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trashy owl posted:It's me, almost nobody! Just barely a somebody. Very few people have no covid *and* no vaccine. And pretty sure we've all inhaled *some* virus at this point. Just not enough to get a real infection going. So very hard to get a real, honest "baseline" anymore for efficacy comparisons. poo poo, its hard to establish even a homogenous sample of any kind for studies going forward. Maybe they should just measure the level of antibodies at the start of the study (but against which variant??).
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 06:46 |
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Baddog posted:Very few people have no covid *and* no vaccine. And pretty sure we've all inhaled *some* virus at this point. Just not enough to get a real infection going. Oh that's fair I did get the initial vaccine series and the first booster round. My spouse is immunocompromised so we rarely go out and when we do we are always masked up. No slips to drink water or whatever, we plan around excursions. Since there is no sterilizing vaccine we haven't gotten more shots, especially with how short the "window of protection" has proven to be. Possible to live a cool, good, happy, and fulfilling life without taking chances. Doubt there's any protection left from those vaccine series and while they weren't the actual virus, maybe the immune system has a sort of "cold storage". Apologies for misunderstanding
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 06:53 |
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i got a weeks worth of posts to catch up on but wanted to post some observations before i play catch up so i got covid at the end of august, knocked me out for 48+ hours, but thank you based paxlovid x2 and no rebound i cleared it within a week tried to exercise, lol no, rested for 3 weeks and this week i was able to do poo poo i used to do, just at a slower pace. the past weeks of talking with family friends that run and others in the running community lol the loving horror stories from covid infections they opened up to me upon hearing that i recently recovered from covid. these are people i've talked to on a regular basis for years, but only now do they tell me, the only loving guy still masking, how bad covid hit them. i never knew that any of them had covid prior. "it took me about 2 years to finally feel back to normal" "i was in the hospital for about a week" "i had to cancel all my races last year" "i posted on strava about an injury, but really post covid i just couldn't run"
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Tzen posted:the past weeks of talking with family friends that run and others in the running community lol the loving horror stories from covid infections they opened up to me upon hearing that i recently recovered from covid. these are people i've talked to on a regular basis for years, but only now do they tell me, the only loving guy still masking, how bad covid hit them. i never knew that any of them had covid prior. You're one of them now. The covidyceps will settle in any day now.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 08:03 |
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Yup, one of my longtime coworkers and friends broke down and told me how badly his last infection hosed him up and I’m not going to judge the guy for getting sick, we’re in a sea of misinformation and he has two kids in school.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 08:28 |
I was at the Underworld show and barely anyone was masking. I saw one guy with an N95 and went over to him to point at my mask give a thumbs up. Mask gang
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 09:24 |
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12 hours after booster: my joints are sore and I am very cold. first reaction this bad.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 09:58 |
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I dropped by the supermarket and was surprised by the number of people masking, seemed quite a bit higher than previous weeks.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 10:55 |
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Ive had the same ‘oh yeah, I had covid, I ran out of sick leave and had to put my rent on the credit card’ conversations or whatever with people. always in casual conversation about other things then it comes up that ‘oh yeah I haven’t rode my bike to work in a year since covid because I can’t’ it’s so easy to walk around not knowing how many people get seriously sick. its like this weird ‘I don’t talk about it because it makes people uncomfortable’ thing came up during union bargaining last week, talking about kids, and a woman volunteered that her child hasn’t been to school at all this year because he keeps getting sick the attitude is almost always stoic. ‘well, what are you gonna do???’ it’s everywhere, but no one wants to talk about it. Americans and their fear of looking weak
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 11:31 |
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it’s clear the government is going to do nothing . what can you do ?
