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sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

Rescue Toaster posted:


Looking forward to having to drag my corpse into a crowded CVS to get coughed on by a dozen sick kids in order to get a vaccine.

kids will barely get the shot. boosters are like single digit% for that cohort.

by the time you get to CVS aint nobody going to be near the shot place other than unmasked pharmacy employees.

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Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006


2023 COVID Death Toll: 53,324


Bed Usage hit 75% for the first time in a few months.


Overall Bed Utilization:
90%+ of Hospital Beds are full in SC/RI
80% + in 7 other states. (MD, NC, MO, MA, MN, WA, NH)

COVID Bed Utilization
18% in Maryland
8% in NC
7% In LA

COVID ICU Bed Utilization
21% in AZ
14% in MD
9% in OR
8% in NC
*Not reported in NM, MA, And WV

PEDIATRIC BED UTILIZATION

126% in Idaho
83% In TX/RI
75% in MO/CT

PEDIATRIC ICU UTILIZATION
107% in MD
80%+ in ID, Ar, RI ,PA, MA, MO
*None reported in WY or VT

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

https://www.cornucopia.org/researcher-bias-carrageenan-controversy/ posted:

For example, industry consultant TOXpertise, LLC has painted research pointing to the potential health risks of this controversial food additive as faulty science. However, the company’s analyses were funded by FMC Corporation, which has “over 60 years of experience in the development and production of carrageenan products…”

Oracle posted:

Money quote:

Finally, for the hippies screaming about the dangers of food-grade carrageenan, no, you're confusing different types of carrageenan, shut up.
:shuckyes:
computer enhance

Authors
James M. McKim IONTOX, LLC, Kalamazoo, MI, USA;
Correspondence
jmckim@iontox.com
Jamin A. Willoughby Sr. IONTOX, LLC, Kalamazoo, MI, USA;
Myra L. Weiner TOXpertise, LLC, Princeton, NJ, USA;
William R. Blakemore Celtic Colloids Inc., Topsham, ME, USA


The authors would like to acknowledge Eunice Cuirle, Manager of Global Regulatory Affairs FMC Health and Nutrition business unit of FMC Corporation, for her valuable comments and support.
Disclosure
Financial support for the preparation of this review was provided by FMC Corporation.

Funding
FMC Corporation.

:colbert:
lmaoooo Big Carrageenan at it again!! :owned:

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

icantfindaname posted:

I wonder how this compares to Clinton in the 1990s. I wasn't around but my understanding is he ran as mildly center-left in 1992, and then the rightward turn was explained away as triangulating towards the Republicans out of necessity. This time around it feels more like there's much more explicit memory-holing and in a year or two Biden will have always been a center-right figure, will have been elected in 2020 as a center-right figure, and all the articles about how he is the most progressive president since FDR will have been taken offline

i think the right turn started when the GOP took control of (both?) houses in 1994 (gingrich was the speaker)

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord
on one side there’s a dozen universities and medical journals like the lancet with research suggesting carrageenan is bad and on the other side we have a carrageenan manufacture funding research saying no carrageenan is actually good shut up

perhaps the truth exists somewhere in the middle of these two opposing perspectives

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


actionjackson posted:

i think the right turn started when the GOP took control of (both?) houses in 1994 (gingrich was the speaker)

correct, that's why everyone mocks "third way" and "triangulation" poo poo, it was basically a way to capitulate to the worst people on earth in order to keep power

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

UnknownMercenary posted:

Okay at the risk of sounding really dumb but are you not supposed to do that? I mean I've been slowly going through a box of N95s since last year just by reusing as much as possible and only replacing if they get soggy or the bands snap, but I work in food service, not in health care.

