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Pingui posted:As this is a slow news day, I have taken the liberty of posting this opinion piece in full, because I've read it 4 times and I am unsure if he is trying to make the point I am reading (italization not mine): quote:It may be decades before our attention is emancipated from the slavery of a necessary but unhealthy health vigilance. Personally I feel like all the insane risk calculation and hoop jumping, the lies about mask efficacy followed by the lies about vaccine efficacy, the scolding about vaccine banditing, the scolding about the wearing the wrong kind of mask (first any mask, then respirators that actually work, then masks that are either too effective or not effective enough), the normalization of mass death, the othering of the victims of the disease, and the sheer cognitive dissonance of the mass media discourse is the most if not only fatiguing part of this situation. Putting an N95 on has stopped being something I really think or care about other than in situations like long-haul travel where it's really hard to do it, and yet if I make the mistake of listening to a single minute of NPR coverage about COVID (on the rare occasions they still talk about it) I can feel the life being siphoned out of my body. e: where's that "wear n95 or better" gymnastics meme? The Oldest Man has issued a correction as of 22:26 on Sep 17, 2023 |
# ? Sep 17, 2023 22:23 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 17:41 |
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Pingui posted:lmao, this poo poo sucks. I “tutor” a professor in Taiwan (friend of my wife) for her tourism/hospitality industry classes. It’s a rich people uni that does all their stuff in English so I mostly help her with editing her PowerPoints/documents/papers from the common pitfalls of ESL writing but man is it always a wild read learning what her coursework and research is about. it’s just so flagrantly capitalist. “Revenge tourism” came up a ton, basically the idea that people who couldn’t spend for a year or two saved more money “during the pandemic” and were willing to be exploited as a “premium consumer” when things opened back up and they could blow their whole wad at once. also a lot of research into what people liked about the lower contact environments and what to keep even after Covid measures ended. Millennials like more apps, less people, etc, and it’s both fascinating and horrifying to read about the take home messages various hospitality industry titans took from Covid that all boils down to having to pay less staff while charging more.
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# ? Sep 17, 2023 22:30 |
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japan has a huge number of hotels that use kiosks for check in, no staff. lots more restaurants with ordering via tablet and even delivery of food via little robotic carts. things were moving in that direction, and some of those things already existed, but it's pervasive now
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# ? Sep 17, 2023 22:33 |
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SardonicTyrant posted:the joke was listening to my mom do the same to someone else. yikes
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# ? Sep 17, 2023 22:33 |
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Honestly, having my life upended by arthritis a decade+ ago and learning how to live a smaller life has given me both a higher tolerance to the effects of this pandemic on my social life and a seething contempt for the people going insane because they couldn't go to a restaurant for like a month. Giant goddamn babies the lot of them.
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# ? Sep 17, 2023 22:41 |
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I have covid. first time. literally can't smell poo poo. might eat an onion for lunch later
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# ? Sep 17, 2023 23:40 |
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PoundSand posted:plays out exactly how a pessimist would expect, It's like being a wizard except life sucks.
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# ? Sep 17, 2023 23:49 |
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goodnight mooned posted:I have covid. first time. literally can't smell poo poo. might eat an onion for lunch later Sorry to hear, get Paxlovid if you can.
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# ? Sep 17, 2023 23:58 |
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thuly posted:Finding Novavax info in my state is like pulling teeth, swear to God I might have to road trip to get the good juice. if the last round of novavax availability is any indication, looks like my best shot as a massachusettsian is to head to new hampshire (because of course)
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 00:07 |
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I'm assuming vaccines.gov is completely unreliable for locating Novavax? It claims every CVS and Walgreens near me has it but it's not an option while scheduling
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 00:38 |
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Woah anyone heard of this covid thing? Sounds crazy. Oh wait it's 2023 and this is what my hospital is sending out again for some reason, despite covid having been over for a year now? Strange.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 00:43 |
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Asproigerosis posted:
lmao
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 00:47 |
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On one hand they absolutely just reuploaded the same covid emergency standards healthstream they made back in 2020. On the other hand its exactly what the administration thinks about how covid works. I just clicked through real quick cause it's a bunch of wank off bullshit but I caught a glimpse of an n95 next to a brown paper bag and I'm sure if I had stopped to read it would have been talking about reusing the same n95 for months.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 00:50 |
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Asproigerosis posted:
lol what's the right answer
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 00:55 |
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fosborb posted:lol what's the right answer The 6 foot one
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 00:55 |
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PoundSand posted:I recall getting into several fights in 2020 with friends over the idea that the second Biden walks into office people will stop caring about Covid/kids in cages/literally every progressive issue he won’t do poo poo about and it’s crazy how fast that stuff got memory holed. like fortunately it wasn’t Twitter arguments so no one who knew me assumed I was a trump supporter for saying mainstream democrats only care about these issues as the opposition party but it’s so bizarre to me that this sort of discussion comes up, plays out exactly how a pessimist would expect, then upcoming election year the same people will step on the same rakes going to bat for the idea that either party cares about anything other than their rich friends and their insider trading portfolios. I wonder how this compares to Clinton in the 1990s. I wasn't around but my understanding is he ran as mildly center-left in 1992, and then the rightward turn was explained away as triangulating towards the Republicans out of necessity. This time around it feels more like there's much more explicit memory-holing and in a year or two Biden will have always been a center-right figure, will have been elected in 2020 as a center-right figure, and all the articles about how he is the most progressive president since FDR will have been taken offline
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:00 |
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jisforjosh posted:I'm assuming vaccines.gov is completely unreliable for locating Novavax? It claims every CVS and Walgreens near me has it but it's not an option while scheduling It's not available anywhere yet right?