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 11:44 |
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Tzen posted:the past weeks of talking with family friends that run and others in the running community lol the loving horror stories from covid infections they opened up to me upon hearing that i recently recovered from covid. these are people i've talked to on a regular basis for years, but only now do they tell me, the only loving guy still masking, how bad covid hit them. i never knew that any of them had covid prior. That one play where all the people are turning to rhinoceroses, but they don’t like being rhinoceroses, but they won’t tell you that till you’re also a rhinoceros, and they’re capable of communicating and choose not to.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 11:49 |
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RandolphCarter posted:12 hours after booster: my joints are sore and I am very cold. first reaction this bad. trip report 3: just puked for the first time in years. new slut juice got hands.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 12:53 |
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RandolphCarter posted:trip report 3: just puked for the first time in years. new slut juice got hands. drat that's bad, drink some water get back to bed and sleep a bit more, call out from work.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 12:59 |
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euphronius posted:it’s clear the government is going to do nothing . this but about anything ever again. Sorry, you're on your own
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:16 |
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Platystemon posted:That one play where all the people are turning to rhinoceroses, but they don’t like being rhinoceroses, but they won’t tell you that till you’re also a rhinoceros, and they’re capable of communicating and choose not to.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:16 |
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NPR had a 'how to act when you return to the office' segment a few days ago and they were saying "don't be a downer", eg don't talk about covid or being sick. lmao
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:17 |
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lol that dude is confusing the black plague with the Spanish flu.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:17 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:NPR had a 'how to act when you return to the office' segment a few days ago and they were saying "don't be a downer", eg don't talk about covid or being sick. lmao I think it’s that, and also “don’t tell your colleagues how much you wanna wring your useless CEOs neck for ordering you back to the grindstone” coz that leads to bad things such as people realizing they are being shafted and organization of labor and other such nasties.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:27 |
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Oracle posted:lol that dude is confusing the black plague with the Spanish flu. Confusing the common summer flu with the endemic plague.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:36 |
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Pingui posted:Confusing the common summer flu with the endemic plague. The Disney Flu
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:37 |
Paxlovid finished 36 hours ago. I have the smallest possible amount of gunk in the post-nasal spot but it's hardly even a noticeable symptom if I wasn't being hyperaware. If it's Covid, get Paxlovid.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:39 |
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Plague Island doubling down on the brand.https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/29/parents-in-england-urged-to-ensure-children-get-mmr-vaccine-amid-uptake-drop posted:Parents in England urged to ensure children get MMR jab amid uptake drop
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:46 |
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trashy owl posted:Oh that's fair I did get the initial vaccine series and the first booster round. My spouse is immunocompromised so we rarely go out and when we do we are always masked up. No slips to drink water or whatever, we plan around excursions. Since there is no sterilizing vaccine we haven't gotten more shots, especially with how short the "window of protection" has proven to be. Possible to live a cool, good, happy, and fulfilling life without taking chances. Doubt there's any protection left from those vaccine series and while they weren't the actual virus, maybe the immune system has a sort of "cold storage". no apology necessary, also, good for you and thank you for looking out for your spouse
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 14:54 |
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Case study out on the UK BA.2.86.1 care home outbreak: "High attack rate in a large care home outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 BA.2.86, East of England, August 2023" https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2023.28.39.2300489 posted:(..)
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Leana Wen smartly suggesting isolation guidelines should be made into a decision tree to alleviate confusion https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/28/cdc-isolation-guidance-covid-protection/ posted:The Checkup With Dr. Wen: The CDC needs to change its covid guidance Taking it from 2 categories of your own disease course, to a subjective evaluation of the people you will be interacting with's relative risk, is sure to make things less confusing. Archived link: https://archive.li/MfYHl
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:06 |
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Pillowpants posted:Wastewater Data can confirm that covid is tearing through new mexico with abandon we did better than average with getting folks vaccinated here’s to hoping we don’t lose too many with the poorest medical infrastructure in the country
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:10 |
RandolphCarter posted:this post has angered the shot as my arm is now sore and stiff. hope it fades before I go back to work tomorrow, I need that muscle to lift poo poo. i got the shot on Monday and the lymph node in that armpit is still angry. the previous ones weren't nearly this bad
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:10 |
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Pingui posted:
Yeah that would be nice, huh! Sure wish we had that!