They are a single use item, as in you throw it out after the first time you put it on. Thankfully the engineering is robust enough that it can continue to provide airborne protection until the material wears out enough that a seal can't be maintained, but the whole store for reuse thing came about solely because trump and the cdc/fda/etc did absolutely nothing about the reports coming out of China at the end of 2019. No spin up of production or stockpiling, why bother it's just a fomite China virus no big deal. And then it came to America and.... they did nothing. Refused to release the millions in the national stockpiles because what if an even worse pandemic struck at any minute and we needed them?! This is why you had hospital staff wearing trash bags in NYC and dying. It's also where trumps invoke P came from, everyone was begging him to invoke the defensive production act to force 3M etc to pump out PPE and sell them at cost to the government for distribution but he refused. So you had governors flying secret private jets to South Korea to get PPE since the US government was doing nothing to help. Actually that's not true, the US government response was kushner being the front man and having the DHS and FEMA seize all the PPE shipments so he could give them to his friends who would then resell to the states at predatory prices which is why governors were doing secret squirrel poo poo with private planes.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



I was trying to find any info on whether particular brands of mouthwash are usefully antiviral and found this article from July 2022, but scrolling to the end:

quote:

The CDC (Trusted Source) recommends that people who are not fully vaccinated wear cloth face masks in indoor public settings. If case numbers are high in the area, it may be best to wear a mask outdoors, as well. This will help slow the spread of the virus from people who do not know that they have contracted it, including those who are asymptomatic. Note: It is critical that surgical masks and N95 respirators are reserved for healthcare workers.

lol, lmao. (I don't remember when the CDC stopped telling people not to wear N95s but I'm pretty sure it was before the free N95 program started in Jan 2022)

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

yeah on a personal scale when you have to buy your own, reusing your n95s to reduce costs isn't the worst thing in the world, especially if you're just wearing them for fairly short stretches and they're not getting absolutely drenched with sweat or anything, but for a hospital to be teaching n95 reuse in 2023 is insane, any remotely sensible hospital system should be purchasing them by the thousands and treating them as one time use the way they're intended to be

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Pillowpants posted:

COVID Bed Utilization
18% in Maryland
8% in NC
7% In LA

COVID ICU Bed Utilization
21% in AZ
14% in MD
9% in OR
8% in NC
*Not reported in NM, MA, And WV
Thank you, PP! Does this mean that X% of beds in general/the ICU are occupied my covid patients in those states?

Also, lol that MA is in the same cohort as WV ("not reporting")

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Should i try to get the new covid booster shot if i'm only a couple of weeks out of already having gotten Covid? Or am i now ~naturally immune~ for a good while?

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

The Shame Boy posted:

Should i try to get the new covid booster shot if i'm only a couple of weeks out of already having gotten Covid? Or am i now ~naturally immune~ for a good while?

You should wait about 8 weeks, then get it.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

The Shame Boy posted:

Should i try to get the new covid booster shot if i'm only a couple of weeks out of already having gotten Covid? Or am i now ~naturally immune~ for a good while?

you should wait. the vax spike won't provoke your immune system much better than it already being hyper vigilant right now. 2months.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

eXXon posted:

I was trying to find any info on whether particular brands of mouthwash are usefully antiviral and found this article from July 2022, but scrolling to the end:

lol, lmao. (I don't remember when the CDC stopped telling people not to wear N95s but I'm pretty sure it was before the free N95 program started in Jan 2022)

you're probed overnight but how are you feeling? anything worse than your v mild symptoms earlier? hoping it'll stay that way!

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
Weird, lots of covid patients in the ED. Anyone know what that's about?

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

I didn't realize erectile dysfunction was also a COVID symptom. Concerning.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost
It’s a vascular disease, also COVID is stored in the balls

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

Bastard Tetris posted:

COVID is stored in the balls

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
The most egregious of crimes by the biden administration, I have to shave again. 8 months of growth and I'm back to this bullshit.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost
I hate to admit it but I honestly look better with a 2mm beard, I start failing fit tests around 6

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Computer Serf posted:

on one side there’s a dozen universities and medical journals like the lancet with research suggesting carrageenan is bad and on the other side we have a carrageenan manufacture funding research saying no carrageenan is actually good shut up

perhaps the truth exists somewhere in the middle of these two opposing perspectives

So instead of just immediately assuming bad faith on the part of industry, I actually looked at the various studies being cited in the various calls for alarm (a dangerous pastime, I know).

