|
I have 2 major problems with EGS. It doesn't tell you what drive your games are installed on and it's impossible to move games between drives w/o a full redownload. Epic acts like the only game anyone is using through EGS is Fortnite, god forbid anyone tries dealing with drive space management. The worst bloatware of Steam is the inventory crap and all the ways Valve's swerved it, like with christmas event points and cards. All that cruft just to make a few extra bucks *off a game launcher* is pretty gross and weird. But I won't deny that as a game dev, it's very nice that getting cards for your game means more sales for very little work. Once Valve decides your game is worthy of having cards, anyway. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Oct 1, 2023 |
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 21:42
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 23:56 |
|
|
Resdfru posted:Remote play together is another really useful steam no added value piece of bloatware feature Yeah! I'm very thankful for that feature's existence. It works surprisingly well when it works and I've been playing all sorts of local multiplayer games with my friends every week via RPT  It has some really annoying issues with controllers and moving them between slots and sometimes you have to retry or even restart Steam on both ends to get it working properly. Classic Valve never fixing glaring issues in features that they lost enthusiasm for.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 21:46
|
|
|
Steam sucks.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 21:49
|
|
|
kliras posted:i wish i could just figure out why my download speeds on steam tend to be so slow. i'm sure there's a reason for it, but be nice with some ui to explain it
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 21:49
|
|
|
DaveKap posted:The worst bloatware of Steam is the inventory crap and all the ways Valve's swerved it, like with christmas event points and cards. Back in 2014 they added a new kind of currency that you gain by uhh... melting down trading cards and community items that is used to create booster packs and they might've also wanted them to be used for trading instead of TF2 keys. The latter never happened and I've never heard of anyone talk about gems after the 2014 winter sale ended. This feature works so poorly that I have gems taking up 5 slots in my inventory, unable to be merged. So even if I wanted to do something with them I couldn't use gems in 4 of the slots.  Also, they can't really pull back on any of this crap because it would make lots of people really mad that they lost their "investments", some have poured loads of money into this for whatever reason. DaveKap posted:Once Valve decides your game is worthy of having cards, anyway. Sininu fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Oct 1, 2023 |
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 21:56
|
|
|
mutata posted:Steam sucks. Skill issue.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 21:57
|
|
|
DaveKap posted:I have 2 major problems with EGS. It doesn't tell you what drive your games are installed on and it's impossible to move games between drives w/o a full redownload. Epic acts like the only game anyone is using through EGS is Fortnite, god forbid anyone tries dealing with drive space management. I was always curious about this, how does the process work? And how many extra sales can you attribute to the cards (rough numbers - maybe a % bump of forecast sales? I dunno.)
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:04
|
|
|
Sininu posted:This feature works so poorly that I have gems taking up 5 slots in my inventory, unable to be merged. So even if I wanted to do something with them I couldn't use gems in 4 of the slots. You can actually force a merge on these. Click "Pack Gems into a Sack" in the inventory with one highlighted, select as many as possible, it'll draw from all of the piles and then you can just unpack them if you want 'em in one single stack. (Or you can sell the sacks on the market for a buck or two. Whatever works.) Shooting Blanks posted:I was always curious about this, how does the process work? And how many extra sales can you attribute to the cards (rough numbers - maybe a % bump of forecast sales? I dunno.) At this point, it means much less than it once did and I'd have to pull up an old writeup I did about the completely abandoned state of the Steam card market, but the short version is there are definitely still a few bundle sites which will flag "hey, these games have cards, if that means something to you" on their pages. As for the "How the process works", at this point, to counter the lowest-effort trash, your game cannot have cards or the associated wallpapers/emotes/etc. until it hits a certain sales (and users-booted, I've heard said but unconfirmed?) threshold. Most games on the store now debut with this status: 
claw game handjob fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 1, 2023 |
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:06
|
|
|
mutata posted:Steam sucks. Surely you mean Steam blows.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:07
|
|
|
claw game handjob posted:You can actually force a merge on these. Click "Pack Gems into a Sack" in the inventory with one highlighted, select as many as possible, it'll draw from all of the piles and then you can just unpack them if you want 'em in one single stack. Nope, it doesn't pull from all piles, only from the one that actually has 1000 or more gems. Clicking that button on piles that have less does nothing. If it worked I would've done it all the way back in 2014. Though, thanks to testing it I learned that sacks cost nearly 30 cents so yay free money. Sininu fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 1, 2023 |
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:09
|
|
|
Sininu posted:Nope, it doesn't pull from all piles, only from the one that actually has 1000 or more gems. Clicking that button on piles that have less does nothing. If it worked I would've done it all the way back in 2014. That's weird, I've had to do the same before. That might actually be a bug... which is not a shock, because again, this feature is loving abandoned now. vvvvv edit: I'm convinced the only reason the cards still exist is they're the only reliable/"cheap" way to get profile XP, which is still tied to maximum friendslist cap as an anti-bot/spam protection. The points shop completely murdered the market for the emotes/wallpapers. claw game handjob fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Oct 1, 2023 |
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:12
|
|
|
I wouldn't be surprised if the cards get depreciated soon anyways. I have to admit I kind of dig what they're doing with the points shop. Random free bullshit I get when I buy crap on steam? Sure, I'm game. I've had a bit of fun buying avatars with their fun bux and annoying emotes to spam at my friends when I'm LFG'ing them.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:18
|
|
|
I will admit the last time I tried, I couldn't make cards for my game. I just checked now and it appears I've been approved so nevermind my little grudge on that front.Cyrano4747 posted:I wouldn't be surprised if the cards get depreciated soon anyways. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Oct 1, 2023 |
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:20
|
|
|
Cyrano4747 posted:I have to admit I kind of dig what they're doing with the points shop. Random free bullshit I get when I buy crap on steam? Sure, I'm game. I've had a bit of fun buying avatars with their fun bux and annoying emotes to spam at my friends when I'm LFG'ing them. Huh, I just checked and I have over 200,000 points. Guess I'll get these weird pixel cat avatars.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:27
|
|
|
Cyrano4747 posted:I wouldn't be surprised if the cards get depreciated soon anyways. when's the last time anything in steam was deprecated the integrated chess game was, i suppose, but that was forever ago
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 22:31
|
|
|
EGS sucks.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 23:06
|
|
|
Perhaps the same can be said of all storefronts.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 23:17
|
|
|
Really jonesing for some layoffs so this thread can talk about anything else. Really though, EGS didn't do what Steam did 20 years ago and try to build out with their already (very large) audience. They just threw a bunch of money at the problem and tried to blitzscale ala Uber/AirBNB/etc. Except there was already a much more resilient marketplace they were competing with, and the price savings weren't as drastic. Like yeah, EGS gives away FREE GAMES, but big cheap steam sales are a well-known occurrence. I like to see blitzscaling fail, so that's cool imo (sans layoffs).
