

Literally that like you can build turrets for your Outpost apparently but there's no one that's actually going to loving pirate your rear end. Like there's nobody that's actually going to do anything about your outpost on half these planets that actually have viable resources. There's no bugs there's no cool creatures there's loving nothing. If you really want the resources like uranium and hydrogen 3 and all that other crap there's nothing because there's no loving oxygen or anything. Like it's just loving stupid I feel so loving annoyed at this loving game and gently caress

lol

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Lol it's just a mediocre game

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

anyone saying play no mans sky tho is being disingenuous af. they're both space games but that's about it. oh and they both suck and im sinking way too many hours into yhem

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
it's bland enough. It reminds me of raisin bran cereal :)

Roundup Ready
Mar 10, 2004

ACCIDENTAL SHIT POSTER


MrQwerty posted:

Lol it's just a mediocre Bethesda game

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Apparently there's some kind of star powers or some stupid bullshit like that? I've been reading about it but try not to spoil it for myself. But what I will say is I already feel so loving overpowered when I'm in my bipedal configuration. It's just seems like the ship on ship combat is just so stupid and annoying. And it's so loving expensive to actually get your ship to be a viable combat vessel. You literally have to steal like 15 different ships to get enough credits to then outfit your ship worthwhile and then if you upgrade it too much you'll end up loving yourself over because you'll no longer have a rate of fire that's worthwhile. You'll be able to shoot like one shot and it depletes your entire loving energy.

Literally depressing that the game sucks this bad I mean I'm out 400 loving dollars on a graphics card to play the loving thing because I experience what that other guy experienced which is the game literally crashed as soon as I got out of the bullshit mining mission thing.

Bethesda definitely hosed this one up. I mean complete and utter fumble not worth ever purchasing. I mean I am glad I got it for free and then I got the premium version also for free. It's just so stupid and sad. Like I was saying earlier it does seem like a lot of features were half baked and just not completed or ignored completely after the initial development.

Here's a few things: oxygen never runs out. Your ship will always keep you oxygenated even in the harshest environments. You can literally buy all the resources you need to get more resources but the only point of resources is to get more resources. I mean you really don't even need to research poo poo because you get overpowered so loving quickly if you do the right couple missions

You can build a bunch of outposts and poo poo but it's not like you can create spaceports or docks or buildings or anything like that literally the only point of an outpost is to make more resources. Which is really annoying like I was hoping I'd be able to make a ship out of all these resources that I was getting but nope.

Everything is based around credits. And credits are as rare as loving gold because apparently the vendors are destitute poverty at any time and have less than $100 to run their shop. I mean that's pretty insolvent in my eyes.

A vendor can buy the equivalent of 50 soda pops at any given time. That's how rich the greatest galactic empire that the universe has ever seen gets.

All the clothes are the same poo poo there's no cool stuff like you don't even have an upper and lower body in clothes it's all just one piece loving poo poo.

I don't even get to choose my pants. The game does not have pants. You thought meta quest was bad without having legs will this game doesn't even have loving pants gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress that's how I feel about this loving poo poo game.

Literally that like you can build turrets for your Outpost apparently but there's no one that's actually going to loving pirate your rear end. Like there's nobody that's actually going to do anything about your outpost on half these planets that actually have viable resources. There's no bugs there's no cool creatures there's loving nothing. If you really want the resources like uranium and hydrogen 3 and all that other crap there's nothing because there's no loving oxygen or anything. Like it's just loving stupid I feel so loving annoyed at this loving game and gently caress

People Playground is only 10 doll hairs on steam and a much more fulfilling experience than starfield OP.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

EorayMel posted:

People Playground is only 10 doll hairs on steam and a much more fulfilling experience than starfield OP.