Turns out that yes, actually, they were indeed conflating different types of carrageenan in their retrospectives/reviews of the literature, and in fact (sometimes) listed the variety of carrageenan used in the lists of studies! Not only did they include studies on degraded (a known inflammatory that is not approved for use in food) with native with kappa and iota (when they bothered to differentiate at all) and studies where they were injecting it, they also included studies of other emulsifiers like polysorbate-80! The worst person you know just made a good point.

That’s… a bit sloppy. And in fact the letter writers for at least one call for alarm admitted as much and agreed more research would be necessary to determine which or which combinations of culprits in ‘the Western diet’ were playing which roles in what bad outcome (ulcerative colitis, IBD, diabetes, inflammation in general cancer etc). Hell the evil industry shills even admitted that adulteration of native with degraded would be a problem and it should be tested for and regulated more if that’s the case.

All of that is rather beside the point, as for the purposes of our interest (intranasal sprays containing iota carrageenan) the amount of the substance of concern being ingested is so crazy small (we’re literally talking about thousandths of a gram per 20ml bottle) you’d have to pretty much chug multiple bottles a week to start to hope approaching amounts of concern. At 20 bucks a pop I don’t think that’s happening even if you’d want to. Uranium it’s not.

You’re better off eliminating all processed meats (real and fake) and vegan dairy replacement products if you’re that worried about it (and which is already known to be better for you).

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

hailthefish posted:

yeah on a personal scale when you have to buy your own, reusing your n95s to reduce costs isn't the worst thing in the world, especially if you're just wearing them for fairly short stretches and they're not getting absolutely drenched with sweat or anything, but for a hospital to be teaching n95 reuse in 2023 is insane, any remotely sensible hospital system should be purchasing them by the thousands and treating them as one time use the way they're intended to be

Honestly, they need to use half or full mask respirators with P100 filters because the amount of waste generated by your average hospital NOT during a pandemic is loving inconceivable. It’s kind of nuts how disposable became the answer to every contamination issue short of bedsheets and surgical tools. I’m sure if it were mandated 3M could come up with some friendly-looking design instead of their usual audience of cops/armed forces/construction/first responders.

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

Computer Serf posted:

The authors would like to acknowledge Eunice Cuirle, Manager of Global Regulatory Affairs FMC Health and Nutrition business unit of FMC Corporation, for her valuable comments and support.
Disclosure
Financial support for the preparation of this review was provided by FMC Corporation.

Funding
FMC Corporation.

:colbert:
lmaoooo Big Carrageenan at it again!! :owned:

wait what in tar nation… FMC corporate history starts with Bean Spray Pumps in 1883 and then after buying a canning company they become Food Machinery Corporation, FMC which then
FMC was awarded a contract to design and build amphibious tracked landing vehicles for the United States Department of War in 1941. FMC ranked 64th among United States corporations in the value of World War II military production contracts.
naturally Food Machinery Corporation then developed a hydrofoil, M59, M75, M113, T117 and when their vehicles were found to have insufficient armor in Vietnam they manufactured "Makeshift shields formed from metal salvaged from the hulls of sunken ships were soon fitted to the carriers, affording better protection. However, it was found that this material could be penetrated by small arms fire, so subsequent shields were constructed from scrapped armored vehicles."
FMC then developed the MICV-65, XM765, and M2 Bradley, of which the became the centerpiece of a scandal between a testing range and an army corneal refusing to test survivability of the Bradley under normal operating conditions

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Fighting_Vehicle#Col._James_Burton_and_the_joint_live_fire_testing_program posted:

When testing the Bradley, disagreements occurred between Burton and the Aberdeen Proving Ground’s Ballistic Research Laboratory (BRL), which preferred smaller, more controlled, “building block” tests.[33] They claimed such limited, and according to Burton, completely unrealistic, testing would improve the databases used to model vehicle survivability, as opposed to full tests with random shots that would provide a far more accurate picture of its performance under real battlefield conditions, but produce less useful statistical data
of which inspired the infamous Pentagon Wars scandal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA
:911:

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

Oracle posted:

So instead of just immediately assuming bad faith on the part of industry, I actually looked at the various studies being cited in the various calls for alarm (a dangerous pastime, I know).