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:01 |
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icantfindaname posted:I wonder how this compares to Clinton in the 1990s. I wasn't around but my understanding is he ran as mildly center-left in 1992, and then the rightward turn was explained away as triangulating towards the Republicans out of necessity. This time around it feels more like there's much more explicit memory-holing and in a year or two Biden will have always been a center-right figure, will have been elected in 2020 as a center-right figure, and all the articles about how he is the most progressive president since FDR will have been taken offline Why bother? If you think the audience wants him to be center right, you can just say that, and if someone says that's bad you can hit them with the Well Actually list of legacy-defining progressive memos or whatever. The point is just to say whatever sounds good and it doesn't matter that nobody falls for it, it's just about getting the brand out there
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:23 |
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Baddog posted:Yah, one of my kids friends plays hockey seriously, and caught it repeatedly in those first 2 years, apparently from the rink. It is kinda weird, because a huge ventilated space, right. it’s not that the virus is more stable, it’s that having a cold nose slows down your first responder cells that normally circulate around your nose, looking for invaders. Ironically enough even a cloth mask is enough to keep your nose warm enough to help ameliorate this effect. quote:The closer quarters of wintertime living do, in fact, contribute to an increase in viral transmission. However, that doesn’t explain the initial wave of illness that kicks off the start of the flu season each year. New research suggests the cause may be found within the human nose -- specifically, that colder temperatures have an adverse effect on the efficacy of the immune response that takes place inside of the nose.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:25 |
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jisforjosh posted:I'm assuming vaccines.gov is completely unreliable for locating Novavax? It claims every CVS and Walgreens near me has it but it's not an option while scheduling icantfindaname posted:It's not available anywhere yet right? The updated Novavax has not been approved yet, there is an FDA (potential approval) meeting the 22nd.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:27 |
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Sometimes enjoying yourself means not wearing a mask
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:29 |
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BusError posted:I'm just about through my bottle of Enovid and I'd like to replace it with some iota carrageenan spray instead of dropping another jillion dollars on something that by all accounts works less well. US goons who have purchased some, where'd you get it? I've pretty skeptical of getting anything that really needs to be the genuine article from Amazon, but that's all I've found via googling... Yeah you can buy it from Amazon but I was leery given what I'd read in reviews about people getting broken bottles or obviously used bottles etc. You have two options, basically.
Just for funsies, some links to safety studies on intranasal application of products containing iota-carrageenan and efficacy of intranasal treatments for covid-19 including for Enovid, Taffix, and iota-carrageenan-containing nasal sprays. and safety of application of iota-carrageenan on oral tissues. Money quote: quote:Overall, neither published data nor results from studies presented herein provide any evidence for local intolerance or toxicity, when 0.12% iota-carrageenan is applied intranasally / topically or by inhalation supporting the beneficial safety profile described for iota-carrageenan. There were no nonclinical findings that would preclude the safe administration of 0.12% iota-carrageenan to humans for treatment of respiratory viral infections. Finally, for the hippies screaming about the dangers of food-grade carrageenan, no, you're confusing different types of carrageenan, shut up.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:30 |
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I thought they buffed the area of effect in a major release over a year ago
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:36 |
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-66818046 posted:Covid: Over-65s called for jabs as hospital cases rise Fun fact, COVID hospitalizations in England ("Patients admitted to hospital (weekly)") are 4.5% lower than same time last year. Tbf, they are 39.6% lower than same time in 2021, so that should take more than a week to catch up to at current pace. Source: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:48 |
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Poppers posted:Sometimes enjoying yourself means not wearing a mask
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:50 |
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corona familiar posted:I thought they buffed the area of effect in a major release over a year ago It was inherent at launch, if you check the patch notes it was just an error in the tool tips.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:51 |
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Maybe instead of being dismissive you should consider why so many people enjoy doing things without masks. Perhaps there is a reason…? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:52 |
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c'est la vie
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:53 |