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:14 |
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wens solution seems to be you are on your own, good luck
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euphronius posted:wens solution seems to be you are on your own, good luck correct, the pandemic was a dry run to test how that message would go and it was a rousing success. expect any and all public policy in the future to follow suit drunk driving is endemic and all drivers should calibrate their risk tolerance. If you're scared, stay off the roads.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:22 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:
I feel like like we’re going to see the opposite on issues like drunk driving, where we will continue to make more and more laws in the name of more cops
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:32 |
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we could make it illegal to have covid ?
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euphronius posted:we could make it illegal to have covid ? we do need to fill up that new billion dollar prison in Alabama
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:36 |
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So I got covid a short while back, due to other people coming to the wife's office while knowing they were sick, and it was pretty rough. First time getting it. I've been getting back to the gym with the help from great folks in this thread that have posted some good advice. But I had another run-in with covid since, and I just need a place to vent about it. This week, despite our company being on 'code red' for money, needing to batten down the hatches and not do things like promotions this year... decided that we needed to have an in-person workshop. This included flying people over from Europe. As a result of this, leadership decided to organize an 'in office day' on Tuesday. I was tasked with running a team meeting, and included in my slides a 'safety moment' about COVID. The basic stuff, don't come in when you get sick, have symptoms, are exposed, etc... I presented this, and then I started hearing... throughout the day... 'the functional people on floor 2 are having an outbreak of covid'.... 'like 2/3rds of them are out sick after coming in and sharing it' I decided then that I wouldn't attend the in-person workshop the next day. I made up some excuse about kids not feeling well. I met with leadership who asked for my feedback on having everyone come to the office... Guess what happened? In that 40 person workshop, several people were symptomatic and tested positive for covid. Including travelers from Europe. They sat together for 8 hours Wednesday, hot boxing each others farts and covid particles. The management that I met with that asked about coming back to the office? Exposed. You really can't make this up. People are still, STILL, trying to live like covid isn't a thing. Just let me loving work from home. I've done it since 2020 now, only coming in when absolutely necessary. There were people on the phone in the workshop meeting via teams anyway, so it wasn't like we lost anything from being remote. Paying for a bunch of flights over from the EU while not paying for promotions, certifications, etc this year is also mindblowingly stupid.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:37 |
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shazbot posted:I feel like like we’re going to see the opposite on issues like drunk driving, where we will continue to make more and more laws in the name of more cops There was massive opposition to drunk driving laws, seatbelt laws, etc when they were pushed through over the objections of the general public. There's no way in hell anything like that could happen today.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 15:53 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:There was massive opposition to drunk driving laws, seatbelt laws, etc when they were pushed through over the objections of the general public. There's no way in hell anything like that could happen today. fox news would have weekly segments where they interview someone who survived a crash cause they were thrown to safety, rather than burning to death trapped by a seatbelt
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thedavid posted:So I got covid a short while back, due to other people coming to the wife's office while knowing they were sick, and it was pretty rough. First time getting it. I've been getting back to the gym with the help from great folks in this thread that have posted some good advice. How do you expect management to make decisions on But in all seriousness, everything is dumb and getting dumber, best of luck out there and feel free to vent here Pingui has issued a correction as of 16:23 on Sep 29, 2023 |
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Pingui posted:minimizing societal disruption Can't stop thinking about this.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 16:20 |
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I feel fortunate that the most I get in RTO pressure is occasional passive aggressive comments about the optics of a hybrid meeting not having many in-person attendees (half of whom had covid in the last month).Pingui posted:Plague Island doubling down on the brand. Speaking of which, I don't remember how I ended up on Sky News but the sidebar recommended an article subtitled: 'A student could "barely walk" after what he thought was freshers' flu turned out to be meningitis.'. A mild lol at "fresher's flu" and a healthy at meningitis.