At this point I'd rather buy bad rats

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

EorayMel posted:

People Playground is only 10 doll hairs on steam and a much more fulfilling experience than starfield OP.

looks like a peice of poo poo op

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Gunplay is when you lick the gun and then gently rub it around your taint.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Why do you loving people keep calling a gunplay like I want gun kata you fucks. I mean this is a space game and all you people can talk about is the loving gunplay like why don't I go play Black then. It's about the loving spaceships even Bethesda seems to forget that so I guess I can't fault any of you for it


It's like they ported the loving carriage from Skyrim into starfield and just put dressing on it and added a couple turrets


Look folks fret not. I mean I don't know why I'm complaining so much has anyone looked at the resolution detail on these sandwiches? I mean you can see every hole in the bread on these sandwiches. It's comparable to Call of duty's revolutionary fish physics

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:


It's like they ported the loving carriage from Skyrim into starfield and just put dressing on it and added a couple turrets

Well yeah because that's all they can do. They've pushed this ancient engine as far as it can go in terms of functionality, so until they fork over the cash to build their thing on a modern engine, all we're ever gonna get is more carriages dressed to look like spaceships.

They can't do better so they do more. But they can't do more game stuff like travel through space in your space travel game because of the engine, so you get more cups and potatoes instead

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things


Arms_Akimbo posted:

Well yeah because that's all they can do. They've pushed this ancient engine as far as it can go in terms of functionality, so until they fork over the cash to build their thing on a modern engine, all we're ever gonna get is more carriages dressed to look like spaceships.

They can't do better so they do more. But they can't do more game stuff like travel through space in your space travel game because of the engine, so you get more cups and potatoes instead

Technically it is a new engine for starfield that hasn't been used prior. It's their first title to use creation engine 2.

Now how much of creation engine 2 is actually new is... up for guessing.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Edgar posted:

crap I think I spent one too many hours playing this nightmare..


That's a nice VLC rock on the right.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

The planets are literally flatter than that picture for what I've noticed. Or you're traveling 4000 loving meters to get to some pre-built little map. Honestly it's like we're living in a multiplayer Dev sandbox. And by that I mean literally a bunch of people just build things all over the place in a galaxy and then you get to explore their creations. I mean half the poo poo does look copy pasted and the other half just looks the same. Different names same stories everything it's like you think they would develop some loving quests that had meaningful things. It's like they were completely afraid of the audience that this game is meant for which is people that really want to dig deep into the law and story and have these like super intricate quests they have to do. They just turned everything surface level and made it so you can just fast travel from one place to another. At one point I was in the middle of combat and I was able to fast travel to another planet. And I know you're not supposed to be able to fast travel in combat but I was completely stunned. Literally enemies facing me and I was able to just fast travel across the loving Galaxy and avoid the confrontation entirely. Like it was just stunning to me I just sat there going I cannot loving believe that just worked.

Also yeah the puddle thing is crazy I mean at this point I feel like I just have to straight up cheat actually enjoy the loving game. Like someone was saying just set the value trade till like 50% and you'll actually be able to buy things. I don't know the whole scaling is insane, like 100,000 credits for a ship seems so cheap. I mean it doesn't even feel cool like why the hell didn't they just add a couple more decimal positions to this whole thing. Like do you know how sweet it would be to spend 10 million loving credits on a ship like a big rear end ship? That's what I expect you know everything's super overvalued or looks over value and it gives you this excitement from having millions of credits in your loving inventory. I mean I keep thinking about Eve online when I think about this thing. The Eve online understood that things were going to be scaled in the hundreds of millions and billions and even loving trillions in the Galaxy spanning civilizations.

That's what's crazy. The scale of things. Spaceships are trivial, combat distances are over like 100 m, the credits are just worthless and very very scarce, everything in this game feels so microscopic and it's supposed to be huge. It's like they didn't have enough time to actually make intricate areas and we're almost afraid that a player would get locked into exploring one area never actually going to space. They did this so heavily that they ended up achieving what they feared which is making it so players never really need to go into space. You know everything is like a set bubble of around 5,000 to 10,000 M and no larger than that. The acceleration is mediocre, I mean 200 m/s is as fast as you can get it just seems so depressing.