Turns out that yes, actually, they were indeed conflating different types of carrageenan in their retrospectives/reviews of the literature, and in fact (sometimes) listed the variety of carrageenan used in the lists of studies! Not only did they include studies on degraded (a known inflammatory that is not approved for use in food) with native with kappa and iota (when they bothered to differentiate at all) and studies where they were injecting it, they also included studies of other emulsifiers like polysorbate-80! The worst person you know just made a good point.

That’s… a bit sloppy. And in fact the letter writers for at least one call for alarm admitted as much and agreed more research would be necessary to determine which or which combinations of culprits in ‘the Western diet’ were playing which roles in what bad outcome (ulcerative colitis, IBD, diabetes, inflammation in general cancer etc). Hell the evil industry shills even admitted that adulteration of native with degraded would be a problem and it should be tested for and regulated more if that’s the case.

All of that is rather beside the point, as for the purposes of our interest (intranasal sprays containing iota carrageenan) the amount of the substance of concern being ingested is so crazy small (we’re literally talking about thousandths of a gram per 20ml bottle) you’d have to pretty much chug multiple bottles a week to start to hope approaching amounts of concern. At 20 bucks a pop I don’t think that’s happening even if you’d want to. Uranium it’s not.

You’re better off eliminating all processed meats (real and fake) and vegan dairy replacement products if you’re that worried about it (and which is already known to be better for you).

ur big carrageenan psyops don’t work on me :nono:

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Computer Serf posted:

of which inspired the infamous Pentagon Wars scandal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA
:911:

James Burton is a crank, regardless of how dumb the US procurement apparatus is.

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

The Oldest Man posted:

James Burton is a crank, regardless of how dumb the US procurement apparatus is.
In his Pentagon roles, Burton became part of a small cadre of military officers and civilians in government service who started to internally challenge the way in which weapons systems were procured, and in the early 1980’s began to tell ‘anyone who would listen about weapons systems that would cost billions of dollars more than advertised, or perform far less effectively than was claimed, or both

what a crank no way this ever happens

puncturewound78
Apr 18, 2023

eXXon posted:

Thank you for posting this update from Redhead porn: No PFV just Wet messes, Squirting
Full Orgasm Videos, Naked Gardening, Partner Play, Cosplays ☺ Snapchat Included

I hope her sister recovers.

just cause you have a problem with sex workers doesn't mean the rest of us do

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

rodbeard posted:

I didn't realize erectile dysfunction was also a COVID symptom. Concerning.

That has been a known thing for years.
"“Mask up to keep it up”: Preliminary evidence of the association between erectile dysfunction and COVID‐19"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8250520/ posted:

Andrology. 2021 Jul; 9(4): 1053–1059.

Abstract
Background
Erectile dysfunction (ED), as the hallmark of endothelial dysfunction, could be a short‐ or long‐term complication of COVID‐19. Additionally, being ED a clinical marker and predictor of non‐communicable chronic diseases, particularly cardiovascular, subjects with ED could potentially have a higher risk of contracting COVID‐19.

Objectives
To investigate the prevalence of ED among subjects with a reported diagnosis of COVID‐19 and to measure the association of COVID‐19 and ED.

Materials and methods
We reviewed data from the Sex@COVID online survey (performed between April 7 and May 4, 2020, in Italy) to retrieve a sample of Italian male sexually active subjects with reported SARS‐CoV‐2 infection. A matching sample of COVID‐19‐negative male sexually active subjects was also retrieved using propensity score matching in a 3:1 ratio. The survey used different standardized psychometric tools to measure effects of lockdown and social distancing on the intrapsychic, relational, and sexual health of Italian subjects.