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Richard Stallman has cancer. lymphoma? could it be connected to post-covid immune theft? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37699931 what da gently caress https://bjgp.org/content/73/728/109 Enlargement of axillary, supraclavicular, or cervical lymph nodes following vaccination with COVID-19 mRNA vaccines is more frequent than initially reported, with a rate reaching up to 16% following the second dose of the Moderna mRNA vaccine. Although vaccine-related lymphadenopathy is most often a benign, self-resolving phenomenon, a few cases or B-cell- or T-cell-derived lymphoma were reported in the literature. There are also reports of clinico-pathological features suggestive of lymphoma but which ultimately proved to be caused by a non- malignant condition such as Epstein–Barr infection, extrapulmonary tuberculosis, or histiocytic necrotising lymphadenitis (Kikuchi‒Fujimoto disease). So far, these isolated observations did not receive much attention in the medical community as the causal relationship with the vaccine administration was not established. On the other hand, they raise concerns in the lay public, especially among patients with similar experiences. https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/59/1/157 We report on a 66-year-old man who presented with a right axillary lymphadenopathy approximately 10 days after receiving the third dose of the BNT162b2 vaccine. The lymphadenopathy gradually enlarged, and physical examination and ultrasound (US) revealed one right axillary 6.99 cm and one right supraclavicular 2.36 cm lymphadenopathy. Histologic examination of the right axillary nodule revealed anaplastic large-cell lymphoma that was ALK negative and CD30 positive. A total body computerized tomography (CT) scan, positron emission tomography (PET) and bone-marrow biopsy showed a stage-II non-Hodgkin lymphoma (NHL). The patient was treated with chemotherapy and a scheme of Brentuximab Vedotin, Cyclophosphamide, Doxorubicin and Prednisone (BV-CHP) for six cycles and is now well and in complete remission. The revision of the literature revealed eight additional cases of NHL developed shortly after COVID-vaccination. There were four cases of diffuse large-B-cell lymphoma (DLBCL) (one in a patient who was a heart transplant recipient and developed an Epstein–Bar-virus-positive DLBCL), one case of extranodal NK/T-cell lymphoma, one patient with subcutaneous panniculitis-like T-cell lymphoma, one case of marginal zone B-cell lymphoma and one primary cutaneous anaplastic large-cell lymphoma (PC-ALCL). In five cases, the lymphoma developed after BNT162b2 mRNA vaccination, including one case after ChAdOx1 nCOV-19, one case after the adenovirus type 26 (Ad26) vaccine and one after mRNA-1273/Spikevax (ModernaTX). We are aware that the link between COVID-19 vaccination and lymphoma most likely is a chance phenomenon, and that COVID-19 vaccines represent very efficient products for many people around the world. However, we believe that clinical events, even if only temporally associated with novel treatments or novel vaccines, should be reported for the benefit of the patients and the scientific community. there seems to be at least a half dozen unique pathways where SARS-2 covid wrecks immune regulation. bone marrow, stem cells https://libguides.mskcc.org/CovidImpacts/Immune https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/severe-covid-19-may-lead-long-term-innate-immune-system-changes In these rare stem cells—the parents of immune-system cells—taken from people recovering from COVID-19, the scientists identified changes in the instructions for which genes got turned on or off. These changes were passed down to daughter cells, leading them to boost production of immune cells called monocytes. In the monocytes from people recovering from severe COVID-19, the changes in gene expression led the cells to pump out greater amounts of molecules called inflammatory cytokines than monocytes from people who were healthy or had non-COVID-19 illnesses. The researchers observed these changes as much as a year after the participants came down with COVID-19. The investigators suspected that an inflammatory cytokine called IL-6 might play role in establishing the changes in gene-expression instructions. They tested their hypothesis both in mice with COVID-19-like disease and in people with COVID-19. In these experiments, some of the subjects received antibodies at the early stage of illness that prevented IL-6 from binding to cells. During recovery, these mice and people had lower levels of altered stem cell gene-expression instructions, monocyte production and inflammatory cytokine production than subjects that didn’t receive the antibody. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2021.719023/full
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