USCE 2023: Please let them shove a camera up your butt

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Xombie: May 22, 2004; Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Judgy Fucker posted:

You don�t think running for President would expand his public profile at all? Really?

"Really?" isn't an argument. Announcing you are running for president doesn't mean anyone cares who didn't care about you before, when you aren't actually running as someone with the possibility of winning.

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And as far as leaving the Greens, that�s already been discussed. Maybe he is willing to take a hit so as to not be associated with charlatans?

I'm not sure what you're responding to here. I didn't question why he isn't running for the Green party, I only said that not doing so will inherently mean he has less ballot access.

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And I�m not sure what you mean by �take him seriously� because you�ve ascribed that position to me and would like clarification on what I purportedly believe.

I didn't assume you believe anything beyond that you take him seriously. Do you not take him seriously? You're welcome to correct me if you don't.

The fact is that the only real modern independent run for president came from Ross Perot who was wealthy and politically well-connected in a way that West absolutely is not, and who ran on basically a pragmatic populist economic policy that appealed to suburban centrists, which West isn't doing either.

Xombie fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Oct 5, 2023

# ? Oct 5, 2023 19:25

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# ? May 23, 2024 23:25

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

America pre-1954 (closure of Ellis island)

More seriously New Zealand has a pretty solid overall immigration policy. It's a point based system based on what jobs are hiring and anyone who has enough points / right job skills can get in. It would be better if it were less restrictive though.

Keeping in mind, America is literally not even following it's own immigration policy.

Many of these people aren't just workers seeking jobs, they are people seeking asylum, that we are legally required to let in, mostly from areas where we created the conditions they are seeking asylum from.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 19:35

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

In a sort of "Lost Chapter from Catch-22" moment, Biden is calling the press into the Oval Office to condemn the new wall construction started by the Department of Homeland Security.

He is noting that it was part of a 2019 law passed before he was President and he asked for it to be re-appropriated, but congress refused. He says most of the construction is going to roads and lights, but also says that the wall part is a waste of time and money. However, he says it has to be built. The law was passed in 2019 and specified that construction was required to start by October 7th, 2023.

https://twitter.com/asmamk/status/1709974348281295094

you know, i did see the "roads, lights, and barriers" bit and got as far as wondering "huh i wonder how much wiggle room there is to emphasize the first two" but went down the other rabbit hole instead :v:

"Oh no now CBP will have roads to drive on" is considerably less bad than the other thing. Hell, if they're publicly usable roads, there might even be a little societal benefit there.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 19:40

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

James Garfield posted:

I could believe that Cornel West just wanted to do a vanity campaign and wasn't prepared for the level of grift around "socialist professor launches presidential campaign". I mean Bernie Sanders had to have been better prepared, and he was running as a Democrat so legit people were actually offering to work with him, and he still fell for a bunch of grifters.

lol of course this is here

Doesn�t that already exist?

(The vaccine review board thing)

# ? Oct 5, 2023 19:42

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

Don�t mean to cspam post, but this is what an intern getting a job offer looks like.

https://twitter.com/senschumer/status/1710000440958505289?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA

# ? Oct 5, 2023 19:43

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Doesn�t that already exist?

(The vaccine review board thing)

Yes, there are several federal entities that do this from various angles- arguably a couple of them have done more harm than good because they have facilitated antivaxxer arguments.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 19:43

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

PostNouveau posted:

This whips. I'm voting West in 2024.

Hard to choose but I think the worker justice part is my favorite:

Establish a workers bill of rights that includes the end of right-to-work states
Greater protections for workers who attempt to unionize
Requirement for all non-profit organizations to allow for the unionization of workers and collective bargaining
One year limit on contract negotiations - if the contract is not completed in one year, the demands of the workers will be immediately codified
33% minimum worker representation for of all Boards of Directors
Transform Paid Family Leave to mandate a minimum of six-months fully paid time off
End all pay discrepancies based on race, gender identity, disability status, etc.
Establish a federal commission to institute a four-day work week
Review all U.S. trade agreements and cancel any provisions that exploit workers domestically and internationally
National free pre-K childcare

Yeah that all looks extremely good. I don't agree with everything else on his platform, but you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:23

Raenir Salazar: Nov 5, 2010; College Slice

If voting for them causes Trump to win isn't that by definition letting perfect being the enemy of good?

# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:27

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka have apparently been talking to other candidates and may be considering running for the nomination again themselves.