Results
One hundred subjects were included in the analysis (25 COVID‐positive; 75 COVID‐negative). The prevalence of ED, measured with the Sexual Health Inventory for Men, was significantly higher in the COVID+ group (28% vs. 9.33%; p = 0.027). Logistic regression models confirmed a significant effect of COVID‐19 on the development of ED, independently of other variables affecting erectile function, such as psychological status, age, and BMI [OR 5.66, 95% CI: 1.50–24.01]. Likewise, subjects with ED were more likely to have COVID‐19, once corrected for age and BMI [OR 5.27, 95% CI: 1.49–20.09].

Discussion and conclusion
On top of well‐described pathophysiological mechanisms, there is preliminary evidence in a real‐life population of ED as a risk factor of developing COVID‐19 and possibly occurring as a consequence of COVID‐19. Universal vaccination against the COVID‐19 and the personal protective equipment could possibly have the added benefit of preventing sexual dysfunctions.

A bunch of the newer studies tend to look for psychological explanations, which is a bit of a cart and horse issue. Case in point (note the many biomarkers):
"Prevalence and risk factors of erectile dysfunction in COVID-19 patients: a systematic review and meta-analysis"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9616422/ posted:

J Endocrinol Invest. 2023; 46(4): 795–804.

Abstract
Purpose
Studies have found that erectile dysfunction (ED) may be a short-term or long-term complication in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) patients, but no relevant studies have completed a pooled analysis of this claim. The purpose of the review was to comprehensively search the relevant literature, summarize the prevalence of ED in COVID-19 patients, assess risk factors for its development, and explore the effect of the COVID-19 infection on erectile function.

Methods
Medline, Embase, and the Cochrane Library was performed from database inception until April 14, 2022. Heterogeneity was analyzed by χ2 tests and I2 was used as a quantitative test of heterogeneity. Subgroup analyses, meta-regression, and sensitivity analyses were used to analyze sources of heterogeneity.

Results
Our review included 8 studies, 4 of which functioned as a control group. There were 250,606 COVID-19 patients (mean age: 31–47.1 years, sample size: 23–246,990). The control group consisted of 10,844,200 individuals (mean age: 32.76–42.4 years, sample size 75–10,836,663). The prevalence of ED was 33% (95% CI 18–47%, I2 = 99.48%) in COVID-19 patients. The prevalence of ED based on the international coding of diseases (ICD-10) was 9% (95% CI 2–19%), which was significantly lower than the prevalence of ED diagnosed based on the International Index of Erectile Function (IIEF-5) (46%, 95% CI 22–71%, I2 = 96.72%). The pooling prevalence of ED was 50% (95% CI 34–67%, I2 = 81.54%) for articles published in 2021, significantly higher than that for articles published in 2022 (17%, 95% CI 7–30%, I2 = 99.55%). The relative risk of developing ED was 2.64 times in COVID-19 patients higher than in non-COVID-19 patients (RR: 2.64, 95% CI 1.01–6.88). The GRADE-pro score showed that the mean incidence of ED events in COVID-19 patients was 1,333/50,606 (2.6%) compared with 52,937/844,200 (0.4%) in controls; the absolute impact of COVID-19 on ED was 656/100,000 (ranging from 4/100,000 to 2352/100,000). Anxiety (OR: 1.13, 95% CI 1.03–1.26, I2 = 0.0%) in COVID-19 patients was a risk factor for ED.

