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Sean Strickland world championship match.
This poll is closed.
No. 2 4.88%
gently caress you. 22 53.66%
I'm going to stop watching the UFC. 8 19.51%
I stopped watching the UFC years ago. 9 21.95%
Total: 41 votes
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STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

there was a period of time where they were exploring running a Boxing promotion and trying to do hybrid Zuffa Boxing/UFC cards but they just found boxing too expensive to get a foothold in and gave up on it pretty quickly.

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TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Yeah actually paying the fighters is hard or something.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

delightful posted:

Just catching up on the ONE card and loving it. Has Dana ever commented on the possibility of adding 1-2 non-MMA combat sports to UFC cards? I think as long as they didn't add a ton of weight classes, I'd definitely enjoy a Muay Thai and/or Boxing fight. It would break up the cards nicely, and gives them more champs to promote.

If they ever do, you know its going to be White Power Slap

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Bucky Fullminster posted:

This is not an mma / athlete thing.

This is a "decades of brain-poisoning anti-progressive conspiracy-based propaganda" thing. You have people in all sorts of positions saying essentially the same thing.

I definitely think the correlation with being an insanely good athlete and time spent away from traditional higher education and more literacy around science and critical thinking hurts their chances.

sausage king of Chicago posted:

why does that fight feel so wrong

Cuz Tony needs to be done with fighting. Its such a prop up for Paddy.

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



delightful posted:

Just catching up on the ONE card and loving it. Has Dana ever commented on the possibility of adding 1-2 non-MMA combat sports to UFC cards? I think as long as they didn't add a ton of weight classes, I'd definitely enjoy a Muay Thai and/or Boxing fight. It would break up the cards nicely, and gives them more champs to promote.

The only crossover I foresee is a Power Slap match to end the prelims or open a main card.

E: f, b

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
Bellator prelims are live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsfLOgytMsg

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

kimbo305 posted:

I definitely think the correlation with being an insanely good athlete and time spent away from traditional higher education and more literacy around science and critical thinking hurts their chances.

CarlCX posted:

MMA is by no means responsible for or unique to the disinformation vortex, but I do think it shares a uniquely strong bond to it. The might-makes-right impact of martial arts has been a tool of authoritarianism for a reason.

Yeah fair enough. Also DJT giving Dana the first casino gigs.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



do not ask dana to incorporate more sports into cards we'll just be forced to watch loving slapping

individual865
Mar 26, 2007

Life on the outside ain't what it used to be.
UFC prelims starting now.

ccubed
Jul 14, 2016

How's it hanging, brah?
No gameday thread? (not it)

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!
I'll post a thread, hang on.

:siren:click here for fight night GDT:siren:

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

Hola SEA!


CarlCX posted:

MMA is by no means responsible for or unique to the disinformation vortex, but I do think it shares a uniquely strong bond to it. The might-makes-right impact of martial arts has been a tool of authoritarianism for a reason.

I think its worth pointing out that martial arts have also been core to narratives of the oppressed overcoming reactionary forces, egalitarianism, etc. and actually served the purpose of making peasant rebellions more effective in e.g. medieval China. I think its less martial arts, and more fight sports that are unfortunately conducive to being appropriated by fascist and libertarian ideologies.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



DeimosRising posted:

I think its worth pointing out that martial arts have also been core to narratives of the oppressed overcoming reactionary forces, egalitarianism, etc. and actually served the purpose of making peasant rebellions more effective in e.g. medieval China. I think its less martial arts, and more fight sports that are unfortunately conducive to being appropriated by fascist and libertarian ideologies.

Strength sports like powerlifting are rife with this too fwiw.

paul harris
Oct 22, 2020
The word “doxing” is derived from the term “dropping documents.” Doxing is a form of cyberbullying that uses sensitive or secret information, statements, or records for the harassment, exposure, or other exploitation of targeted individuals.
what?

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008


BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

Can we not derail every sports thread with politic takes. Go to cspam or something.

