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Stealthgerbil
Dec 16, 2004


I hope aliens are real and that they also do have genitals and anuses.

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Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Stealthgerbil posted:

I hope aliens are real and that they also do have genitals and anuses.

you get 2 out of 3 there

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
what if it's just the last 2

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

:shrug: that's not what I've read, from the LA Times on the bin Laden raid: https://www.latimes.com/world/la-xpm-2011-may-07-la-fi-stealth-chopper-20110507-story.html

“What we’re seeing here is a very different type of design than what we normally see in rotorcraft,” said Loren Thompson, defense policy analyst for the Lexington Institute in Arlington, Va. “It appears that the military went to great lengths to reduce the radar and acoustic signature of the helicopter.”

ya know what gently caress it. Bin Laden was killed by superheros who piloted an invisible helicopter that came from alpha centauri.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

ya know what gently caress it. Bin Laden was killed by superheros who piloted an invisible helicopter that came from alpha centauri.

they seem pretty earthbound to me!

Jeff Eldredge, a UCLA aerospace engineering professor and acoustics expert, said helicopter noise is extremely complex and requires many approaches to controlling it.

“The idea of a stealth helicopter is something of a misnomer,” he said. “It is very unlikely this is a helicopter you wouldn’t hear coming.”

But any reduction in noise could provide some tactical benefit.

The idea of quiet choppers is not a new one. During the Vietnam War, the U.S. Army and CIA developed what could be considered a stealth helicopter for the first time. Dubbed “the Quiet One,” it was developed by now-defunct Hughes Aircraft Co. in Playa Vista.

In the 1980s, the Pentagon worked on developing a classified stealth helicopter along with the F-117 Nighthawk stealth aircraft and the B-2 stealth bomber, said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a website for military policy research.

The Army also tried to develop a stealth chopper, dubbed Comanche. But the helicopter program was canceled in 2004 after it incurred huge cost overruns.

No one knows for sure who worked on the modifications on the special forces’ Black Hawks or how many of them exist, but at least one may have been destroyed.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
Part of the whole raison d'etre for the modern UFO conspiracy matrix is the AFOSI telling porkies to paranoid Ufologists to cover up for stealth/drone/laser pulse technology. Air Force contractor Paul Bennewitz was recording top secret tech over Kirtland AF Base and they set Richard Doty on him to misdirect him to the nonexistent UNDERGROUND ALIEN BASE in Dulce, NM so he wouldn't twig the Soviets to all the poo poo they were working on

Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school



Mumpy Puffinz posted:

they are stealth because they are hard to see on radar, not because they are quiet and invisible

maybealabia posted:

No, trump said they are invisible and he's the smartest person ever so it must be true

News at the time said they had noise reduction equipment and didn’t sound like they were coming right at you. https://web.archive.org/web/2011050...ory?id=13530693

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

they seem pretty earthbound to me!

Jeff Eldredge, a UCLA aerospace engineering professor and acoustics expert, said helicopter noise is extremely complex and requires many approaches to controlling it.

“The idea of a stealth helicopter is something of a misnomer,” he said. “It is very unlikely this is a helicopter you wouldn’t hear coming.”

But any reduction in noise could provide some tactical benefit.

The idea of quiet choppers is not a new one. During the Vietnam War, the U.S. Army and CIA developed what could be considered a stealth helicopter for the first time. Dubbed “the Quiet One,” it was developed by now-defunct Hughes Aircraft Co. in Playa Vista.

In the 1980s, the Pentagon worked on developing a classified stealth helicopter along with the F-117 Nighthawk stealth aircraft and the B-2 stealth bomber, said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a website for military policy research.

The Army also tried to develop a stealth chopper, dubbed Comanche. But the helicopter program was canceled in 2004 after it incurred huge cost overruns.

No one knows for sure who worked on the modifications on the special forces’ Black Hawks or how many of them exist, but at least one may have been destroyed.

what the gently caress do you want from me. I said you were wrong, you corrected me, I said you were right, you corrected me.
Is this what it's like to argue with me?

I would say I'm sorry, but


Eh

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

what the gently caress do you want from me. I said you were wrong, you corrected me, I said you were right, you corrected me.
Is this what it's like to argue with me?

I would say I'm sorry, but


Eh

dude we are just posting!