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Boston - Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka:

�As colleagues who helped persuade Dr. West to pursue the Green nomination, we appreciate the good faith effort he has made over the past four months. Running solo, however, may better suit his long standing role as a fiercely independent voice of moral authority. While we share Dr. West�s formidable commitment to peace and justice, we are respectfully parting ways at this juncture, as we are committed to building an independent people-powered party as an indispensable vehicle for challenging empire and oligarchy for the long haul."

�In light of Dr. West�s decision to run independently, we are in discussion with several former candidates about potentially entering the race to carry the Green Party�s anti-war, pro-worker, climate emergency agenda into this critical election."

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Oct 5, 2023

# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:29

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Fister Roboto posted:

Yeah that all looks extremely good. I don't agree with everything else on his platform, but you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

It's a combination of nonsensical things, things requiring acts of Congress that won't pass, things the current administration is already doing, and vague things that may be horrifyingly destructive depending on what they mean.

In a platform that also includes antivaxx and "disband NATO".

# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:34

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka are have apparently been talking to other candidates and may be considering running for the nomination again themselves.

I'm astonished.

https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/status/1709985263592575406

Hopefully the Smartmatic Pillow is comfortable and of higher quality.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:35

Nervous: Jan 25, 2005; Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

zoux posted:

I'm astonished.

https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/status/1709985263592575406

Hopefully the Smartmatic Pillow is comfortable and of higher quality.

As long as it lets me securely vote from my bed I'm all for it.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:42

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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Shooting 12-year olds at weddings isn't a strange enough occurrence to even stop the wedding ceremony in Texas anymore.

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Officiant fires gun to welcome bride, shoots grandson � and wedding goes on

Michael Gardner wanted to start his nephew�s wedding with a bang.

His plan involved shooting a blank from a revolver into the air to signal to the roughly 200 people gathered on Saturday that the outdoor ceremony, which he was officiating, was about to begin. But when Gardner cocked back the hammer of the gun, it slipped, and the homemade blank that he had used, which was closed off with glue, fired from the Pietta 1860 snub-nose revolver that he had borrowed, he said.

As the bride was about to walk down the aisle, what was supposed to be a day of love in Denton, Neb., turned into one of unexpected panic: The wedding officiant accidentally shot his 12-year-old grandson in the shoulder.

Despite the shooting, Gardner finished officiating the wedding.

In an interview with The Washington Post on Wednesday, Gardner said he regretted using a homemade blank; it was the first time he had done so. He acknowledged that the gun did not belong to him and that he had not used the firearm before it was accidentally discharged.

�It�s hard knowing you hurt somebody that you love more than life,� said Gardner, 62, of Odessa, Tex. �Common sense would tell you that you don�t carry a gun around with a blank in it, and that it would do you no good. But the gun was part of the wedding, and it was going to be used to summon the bride.�

The 12-year-old boy was taken to Children�s Hospital about an hour away in Omaha, and his injuries aren�t life-threatening, said Ben Houchin, chief deputy of the Lancaster County Sheriff�s Office in Nebraska.

Gardner has been charged with felony child abuse committed negligently and resulting in serious bodily injury. Gardner � an elected Republican official who has served as a commissioner in Ector County, Tex., since 2021 � said he turned himself in on Monday and was released on a $10,000 bond.

If convicted of the Class IIIA felony in Nebraska, Gardner could face up to three years in prison, a $10,000 fine or both, state law says. Gardner was arraigned on Tuesday and his next court appearance is scheduled for Nov. 3, he said. More charges are expected to be brought against him at that time, he said. The sheriff�s office noted that alcohol is not believed to have played a role in the incident.

Houchin told The Post that Gardner�s decision to use glue in the homemade blank is probably what led to the grandson�s injury.

�It was a horrible, horrible idea to do that,� Houchin said. �There is no doubt he did not want to hurt his grandson, but he certainly did.�

Questions surrounding the shooting have followed Gardner back to West Texas, where Ector County Judge Dustin Fawcett said in a statement to local media that the judge�s office �has been made aware of an incident that took place over the weekend regarding Commissioner Mike Gardner.�

�We are glad to hear that all parties involved are safe,� Fawcett wrote, adding that the office will �continue to monitor for updates. We ask that you join me in praying for Commissioner Gardner and his family.�

Melissa Smith, co-owner of Hillside Events, the wedding venue where the accidental shooting took place, declined to comment. A spokesperson with Children�s Hospital did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Hillside Events says its rustic barn �makes a perfect wedding venue that is surrounded by lush green pastures, beautiful trees, rolling hills, and vineyard with a fresh country breeze, clear blue skies, and panoramic view.� Denton is about 12 miles southwest of downtown Lincoln.