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003



you're right, talking about politics and the effects of disinformation on mixed martial artists is definitely in no way relevant to UFC discussion

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

CarlCX posted:

you're right, talking about politics and the effects of disinformation on mixed martial artists is definitely in no way relevant to UFC discussion

Well while we're here, having probably read over 20K words of Carl's over the years, I'd like to offer a similar number in return, about where all this disinformation poo poo is actually coming from. It's a similar kind of style to the write-ups I think, telling the "whole" story, the human story, the journey of how the various paths crossed to lead to this point. Zooming all the way out and back in kind of vibe. Perhaps I flatter myself. Anyway obviously a lot has been written about Q-stuff already of course, but this answers the question of who actually started it and how, right down to the specific people in the room when it was conceived, which hasn't been done before. The journalists are actively wrong about it, often aggressively so. No one seems to care, and I don't expect that to be any different in here, and I don't want to start a discussion or derail the thread or anything, so please scroll past if it's not your bag, I'm just offering it to a fellow amateur writer and our benevolent OP and anyone else who might be interested since it came up and it kind of affects everything.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Well while we're here, having probably read over 20K words of Carl's over the years, I'd like to offer a similar number in return, about where all this disinformation poo poo is actually coming from. It's a similar kind of style to the write-ups I think, telling the "whole" story, the human story, the journey of how the various paths crossed to lead to this point. Zooming all the way out and back in kind of vibe. Perhaps I flatter myself. Anyway obviously a lot has been written about Q-stuff already of course, but this answers the question of who actually started it and how, right down to the specific people in the room when it was conceived, which hasn't been done before. The journalists are actively wrong about it, often aggressively so. No one seems to care, and I don't expect that to be any different in here, and I don't want to start a discussion or derail the thread or anything, so please scroll past if it's not your bag, I'm just offering it to a fellow amateur writer and our benevolent OP and anyone else who might be interested since it came up and it kind of affects everything.

:psyduck:

paul harris
Oct 22, 2020
The word “doxing” is derived from the term “dropping documents.” Doxing is a form of cyberbullying that uses sensitive or secret information, statements, or records for the harassment, exposure, or other exploitation of targeted individuals.

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Well while we're here, having probably read over 20K words of Carl's over the years, I'd like to offer a similar number in return, about where all this disinformation poo poo is actually coming from. It's a similar kind of style to the write-ups I think, telling the "whole" story, the human story, the journey of how the various paths crossed to lead to this point. Zooming all the way out and back in kind of vibe. Perhaps I flatter myself. Anyway obviously a lot has been written about Q-stuff already of course, but this answers the question of who actually started it and how, right down to the specific people in the room when it was conceived, which hasn't been done before. The journalists are actively wrong about it, often aggressively so. No one seems to care, and I don't expect that to be any different in here, and I don't want to start a discussion or derail the thread or anything, so please scroll past if it's not your bag, I'm just offering it to a fellow amateur writer and our benevolent OP and anyone else who might be interested since it came up and it kind of affects everything.



lmao

paul harris
Oct 22, 2020
The word “doxing” is derived from the term “dropping documents.” Doxing is a form of cyberbullying that uses sensitive or secret information, statements, or records for the harassment, exposure, or other exploitation of targeted individuals.
the psychotic little freaks that this site churns out is amazing

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
I wonder if conspiracy theorists consider that outsider art.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Awkward double post, but John Howard's kids got shot while hanging out near some other gathering that turned violent. His daughter is in really bad shape.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-siblings-injured-in-senseless-gunfire

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Perhaps I flatter myself.

:hmmyes:

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

Just please be normal

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

CarlCX posted:



you're right, talking about politics and the effects of disinformation on mixed martial artists is definitely in no way relevant to UFC discussion

him screaming freedom while holding a bible before a fight and then wanting to pray on camera after while talking about whatever the gently caress conspiracy was incredibly funny. america distilled down to its purest form.

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
No UFC card next week. This is the first week off from UFC since the start of June.