Conclusion
COVID-19 patients have a high risk and prevalence of ED, mainly driven by anxiety. Attention should be paid to patient’s erectile functioning when treating COVID-19.
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Discussion
(..)
We found that anxiety in patients with COVID-19 was a risk factor for ED, whereas age, BMI, and depression were not risk factors for ED. A large number of existing studies have found the negative impact of psychological factors on ED [29, 35–38]. However, studies have found that sexual activity has a protective effect against the quarantine-related plague of anxiety and mood disorders during the COVID-19 outbreak [39]. Given the bidirectional interaction between sexual activity and mental health [39, 40]. Excluding possible effects of anxiety and depression, Sansone et al. confirmed that the increased prevalence of ED was not only a result of the psychological burden, but was also clearly attributable to other truly organic factors, of which endothelial dysfunction was the most likely culprit. Moreover, the study was also highly suggestive of the role of infection in ED development and the possible clinical relevance of COVID-19 as an additional risk factor for ED development [33]. Additionally, due to the limited number of included studies, some studies which did determine statistically significant risk factors could not be meta-analyzed. Hu et al. [29] found that the Global Severity Index was the only independent risk factor for ED in newly diagnosed COVID‐19 patients (OR: 8.697, P = 0.015), suggesting an important role of ED on disease at the time of the first diagnosis. Saad et al. [32] showed that smoking, moderate COVID-19, baseline IIEF-5 scores, and severe COVID-19 in patients with COVID-19 were independent risk factors for ED. A logistic regression, adjusted for age and BMI (Sansone et al.), showed that COVID-19 infection [odds ratio: 5.27 (95% CI 1.49–20.09) was an independent risk factor for ED and that ED may be a short- and a long-term risk factor for complications in COVID-19 [33]. The possible mechanisms of ED caused by COVID-19 in the current study are as follows: (1) Endothelial dysfunction [41]: the nitric oxide synthase’s expression levels in the cavernous endothelium and the average level of endothelial progenitor cells in patients with COVID-19 were decreased [17]. (2) Direct testicular injury: novel coronaviruses have been found in COVID-19 patients semen and testes in acute and convalescent periods [42]. Autopsy reports have revealed that patients’ testes have edema, mild lymphocytic infiltration, marked leukopenia, and seminiferous tubule damage [43]. (3) Hypogonadism [41]: a large study found that COVID‐19 was related with decreased testosterone, with secondary hypogonadism in 85% of patients [44]. (4) Inflammatory cytokines: IL-1β, IL-6, and TNF-α were associated to the clinical progression of sexual dysfunction [44, 45]. In COVID-19 patients, IL-6 could be used as a marker for ED, and when it’s cut-off point was 14.2 ng/ml, the sensitivity for detecting ED risk was 0.78 and the specificity was 0.72 [12]. (5) Psychological dysfunction [41, 46]. (6) Impaired pulmonary hemodynamics [41]. (7) Anosmia and ageusia: it has been suggested that anosmia and ageusia may play an important role in the etiology of temporary ED associated with COVID-19 [47].
(..)
ED might be the first symptom of an otherwise asymptomatic cardiovascular disease, and all patients with ED without an apparent cause should undergo a comprehensive cardiovascular examination [48, 49]. We recommend that special attention needs to be paid to the mental health of COVID-19 patients to reduce ED incidence, and comprehensive cardiovascular examinations should be conducted for patients with ED of unknown cause.
(..)

If you are perplexed by the OR 1.13 of anxiety being proposed as particularly prominent with an RR 2.64 of COVID: consider the many possible physical mechanisms mentioned.

Pingui has issued a correction as of 12:26 on Sep 18, 2023

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

RandolphCarter posted:

finally working again and man does it suck doing labor in an aura.

I'm a heavy duty vehicle technician and I wear milwaukee n95svwith the rubber gasket.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Decent read with fundamentally nothing new to thread regulars, but might be a good article to send to people insisting that their one negative test means they don't have COVID (I cut out most of the text besides the headers, because it became overly long):

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/health/covid-19-home-tests-still-work-wellness/index.html posted:

Home tests still work to detect Covid-19, but here’s why your test may not pick up an infection

With Covid-19 cases up across the country, many people are once again relying on home tests to guide decisions about going to work and sending their kids to school and other activities.

A lot of those tests will come back negative, even when a person is 100% sure they have Covid-19. They have had a known exposure, for example, or telltale symptoms they recognize from a previous bout.

That has led to speculation on social media that perhaps rapid tests have lost their ability to detect some of the newer coronavirus variants.
(..)
Tests are less vulnerable to variants
(..)
But ultimately, the tests are still capable of picking up infections, said Todd Merchak, who co-leads the RADx program at the National Institutes of Health. The program, whose name is short for “rapid acceleration of diagnostics,” was created during the pandemic to quickly develop tests for the coronavirus.