Like I feel like I'm having a loving crisis of conscious cuz I'm actually able to talk about this poo poo finally and I've just been sitting here trying to enjoy it, literally this game is so small. Like it's just so tiny you could fit the entire landscape of the game probably on one planet in game. and someone's probably going to say that I haven't gone far enough in it cuz I'm only 14 or 15 hours in but I should feel like this thing is huge and broad and I just loving don't. I felt like Skyrim was huge but even then fast travel kind of made it hard because you could essentially run in a straight line to all the major towns before doing a single quest and make the game really small. Honestly I wish they just wouldn't have fast travel at all if you weren't going from system to system. I mean you can't even fly from one planet to the other in the solar system like someone above thread said. I mean that's pretty loving depressing I kept thinking to myself man it would be cool to fly to the loving Moon from Earth and it would literally take 10 hours of real life time. Because of the stupid loving acceleration, I mean if these ships could go 2 to 10,000 Ms it would be really loving cool if you could plan trajectories to get yourself into orbit around these planets and moons that would be really loving cool. Even if you had the choice not to do it. They didn't give any kind of planning of spatial stuff like that, I mean there's no lines that will point me and tell me whether or not I'm actually going in the right direction. There's no gravitational calculations that would allow you to even land at the right time.

You can't land a ship you can't orbit a planet you can't do anything. Your ship is instantly teleported into space once you get off the ground I mean it would be nice if I even have the choice or had to land at some times.

I mean it would be nice just to have one pirate planet where the entire planet is just completely rife with loving anti-aircraft guns and space defense weapons and just all the cool poo poo and you ended up having to penetrate the defenses and land down and gently caress up some pirates or some poo poo. Like none of that even exists outside of scaled, vanilla, quests.

I should be able to hire up mercenaries and go out pirating. I should be able to do heavy ship assaults Under fire you know where like you can literally go from your ship to their ship without a single cutscene or loading screen. But none of that exists the enemies can't take your ship their week as gently caress they're not going to do anything and there's only usually three guys. The ships are just too small to have anything more I would really like to be able to fight like a 50 or 60 or 100 man poo poo outside of again a scripted quest.

I'd like to be able to stealthily bordership and then take it out from the inside. But that doesn't exist either you'll just get targeted by the ship and killed because your ship has to be big enough to survive a single shot. You can't have a little small tiny poo poo that is a penetrator / boarding crew raft. You can't have multiple ships with you you can't hire mercenaries you can't loving do anything.

Overdog
Jul 12, 2023

by CVG

(and can't post for 10 years!)

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

The planets are literally flatter than that picture for what I've noticed. Or you're traveling 4000 loving meters to get to some pre-built little map. Honestly it's like we're living in a multiplayer Dev sandbox. And by that I mean literally a bunch of people just build things all over the place in a galaxy and then you get to explore their creations. I mean half the poo poo does look copy pasted and the other half just looks the same. Different names same stories everything it's like you think they would develop some loving quests that had meaningful things. It's like they were completely afraid of the audience that this game is meant for which is people that really want to dig deep into the law and story and have these like super intricate quests they have to do. They just turned everything surface level and made it so you can just fast travel from one place to another. At one point I was in the middle of combat and I was able to fast travel to another planet. And I know you're not supposed to be able to fast travel in combat but I was completely stunned. Literally enemies facing me and I was able to just fast travel across the loving Galaxy and avoid the confrontation entirely. Like it was just stunning to me I just sat there going I cannot loving believe that just worked.