Carl, you deserve the rest


Friday we have a ONE FC card on the Amazon Prime headling with fan favorite Stamp!
Main card has 4 female fights , 3 of them for titles

And Saturday morning there is a PFL Europe card headline by Cdric Doumb

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

Thank you for sharing, even if that is a little far afield from MMA-specific politics chat.

Also I felt a little bad about mitchellposting and wanted to make the point a little more constructively: If you do not want to see the thread talking about a thing or if you'd rather the thread be talking about another thing, post another thing. We have like 40 posters and we get at most 20 pages a month. There is always room for more posts. Post the stuff you want to talk about.

Digital Jedi posted:

No UFC card next week. This is the first week off from UFC since the start of June.

Carl, you deserve the rest

I am relieved to get the time off except I'll spend half of it searching for silly pictures of fighters in Halloween costumes for next month's thread.

kimbo305 posted:

Awkward double post, but John Howard's kids got shot while hanging out near some other gathering that turned violent. His daughter is in really bad shape.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-siblings-injured-in-senseless-gunfire

Also on the topic of america.txt, gently caress.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
1. You do not want me posting what I want to talk about since it's just going to be more about Iron Turtle

2. gently caress, that sucks for Howard
2b. Now I gotta go watch Doomsday vs Superman again

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
I remember these threads used to get super lovely when there was multiple weeks or even a month break between UFC events. In these next two weeks, lets bring it back to old school days!

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

DeimosRising posted:

I think its worth pointing out that martial arts have also been core to narratives of the oppressed overcoming reactionary forces, egalitarianism, etc. and actually served the purpose of making peasant rebellions more effective in e.g. medieval China. I think its less martial arts, and more fight sports that are unfortunately conducive to being appropriated by fascist and libertarian ideologies.

Eh, I think it really is martial arts, for a few reasons. The first and more historical one is the link between martial arts, particularly cultural identity and folk traditions, and nationalism. But also, since the 20th century and the rise of mass culture, martial arts (and as other posters mentioned, things like powerlifting) are easily appropriated into the aesthetics of fascism -- normative masculinity, individual strength, violence, Hellenistic imagery, and so on. This is all necessarily true for combat sports as well, but I think combat sports being the only real avenue for martial arts to also be a big business and have a breakthrough cultural presence acts as an accelerant.

Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Sep 24, 2023

cagliostr0
Jun 8, 2020
I just think repeated blows to the head is a prerequisite for believing insane right wing poo poo

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Fozzy The Bear posted:

I remember these threads used to get super lovely when there was multiple weeks or even a month break between UFC events. In these next two weeks, lets bring it back to old school days!
or can jon jones do more crimes plz

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


Shumagorath posted:

or can jon jones do more crimes plz

Seeing Stipe take down an 'Interm' belt before retiring and blasting JBJ on the mic would be magical

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



Shumagorath posted:

or can jon jones do more crimes plz

*opens bookmarked threads, sees 447 unread posts in the MMA thread

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Fozzy The Bear posted:

I remember these threads used to get super lovely when there was multiple weeks or even a month break between UFC events. In these next two weeks, lets bring it back to old school days!

*dusts off smv.xls*

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Shumagorath posted:

or can jon jones do more crimes plz

Would you accept a slightly dented Israel Adesanya crime?
https://twitter.com/BloodyElbow/status/1706069310991450300?t=81MFoWKYLMJ8OR_o6z1Nsg&s=19

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
20d ahead of the Strickland fight :thunk:

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

kimbo305 posted:

20d ahead of the Strickland fight :thunk:

It certainly makes me revise my thought that Izzy is cooked. He might just be loving up.

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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

TheKingslayer posted:

It certainly makes me revise my thought that Izzy is cooked. He might just be loving up.

The limited gameplan and lacking fight IQ that flight Strickland could still put on plenty of highlight reel fights against other top 10 WWs, if the UFC isnt done with him promotionally.

Its certainly not a great sign for his fight camp focus going forward, though.

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