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 23:30
|
|
|
Yeah it might be time for the EGS/Steam discussion to be over, or at least to move out of this thread.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 23:32
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 23:36
|
|
|
Dracula would be into EGS, but mostly for the disruption. Belmont would be into Steam, and like full on disco flashing catgirl animated avatar "into Steam." Allucard would be way, way too loving into GOG and also insist on telling you about it, and his opinions re: DRM, all the goddamned time.
|
|
#
?
Oct 1, 2023 23:42
|
|
|
I'm just tired of installing storefronts and launchers
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 00:14
|
|
|
Sininu posted:This feature works so poorly that I have gems taking up 5 slots in my inventory, unable to be merged. So even if I wanted to do something with them I couldn't use gems in 4 of the slots.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 01:22
|
|
|
I ended up buying stuff on Steam that I owned on Epic because the Deck integration is so nice despite being able to launch Epic games too. I dunno, Steam has a lot of cool features that I like. Neither store lets you use the other store's account as a login method despite Epic supporting basically everything else. I've had bad customer support experiences from both companies, with a slightly better record from Valve.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 02:12
|
|
|
Let's draw a line under the Epic/Steam conversation now please.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 02:17
|
|
|
Finally we can talk about MINECRAFT LANUCHER
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 02:22
|
|
|
HopperUK posted:Let's draw a line under the Epic/Steam conversation now please. So about that Ubisoft launcher
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 02:48
|
|
|
mutata posted:Finally we can talk about MINECRAFT LANUCHER The best one is Prism.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 04:52
|
|
|
Let's draw a line under the conversations now please.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 06:40
|
|
|
Command prompt is obviously the superior launcher
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 06:43
|
|
|
Jack Trades posted:Let's draw a line under the conversations now please. 覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧 (I didn稚 draw it but I hope it痴 ok)
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 09:44
|
|
|
https://www.eurogamer.net/significant-job-losses-likely-at-worms-publisher-team17-sources Looks like team17 is the next group of devs up on the chopping block, 2023 has been a real massacre quote:UPDATE 2.45pm UK: Team17 has now confirmed it has begun "a period of consultation" ahead of the restructure reported by Eurogamer this morning, in which significant job losses are expected.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 16:03
|
|
|
They致e published a bunch of good indie games in recent years, including the Blasphemouses (Blasphemii, Blasphemeroms) and Trepang 2 so that痴 a bummer.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 18:05
|
|
|
Classic restructuring as in your-job-just-got-outsourced:quote:Around 50 roles - the vast majority of Team17's QA department - are at risk as part of a major restructuring process, as the company opts to outsource its QA work instead.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 18:33
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/galyonkin/status/1708836762716398033 https://twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1708862355763822609 so what is "epic 5.0" supposed to be?
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 18:51
|
|
|
What were the other ones? 1.0 Epic Megagames/shareware 2.0 Unreal/UT? 3.0 The Unreal Engine Company? 4.0 The Fortnite/EGS company? edit: I remember like 15 years ago there was some weird "Epic Classics" mail order company still apparently selling the retail versions of their shareware for north of $40 a piece. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Oct 2, 2023 |
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 19:01
|
|
|
Epic Games is going to launch their own competitor to Twitter. I am only like... 65% joking about this.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 19:15
|
|
|
kliras posted:https://twitter.com/galyonkin/status/1708836762716398033 Not so easy to launch a store is it
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 19:29
|
|
|
Man I really wonder what is going on with Epic. If they gently caress up the last 3 months of this Fortnite chapter and the live event idk how next year shakes out for them.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 19:43
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 23:56 |
|
|
Mr Hootington posted:Man I really wonder what is going on with Epic. If they gently caress up the last 3 months of this Fortnite chapter and the live event idk how next year shakes out for them. They make 5 gorillion dollars instead of 6 and are totally fine.
|
|
#
?
Oct 2, 2023 19:44
|
|