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fart blood posted:Because PR agencies are mostly a grift. While true, I think it's equally true that CEOs like Sarandos and Zaslav and Iger really are clueless enough to need to be told that.
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So, is no news good news at this point? Is this a case where it would not be a surprise to hear that a deal has been made at 1AM or something along those lines?
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 03:38 |
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OldSenileGuy posted:So, is no news good news at this point? Is this a case where it would not be a surprise to hear that a deal has been made at 1AM or something along those lines? If there's not a WGA deal tonight and they're willing to come back tomorrow, it's a good sign that the AMPTP has decided to stop loving around and finding out.
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 03:55 |
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ashpanash posted:If there's not a WGA deal tonight and they're willing to come back tomorrow, it's a good sign that the AMPTP has decided to stop loving around and finding out. Well, it looks like that's exactly what's happening!
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 06:52 |
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WGA message to members tonight:quote:DEAR MEMBERS, The part in bold feels significant. I hope it’s for a potential celebration on the picket lines.
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 08:54 |
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Argyle posted:WGA message to members tonight: Even if they reach a deal, it still has to be reviewed and voted on by members, correct? Anyone know the potential time frame for that?
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 09:45 |
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Third day in a row of meeting I’d say is a good sign considering how often the writers were blown off.
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 13:02 |
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VorpalBunny posted:Even if they reach a deal, it still has to be reviewed and voted on by members, correct? Anyone know the potential time frame for that? I've heard everything from 2 weeks to "immediately" but that was months ago. Vibes are great out here at Paramount. Already hearing rumors that there's a deal but could be nervous optimism. Then again, they called us all out to the lines today and we are extending the hours, so it really feels like something is imminent
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 21:13 |
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Argyle posted:I've heard everything from 2 weeks to "immediately" but that was months ago. You'd know better than me but Paramount really can't hold out much longer. If there's no deal I imagine they'd join Sony and break for their own interim deal.
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 21:28 |
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Argyle posted:I've heard everything from 2 weeks to "immediately" but that was months ago. Awesome! So I guess that would mean showrunners could get back to cutting their already-filmed stuff and getting everything as close to locked as possible, and then SAG can bang out their agreement and then actors would be able to ADR once the shows are locked. Hope springs eternal!
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 21:56 |
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I sure hope the guild is getting nearly everything they want and that this is a good sign for SAG-AFTRA too. As a mere (but voracious) consumer of media, I'm quite willing to go without new content for a very long time in order to support the guilds. I despise billionaires and I especially hate when they try to screw over the actually talented people doing all the real work just to further (and quite unjustifiably) enrich themselves while sitting back and doing absolutely nothing. Go guilds! Put the screws to 'em!
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 22:12 |
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Well, so much for a dramatic finish on the picket lines. We packed up at 2 PM. To quote the strike captain as we were leaving, “I hope I don’t see any of you on Monday.” Now to refresh Deadline every 5 seconds for the rest of the weekend.
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 22:55 |
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Argyle posted:Well, so much for a dramatic finish on the picket lines. We packed up at 2 PM. To quote the strike captain as we were leaving, “I hope I don’t see any of you on Monday.” Good luck. Rooting for you.
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 23:18 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB2yqeD0Nus
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 00:54 |
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AMPTP:
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 00:56 |
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No deal yet but they are meeting on Saturday.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 05:54 |
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haven't seen any news yet but did want to share this little tidbit. https://twitter.com/beneltham/status/1705023660619346224 Drew Carrey has been paying the tab at a restaurant down the street from the WB lot.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 21:16 |
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IIRC he did it too in the last strike
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 22:06 |
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From one of the more trustworthy Variety writers: https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/writers-strike-wga-amptp-contract-talks-2-1235733340/
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 22:25 |
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If it’s the trades, take it with a grain of salt.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 22:34 |
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fart blood posted:If it’s the trades, take it with a grain of salt. Again, note that Deadline, TVLine, The Hollywood Reporter and Variety are all owned by Penske Media, and they're all in the bag for the AMPTP.
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 00:08 |
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fart blood posted:If it’s the trades, take it with a grain of salt. Oh trust me i know, I’m just trusting this a little more because someone I trust linked it (and it didn’t lead in with “Oh the Strikes are Over” it just reads as more basic information.
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 00:20 |
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muscles like this! posted:haven't seen any news yet but did want to share this little tidbit. I've had a few free Drew lunches over the strike. Dude is a legend. And Swingers got new owners a couple years ago and the food is noticeably better. The patty melt was amazing. I've been refreshing the trades so often that it probably looks like a DDoS attack on their end.
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 00:23 |
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Timby posted:Again, note that Deadline, TVLine, The Hollywood Reporter and Variety are all owned by Penske Media, and they're all in the bag for the AMPTP. And the few stories that painted the CEOs of the studios in a bad light were basically only there because Carol Lombardini was pissed that she was getting thrown under the bus.
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 00:38 |
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So I'm an idiot - what happens once we have a deal? WGA members still have to vote on it, right? And even if the WGA strike is resolved, what does that do for SAG?
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 02:37 |
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Yeah WGA would have to vote though I imagine the union leadership wouldn’t put forward an agreement they expect to be rejected. And a WGA deal would be a useful baseline for SAG- ie “You were willing to give this to them so it shouldn’t be hard to do the same for us”- but there are probably some specific points of contention that’d still have to be hammered out so I wouldn’t imagine a second deal immediately after.
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 02:49 |
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WGA is responding tomorrow.
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 03:08 |
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The Variety article's headline was telling with its 'best and final offer.' Final is debatable and 'best' would be 'all of the WGA's easily met demands.'
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 03:38 |
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Dawgstar posted:The Variety article's headline was telling with its 'best and final offer.' Final is debatable and 'best' would be 'all of the WGA's easily met demands.' Yeah it looks like sometime between the time I posted and now, it got “updated” to something much more sensational and trad-y so. Egg on my Face there
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 04:55 |
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The trade article is just the studios trying to save face and look like they got something out of this debacle.
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# ? Sep 24, 2023 13:04 |
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Dawgstar posted:The Variety article's headline was telling with its 'best and final offer.' Final is debatable and 'best' would be 'all of the WGA's easily met demands.' Apparently that's legal jargon? Like "Last Best Final Offer" means you're prepared for the other side to sign it, not that they'll blow everything up if you don't.
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 02:14 |
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Looks like meetings didn’t even start until 4pm today. Could be another long night.
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 02:32 |
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https://www.wgacontract2023.org/announcements/negotiations-update-tentative-agreementwga posted:We have reached a tentative agreement on a new 2023 MBA, which is to say an agreement in principle on all deal points, subject to drafting final contract language.
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 03:28 |
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xerxus posted:https://www.wgacontract2023.org/announcements/negotiations-update-tentative-agreement I can’t even begin to process the relief I’m feeling. Very eager to see the details, but it’s a very good sign that they’re willing to let us work during the ratification process. We did it. So proud of our negotiating committee for holding the line and dealing with endless AMPTP nonsense. Everyone I know is thrilled, except for my dog who will be quite furious that I have to leave the house regularly again.
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 03:42 |
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Very good
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 03:45 |
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Man, here's hoping https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1706132051504648559
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 03:50 |
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If they really did concede then I guess we can expect to see a SAG deal soon.
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 03:59 |
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Great news to end the weekend on.
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 04:01 |
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I'll believe it when I see the actual proposed contract, not before.
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 08:36 |
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Fingers crossed it works out, anything less than everything they asked for is less than they deserve, but if its a good deal it's a good deal!
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