“To date, the performance of currently marketed COVID-19 tests has not been adversely impacted by any new variants,” Merchak said in a statement.
(..)
When you test matters
(..)
Repeat testing improves accuracy
(..)
Why rapid tests are often negative in kids
(..)

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Gunshow Poophole posted:

you're probed overnight but how are you feeling? anything worse than your v mild symptoms earlier? hoping it'll stay that way!

I had a fever of 100+ (up to 102) for 36h which broke rather quickly after that. Otherwise besides general malaise most of my symptoms are limited to occasional coughing. I tried testing myself yesterday and the Rapid Response still gave a very faint line so hopefully my viral load is low and masking + filters + hiding in a separate room most of the day will keep my wife from getting infected.

The paxlovid bitterness is real and lingering, though. Nothing makes it go away for very long. At least I don't find it to be metallic.

puncturewound78 posted:

just cause you have a problem with sex workers doesn't mean the rest of us do

:rolleye: I don't have a problem with sex workers. That poster keeps sharing anecdata from randos on Twitter and I'm not clear why. There's research going back 3+ years showing increased risk of strokes in younger people with "mild" COVID infections and even from 2020 for mostly older cohorts.

puncturewound78
Apr 18, 2023

eXXon posted:

I had a fever of 100+ (up to 102) for 36h which broke rather quickly after that. Otherwise besides general malaise most of my symptoms are limited to occasional coughing. I tried testing myself yesterday and the Rapid Response still gave a very faint line so hopefully my viral load is low and masking + filters + hiding in a separate room most of the day will keep my wife from getting infected.

The paxlovid bitterness is real and lingering, though. Nothing makes it go away for very long. At least I don't find it to be metallic.

:rolleye: I don't have a problem with sex workers. That poster keeps sharing anecdata from randos on Twitter and I'm not clear why. There's research going back 3+ years showing increased risk of strokes in younger people with "mild" COVID infections and even from 2020 for mostly older cohorts.

A tweet relevant to the thread topic? Yeah such a mystery why they would share that here.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
my mom is traveling to the US to take of my sister's baby as her maternity leave starts to run out. I gave her packs of masks over the weekend, told her to wear it in the terminal, and all throughout the flight, and she has to be especially careful because "you're flying into a wave of COVID that's hitting the States right now". She was receptive to the message (she still masks on the regular, I just wanted to remind her emphatically) and she said she's going to get tested after she lands and before she meets with her grandson.

that's as best as I can hope for, I suppose

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



puncturewound78 posted:

A tweet relevant to the thread topic? Yeah such a mystery why they would share that here.

There's a specific rule against posting celebrity speculation. If anyone wants to share random people speculating about their relatives having some adverse condition possibly related to COVID then at least include a sentence explaining why that particular case is noteworthy.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
lmao, imagine someone getting paid to make this assessment.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-expects-24-uptake-covid-vaccines-us-cfo-2023-09-18/ posted:

Pfizer forecasts 24% COVID vaccination rate in US this year

Pfizer (PFE.N) expects 24% vaccination rate for COVID-19 shots in the United States this year, Chief Financial Officer David Denton said at a conference on Monday, which equates to roughly 82 million people.
(..)
During the last re-vaccination campaign, when most Americans had either already had the COVID virus or been previously vaccinated, only around 56.5 million people got the updated booster shots, according to federal data.
(..)

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



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Pingui posted:

lmao, imagine someone getting paid to make this assessment.

haha that's crazy optimistic

only 17% of the US population is over the age of 65

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
wonder what fragile hall monitor had that winning idea

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster
clearly vaccination rates will increase 40% this year :hmmyes:

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Clapping Larry
seriously what's the flu vax uptake rate and multiply that by 0.33, repeating of course

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Maed
Aug 23, 2006


I signed up for an appointment for the new vaccine today in Brooklyn and just got a call saying they don't have it yet, so good luck out there goons

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