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Computer Serf posted:does the Carrageenan goop accumulate in the lungs or does it drip into the gastrointestinal tubes? That website is full of poo poo, there's not a single scientifically-trained person on their entire board, and there's a reason most of the studies you can find decrying the safety of iota-carrageenan are so old. To wit: quote:Carrageenan (CGN) is a common food additive that has been widely used for decades as a gelling, thickening and stabilizing agent. Carrageenan has been proven safe for human consumption; however, there has been significant confusion in the literature between CGN and the products of intentional acid-hydrolysis of CGN, which are degraded CGN (d-CGN) and poligeenan (PGN). In part, this confusion was due to the nomenclature used in early studies on CGN, where poligeenan was referred to as "degraded carrageenan" (d-CGN) and "degraded carrageenan" was simply referred to as carrageenan. Although this nomenclature has been corrected, confusion still exists resulting in misinterpretation of data and the subsequent dissemination of incorrect information regarding the safe dietary use of CGN. The lack of understanding of the molecular weight distribution of CGN has further exacerbated the issue. The significant differences in chemistry, manufacture, and protein reactivity of CGN versus d-CGN and PGN are reviewed, in addition to the in vivo toxicological profiles of CGN, d-CGN, and PGN. As CGN cannot be hydrolyzed to PGN in vivo, concerns over the use of CGN as a food additive are unfounded, particularly since current studies support the lack of oncogenic and tumorigenic activity of CGN in humans.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:54 |
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Poppers posted:Maybe instead of being dismissive you should consider why so many people enjoy doing things without masks. Perhaps there is a reason…? lmao
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:57 |
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Oracle posted:Order from a supplier in Canada that ships to the US. This company was recommended on Reddit's zero-covid community (looks like they built in the cost of shipping into the price they charge, which is currently 20 bucks. Pre-covid prices for a bottle of this was 12.99CA, for an example). This is a bog-standard online checkout page and seems totally legit, though there is no option for expedited shipping. Ah nice, wound up buying from that site earlier today after scrounging around for any other sources and coming up dry. I thought they looked about as legit as I could hope for, so glad to hear they appeared that way to your eyes, too. Will update here if I got scammed!
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 01:59 |
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speng31b posted:lmao
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 02:01 |
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BusError posted:Ah nice, wound up buying from that site earlier today after scrounging around for any other sources and coming up dry. I thought they looked about as legit as I could hope for, so glad to hear they appeared that way to your eyes, too. Will update here if I got scammed! I bought my first batch from a much sketchier 'hey give us an e-check or call us on the phone with your cc#' site and managed to not get scammed (it was just a pharmacy in BC that had no idea what they were doing but people kept asking to ship international so welp) this looks one hell of a lot better lol
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 02:05 |
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Asproigerosis posted:I caught a glimpse of an n95 next to a brown paper bag and I'm sure if I had stopped to read it would have been talking about reusing the same n95 for months. Okay at the risk of sounding really dumb but are you not supposed to do that? I mean I've been slowly going through a box of N95s since last year just by reusing as much as possible and only replacing if they get soggy or the bands snap, but I work in food service, not in health care.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 02:06 |
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UnknownMercenary posted:Okay at the risk of sounding really dumb but are you not supposed to do that? I mean I've been slowly going through a box of N95s since last year just by reusing as much as possible and only replacing if they get soggy or the bands snap, but I work in food service, not in health care. Yeah it's fine, but it should absolutely not be official hospital policy anymore.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 02:10 |
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Pingui posted:The updated Novavax has not been approved yet, there is an FDA (potential approval) meeting the 22nd. I can’t believe a thread title would lie to me
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 02:11 |
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RandolphCarter posted:I can’t believe a thread title would lie to me It isn't lying, Pfizer and Moderna are out. Edit: Okay, the "available" might be stretching the truth, considering the clusterfuck of a rollout :P Pingui has issued a correction as of 02:22 on Sep 18, 2023 |
# ? Sep 18, 2023 02:12 |
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My cousin has gone all anti-vax on me. Thought he was a pretty smart guy, but now he's sending me Pierre Kory links. Pierre is pretty smart, he's blaming allllll the long covid symptoms on the vaccine. Even the brain fog. These symptoms can pop up months and months after you get the shot! Sometimes they won't show up until after you are infected with covid, lol. "Or a close exposure to a high-spike protein producing, (generally recently vaccinated) individual". I guess this is where the shedding spikes nonsense comes from. I don't even know what to respond. I guess just "what the gently caress, don't be a dumbass, let your immunocompromised mom get the new vaccine".
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 02:17 |
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So far none of the awesome non-chain pharmacies me or my parents got shots at in the past are getting it. Too expensive and too much hassle dealing with insurance for it. Sweet! Looking forward to having to drag my corpse into a crowded CVS to get coughed on by a dozen sick kids in order to get a vaccine.
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# ? Sep 18, 2023 02:18 |
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Baddog posted:My cousin has gone all anti-vax on me. Thought he was a pretty smart guy, but now he's sending me Pierre Kory links. Sorry your cousin sucks It is one of those things where the governmental oversell of the vaccines and downplaying of COVID really did a number on a lot of people. Trying to desperately mash experienced reality together with that particular brand of bullshit, made the alternative explanations much more intuitively correct. Basically that gymnastics cartoon, where people like Pierre Kory are the top cartoon, while the CDC are still doing the bottom one. Edit, this one: Pingui has issued a correction as of 02:40 on Sep 18, 2023 |
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