Also yeah the puddle thing is crazy I mean at this point I feel like I just have to straight up cheat actually enjoy the loving game. Like someone was saying just set the value trade till like 50% and you'll actually be able to buy things. I don't know the whole scaling is insane, like 100,000 credits for a ship seems so cheap. I mean it doesn't even feel cool like why the hell didn't they just add a couple more decimal positions to this whole thing. Like do you know how sweet it would be to spend 10 million loving credits on a ship like a big rear end ship? That's what I expect you know everything's super overvalued or looks over value and it gives you this excitement from having millions of credits in your loving inventory. I mean I keep thinking about Eve online when I think about this thing. The Eve online understood that things were going to be scaled in the hundreds of millions and billions and even loving trillions in the Galaxy spanning civilizations.

That's what's crazy. The scale of things. Spaceships are trivial, combat distances are over like 100 m, the credits are just worthless and very very scarce, everything in this game feels so microscopic and it's supposed to be huge. It's like they didn't have enough time to actually make intricate areas and we're almost afraid that a player would get locked into exploring one area never actually going to space. They did this so heavily that they ended up achieving what they feared which is making it so players never really need to go into space. You know everything is like a set bubble of around 5,000 to 10,000 M and no larger than that. The acceleration is mediocre, I mean 200 m/s is as fast as you can get it just seems so depressing.

Like I feel like I'm having a loving crisis of conscious cuz I'm actually able to talk about this poo poo finally and I've just been sitting here trying to enjoy it, literally this game is so small. Like it's just so tiny you could fit the entire landscape of the game probably on one planet in game. and someone's probably going to say that I haven't gone far enough in it cuz I'm only 14 or 15 hours in but I should feel like this thing is huge and broad and I just loving don't. I felt like Skyrim was huge but even then fast travel kind of made it hard because you could essentially run in a straight line to all the major towns before doing a single quest and make the game really small. Honestly I wish they just wouldn't have fast travel at all if you weren't going from system to system. I mean you can't even fly from one planet to the other in the solar system like someone above thread said. I mean that's pretty loving depressing I kept thinking to myself man it would be cool to fly to the loving Moon from Earth and it would literally take 10 hours of real life time. Because of the stupid loving acceleration, I mean if these ships could go 2 to 10,000 Ms it would be really loving cool if you could plan trajectories to get yourself into orbit around these planets and moons that would be really loving cool. Even if you had the choice not to do it. They didn't give any kind of planning of spatial stuff like that, I mean there's no lines that will point me and tell me whether or not I'm actually going in the right direction. There's no gravitational calculations that would allow you to even land at the right time.

You can't land a ship you can't orbit a planet you can't do anything. Your ship is instantly teleported into space once you get off the ground I mean it would be nice if I even have the choice or had to land at some times.

I mean it would be nice just to have one pirate planet where the entire planet is just completely rife with loving anti-aircraft guns and space defense weapons and just all the cool poo poo and you ended up having to penetrate the defenses and land down and gently caress up some pirates or some poo poo. Like none of that even exists outside of scaled, vanilla, quests.

I should be able to hire up mercenaries and go out pirating. I should be able to do heavy ship assaults Under fire you know where like you can literally go from your ship to their ship without a single cutscene or loading screen. But none of that exists the enemies can't take your ship their week as gently caress they're not going to do anything and there's only usually three guys. The ships are just too small to have anything more I would really like to be able to fight like a 50 or 60 or 100 man poo poo outside of again a scripted quest.

I'd like to be able to stealthily bordership and then take it out from the inside. But that doesn't exist either you'll just get targeted by the ship and killed because your ship has to be big enough to survive a single shot. You can't have a little small tiny poo poo that is a penetrator / boarding crew raft. You can't have multiple ships with you you can't hire mercenaries you can't loving do anything.