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
if I'm actually posting @ ronnie, I apologize

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Brain Curry posted:

News at the time said they had noise reduction equipment and didn’t sound like they were coming right at you. https://web.archive.org/web/2011050...ory?id=13530693

So Uncle Jimbo wasn't allowed to shoot them?

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

So Uncle Jimbo wasn't allowed to shoot them?

Actually Uncle Jimbo WAS allowed to shoot them, per this link: (kidding, kidding)

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

if I'm actually posting @ ronnie, I apologize

I ain't the real ronnie, sadly

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

I ain't the real ronnie, sadly

thank goodness for small blessings

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

Actually Uncle Jimbo WAS allowed to shoot them, per this link: (kidding, kidding)

gotcha covered friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaazFYTrQ_A

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

They're only aliens if they're from another galaxy, otherwise they're sparkling visitors.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
What aliens see inside your rectum

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

temple posted:

What aliens see inside your rectum



finally someone making sense in this thread

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

What a ride!

And we got all that from a video of a balloon.

Actual Satan
Mar 14, 2017

Keep on partying!

You'll NEVER regret it!

Trust ME!


not a bot
Jan 9, 2019
Hippies and alien believers are always so angry

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

SniperWoreConverse posted:

p sure some drugs still work if they're chirally flipped, but have different effects, so it's not as simple as a coin flip imo

Thalidomide is the most effective treatment for morning sickness ever develiped. Gets totally rid of all symptoms with no side effects.

Its enantiomer, however, causes flipper babies.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

500excf type r posted:

UFOs are real, aliens are real, we have bodies, we have materials, etc

And as we all know, anecdotes are even better then evidence!


Mumpy Puffinz posted:

most likely because it experimental military aircraft. If it does well, then they want to keep it secret, if it fails, well, they definitely want to keep it secret

If the spooks only get involved in the cases where it's a classified plane, that immediately tells everyone, "Hey, it's a classified plane" in huge letters of fire.

The only way they can operate is to rub themselves on everything.

Even the chorizo aliens

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Sep 17, 2023

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

500excf type r posted:

You underestimate the collective understanding of the celestial bodies observed by humanity for the last 60,000 years or so

The celestial spheres and epicycle type understanding or the dung beetle pushing the sun across the sky type understanding?

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Sep 17, 2023

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

there have been 3 to 5 different space travelling species, who have just what? come to see whats good here? Check out the beaches? Maybe get a cheesesteak?

SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
the sun is drawn across the sky by apollo in his chariot, everyone knows this

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


one of the best moves from the ufosters and the crackpots they beleive is that you'll see them drop like a huge list of professional credentials about how Gonzo Bingbong is a a career specialist in military intelligence and chief special advisor to the president for the last 37 years.
then you see them talk and they're the most obviously uncredible wacko stereotype you can imagine talking about how they know a guy who knows a guy who got sucked off by ET while the pope watched.

Its like when someone posts a grainy video of what's clearly an inflatable alien beachtoy poking out from behind a door and they go "37 US marine recon pilots from the department of credibility reported seeing this, do you really think they didn't rule out a novelty lilo?"

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

Incidentally, this is the current Gonzo Bingbong. Every day he subtly increases the size of his collar until someone remarks on it.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Communist Thoughts posted:

one of the best moves from the ufosters and the crackpots they beleive is that you'll see them drop like a huge list of professional credentials about how Gonzo Bingbong is a a career specialist in military intelligence and chief special advisor to the president for the last 37 years.
then you see them talk and they're the most obviously uncredible wacko stereotype you can imagine talking about how they know a guy who knows a guy who got sucked off by ET while the pope watched.

Its like when someone posts a grainy video of what's clearly an inflatable alien beachtoy poking out from behind a door and they go "37 US marine recon pilots from the department of credibility reported seeing this, do you really think they didn't rule out a novelty lilo?"

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

ya know what gently caress it. Bin Laden was killed by superheros who piloted an invisible helicopter that came from alpha centauri.

Do you want scientology? Because this is how you get scientology

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Stealthgerbil posted:

I hope aliens are real and that they also do have genitals and anuses.

Unless they are energy beings, they have to have some way of processing nutrients, and dealing with waste. So I think it's a Strong Yes.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

One of the major LARPS that r/UFO fell for hook line and sinker said that the "aliens" were manufactured beings generated by the underwater command center from a mix of terrestrial DNA and some novel insertions. They had a blind-ending gut, probably only ate some kind of premade nutrient slurry, and excreted anything toxic like urea through modified sweat glands.