Sounds like some of the CYOAs I used to write on my TI-82 lol.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

The planets are literally flatter than that picture for what I've noticed. Or you're traveling 4000 loving meters to get to some pre-built little map. Honestly it's like we're living in a multiplayer Dev sandbox. And by that I mean literally a bunch of people just build things all over the place in a galaxy and then you get to explore their creations. I mean half the poo poo does look copy pasted and the other half just looks the same. Different names same stories everything it's like you think they would develop some loving quests that had meaningful things. It's like they were completely afraid of the audience that this game is meant for which is people that really want to dig deep into the law and story and have these like super intricate quests they have to do. They just turned everything surface level and made it so you can just fast travel from one place to another. At one point I was in the middle of combat and I was able to fast travel to another planet. And I know you're not supposed to be able to fast travel in combat but I was completely stunned. Literally enemies facing me and I was able to just fast travel across the loving Galaxy and avoid the confrontation entirely. Like it was just stunning to me I just sat there going I cannot loving believe that just worked.

Also yeah the puddle thing is crazy I mean at this point I feel like I just have to straight up cheat actually enjoy the loving game. Like someone was saying just set the value trade till like 50% and you'll actually be able to buy things. I don't know the whole scaling is insane, like 100,000 credits for a ship seems so cheap. I mean it doesn't even feel cool like why the hell didn't they just add a couple more decimal positions to this whole thing. Like do you know how sweet it would be to spend 10 million loving credits on a ship like a big rear end ship? That's what I expect you know everything's super overvalued or looks over value and it gives you this excitement from having millions of credits in your loving inventory. I mean I keep thinking about Eve online when I think about this thing. The Eve online understood that things were going to be scaled in the hundreds of millions and billions and even loving trillions in the Galaxy spanning civilizations.

That's what's crazy. The scale of things. Spaceships are trivial, combat distances are over like 100 m, the credits are just worthless and very very scarce, everything in this game feels so microscopic and it's supposed to be huge. It's like they didn't have enough time to actually make intricate areas and we're almost afraid that a player would get locked into exploring one area never actually going to space. They did this so heavily that they ended up achieving what they feared which is making it so players never really need to go into space. You know everything is like a set bubble of around 5,000 to 10,000 M and no larger than that. The acceleration is mediocre, I mean 200 m/s is as fast as you can get it just seems so depressing.

Like I feel like I'm having a loving crisis of conscious cuz I'm actually able to talk about this poo poo finally and I've just been sitting here trying to enjoy it, literally this game is so small. Like it's just so tiny you could fit the entire landscape of the game probably on one planet in game. and someone's probably going to say that I haven't gone far enough in it cuz I'm only 14 or 15 hours in but I should feel like this thing is huge and broad and I just loving don't. I felt like Skyrim was huge but even then fast travel kind of made it hard because you could essentially run in a straight line to all the major towns before doing a single quest and make the game really small. Honestly I wish they just wouldn't have fast travel at all if you weren't going from system to system. I mean you can't even fly from one planet to the other in the solar system like someone above thread said. I mean that's pretty loving depressing I kept thinking to myself man it would be cool to fly to the loving Moon from Earth and it would literally take 10 hours of real life time. Because of the stupid loving acceleration, I mean if these ships could go 2 to 10,000 Ms it would be really loving cool if you could plan trajectories to get yourself into orbit around these planets and moons that would be really loving cool. Even if you had the choice not to do it. They didn't give any kind of planning of spatial stuff like that, I mean there's no lines that will point me and tell me whether or not I'm actually going in the right direction. There's no gravitational calculations that would allow you to even land at the right time.

You can't land a ship you can't orbit a planet you can't do anything. Your ship is instantly teleported into space once you get off the ground I mean it would be nice if I even have the choice or had to land at some times.

I mean it would be nice just to have one pirate planet where the entire planet is just completely rife with loving anti-aircraft guns and space defense weapons and just all the cool poo poo and you ended up having to penetrate the defenses and land down and gently caress up some pirates or some poo poo. Like none of that even exists outside of scaled, vanilla, quests.

I should be able to hire up mercenaries and go out pirating. I should be able to do heavy ship assaults Under fire you know where like you can literally go from your ship to their ship without a single cutscene or loading screen. But none of that exists the enemies can't take your ship their week as gently caress they're not going to do anything and there's only usually three guys. The ships are just too small to have anything more I would really like to be able to fight like a 50 or 60 or 100 man poo poo outside of again a scripted quest.