No anus or reproductive equipment at all.

SonOfGhostDad
Nov 16, 2022
Some helicopters painted black ergo chupacabras are real

checkmate, cynics!

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Bug Squash posted:

One of the major LARPS that r/UFO fell for hook line and sinker said that the "aliens" were manufactured beings generated by the underwater command center from a mix of terrestrial DNA and some novel insertions. They had a blind-ending gut, probably only ate some kind of premade nutrient slurry, and excreted anything toxic like urea through modified sweat glands.

No anus or reproductive equipment at all.

I'll check this out with the boys back in the lab.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Bug Squash posted:

One of the major LARPS that r/UFO fell for hook line and sinker said that the "aliens" were manufactured beings generated by the underwater command center from a mix of terrestrial DNA and some novel insertions. They had a blind-ending gut, probably only ate some kind of premade nutrient slurry, and excreted anything toxic like urea through modified sweat glands.

No anus or reproductive equipment at all.

Wow, that's hosed up. Is a life without an anus even worth living?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Communist Thoughts posted:

one of the best moves from the ufosters and the crackpots they beleive is that you'll see them drop like a huge list of professional credentials about how Gonzo Bingbong is a a career specialist in military intelligence and chief special advisor to the president for the last 37 years.
then you see them talk and they're the most obviously uncredible wacko stereotype you can imagine talking about how they know a guy who knows a guy who got sucked off by ET while the pope watched.

Its like when someone posts a grainy video of what's clearly an inflatable alien beachtoy poking out from behind a door and they go "37 US marine recon pilots from the department of credibility reported seeing this, do you really think they didn't rule out a novelty lilo?"

But I was told Bingbong bleeds red, white and blue???!

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

A most trust worthy looking fellow...

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009

Bug Squash posted:

One of the major LARPS that r/UFO fell for hook line and sinker said that the "aliens" were manufactured beings generated by the underwater command center from a mix of terrestrial DNA and some novel insertions. They had a blind-ending gut, probably only ate some kind of premade nutrient slurry, and excreted anything toxic like urea through modified sweat glands.

No anus or reproductive equipment at all.

In the future, all human beings will be genetically engineered to poo poo and piss through their pores.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
lol man both threads are really insufferable tbqh

anyway

SniperWoreConverse posted:

sending a mission to an alien biome is also insanely risky to the aliens. What if there's a single rear end germ that makes it and fucks all their poo poo up!?

also chirality might be preferential somehow due to some abiotic process, or reverse molecules are more or less effective than the ones we got now, besides just operating different.

chirality makes for more stable dna, a racemic mixture of nucleic acids is less stable

dr_rat posted:

If we find life in the solar system that is non-DNA life than we'll know different types of life can evolve. If we find DNA life I would think it will just lead to the question, did it evolve independently or did it/we arrive there via pansperma.

Still would be an absolutely amazing and fascinating find.

Bug Squash posted:

For DNA based life, we have the advantage that the transcription code, that is which DNA letters lead to which amino acids, is in a lot of ways arbitrary. But it got "fixed" really early on to the point that all living things use the same system (with a couple of weirdo freaks that have later evolved slight changes). If anything on another planet has the same transcription code that's a near slam dunk we share a common ancestor.

i think if we find a microbe on venus or mars or something, there's a better than even chance there's a connecting link in some direction with earth. finding it on an outer system moon, though, imo has a better than even chance of being independent.

anyway iirc we've found all five nucleotides in asteroids now so if there's a big grey bugger out there imo it probably uses a similar coding

mediaphage fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Sep 18, 2023

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

500excf type r posted:

Not really? Unless you think people of the past were retarded (literally, as in the opposite of advanced) and couldn't tell the difference between a shooting star and something else.

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

they were ignorant. That sounds nasty but really isn't. They didn't have the 30,000 years or so of collective education we have.


The thing is, even with 30,000 years of collective education and all the scientific advantages we have over people of the past, many many many people these days are still unbelievably ignorant and dumb as bricks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

Emergency services get calls all the time about UFOs which turn out to be satellites or planes or even the moon. We're not saying that people back then were particularly stupid, we're saying that a very large percent of the population has always been this stupid.

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