I'd like to be able to stealthily bordership and then take it out from the inside. But that doesn't exist either you'll just get targeted by the ship and killed because your ship has to be big enough to survive a single shot. You can't have a little small tiny poo poo that is a penetrator / boarding crew raft. You can't have multiple ships with you you can't hire mercenaries you can't loving do anything.

:yossame:

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

starfield is meh but wcg having a mental breakdown about it is funny af

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
a man dips his fingers in fetid rear end sweat and smears a line of it on my forehead.

"STARFIELD" he murmurs

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
I have a lazy laser + ballistic gun + missile to blow up spacers. I loot their space remains.. sadly no sugar.. I really want Mike and Ikes or Skittles :(

Stealthgerbil
Dec 16, 2004


I dont get how an indie game like Empyrion can do the whole ground to spaceflight thing and yet Bethasda with their infinite money can't figure it out.

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Everybody's favorite Bethesda game is the first one they played because they keep getting worse

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

starfield is meh but wcg having a mental breakdown about it is funny af

I mean what else am I supposed to do on a friday. I just sit with my feet kicked up on my desk whine about starfield into my phone and watch the clock countdown.

It is funny because I've never actually finished a non fallout Bethesda game. Okay I finished fallout 3 and fallout 3 NV but that's it. Every other game I've just giving up a certain amount of hours in. I mean I played quite a bit of Skyrim but that was mostly for mods I've just never been able to bring myself to actually finish these games cuz eventually I sit here and go what the gently caress am I even playing this for. I'm just surprised that I got that way after like 14 hours in without actually seeing 90% of the game. I mean literally it's just too loving boring. It is just too goddamn boring.

I am looking forward to telltales expanse game

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009

I put 5 hours in. joined a corporation hoping for some cool missions, and got:
Go steal a security ID (Walk into back room unquestioned, lie to a guy)
go back later and plant a bomb (same guy did not question me, pushed use on space ship part, left unquestioned)
Weird narratively convoluted war-games in the corporate head office (linear dungeon)

so bad and lazy

All I wanted out of this game was exploration at least as good as Oblivion, going place to place and enjoying the vibe and little bits of storytelling.
That ain't here. Push button, teleport to place. No scale, everything tiny.

also lol this is the first Beth game I've seen where the vendors are static. That is they don't sleep or lock up, and night is meaningless to the gameplay.

SRQ fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Sep 16, 2023

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

So what is sda, and why are we told to be it or to decide if we like being the sda game?

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Why were people even trying this in the first place to be disappointed? It's a loving Todd Howard Bethesda game that looks like boring poo poo. They've been making lovely, stupid, badly written, shallow games for decades now. How loving dumb are you??

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009

Arms_Akimbo posted:

Everybody's favorite Bethesda game is the first one they played because they keep getting worse

Fortunately my first was Fallout 3 so I escaped this fate

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Arms_Akimbo posted:

Everybody's favorite Bethesda game is the first one they played because they keep getting worse

Terminator: Future Shock is kind of hard to top, honestly.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
Fallout 4 was dogshit and is easily the worst game I've played to completion.

The bad guys are android body snatchers with absolutely zero motivation. I even sided with them and the game never bothered to explain why they're doing what they're doing. It's just supermutant dungeon after raider dungeon after supermutant dungeon where the only story is emails between coworkers which are exactly as interesting as they would be in an actual office complex.

The only skill check in the game is asking for more caps three times from quest givers.

I loving loathe Fallout 4.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

I've never played fallout 4 or 76

I played ESO for a few minutes in beta.

Otherwise I hosed with skyrim for a bit but it becomes a yawn

I guess Bethesda games are meant to be liked so I always try them and end up naturally not playing them.

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MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

When I got power armor and mowed down a deathclaw first thing, I knew it was gonna be real lovely

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