After Gardner�s grandson walked a flower girl down the aisle, the 12-year-old took his place by his grandfather, Gardner said. That�s when Gardner pulled out the revolver.

�I removed the gun and the gun misfired on the way up,� he recalled. �I don�t know exactly what happened at that point.�

When Gardner realized he accidentally shot the boy in his left shoulder, guests jumped up immediately to assist the child, including Gardner�s brother-in-law, who is a paramedic, he said. The boy initially wanted to stay, saying, �No, Pop, I�m okay,� Gardner recalled. As the boy was being treated, Gardner somehow went back to officiating the wedding, with the bride seemingly unaware of what had happened, he said. Gardner later rode with his grandson in the ambulance to the hospital.

�I don�t remember it, but we finished the ceremony,� Gardner said. �The whole thing was pretty fuzzy because I couldn�t get my mind off of him.�

Houchin said Gardner had made his own blank round, placing black powder into a .45-caliber casing and gluing it shut.

�For it to be a blank, he had to put a sealant over it,� the chief deputy explained. �His decision was to use glue to seal the gunpowder in so that it would not fall out of the casing.�

Houchin added, �Sometimes we get hunting accidents and things like that, and people get accidentally wounded that way. But not with a homemade blank at a wedding.�

Gardner said he did not use a fully loaded blank because he did not want a loud bang, and that�s why he used a homemade blank. While he had shot blanks before, Gardner admitted that he had not shot a homemade blank before Saturday.

Gardner said he used someone else�s gun instead of one of his own because �it was more suitable for what I had in mind� for the wedding. The firearm is not considered an �unsafe gun,� he said.

�Anyone that handles any kind of weapon needs to know that weapon and know how it works and know what the possible dangers could be,� Gardner said. �You need to know that, and that is a huge thing.�

Houchin emphasized that in his 30 years with the sheriff�s office, he had �never seen a blank like this.�

�It was poorly made,� he said.

Gardner said he understands the shooting has put his political future in jeopardy. He knows he won�t be in office anymore if he�s convicted and said he won�t push back if it comes to that.

�That�s how it is,� said Gardner, who is up for reelection in 2024. �If you�re convicted, you don�t serve anymore. I�ve never tried to skirt that issue.�

He said the grandson he shot was one of his 20 grandchildren. The boy is a twin and loves baseball, hunting and fishing, Gardner said. He added that the 12-year-old has been discharged from the hospital and is back in Odessa.

Gardner said he spoke with the bride and groom, who said �they were sick about what happened.� But the family has supported one another since the shooting.

�Accidents happen,� Gardner said, before thanking God for his grandson surviving.

�God wasn�t surprised by what happened that day,� Gardner said. �He made sure things were taken care of. He knew what we were going to need that day.�

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...gVxLU&itid=gfta

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zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Omaha is not in Texas, sir. In Texas we don't just wound members of the wedding party, we kill em dead.

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�God wasn�t surprised by what happened that day,� Gardner said. �He made sure things were taken care of. He knew what we were going to need that day.�

It was God's plan that I shoot my grandson at a wedding.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:51

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

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zoux posted:

Omaha is not in Texas, sir. In Texas we don't just wound members of the wedding party, we kill em dead.

Doh, yeah. The shooter was from Texas, but he shot his grandson in Nebraska.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:53

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

I don't know a thing about guns, so like, what part of the cartridge hit the kid? I thought blanks didn't have the projectile bit

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:23

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

In a sort of "Lost Chapter from Catch-22" moment, Biden is calling the press into the Oval Office to condemn the new wall construction started by the Department of Homeland Security.

He is noting that it was part of a 2019 law passed before he was President and he asked for it to be re-appropriated, but congress refused. He says most of the construction is going to roads and lights, but also says that the wall part is a waste of time and money. However, he says it has to be built. The law was passed in 2019 and specified that construction was required to start by October 7th, 2023.

Biden unable to ignore the law when it continues his horrible trump-based border policy, but OK to ignore the law when it means loving over asylum seekers to continue his horrible trump-based border policy.

Gee golly, his hands are tied.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:26

Bel Shazar: Sep 14, 2012

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I don't know a thing about guns, so like, what part of the cartridge hit the kid? I thought blanks didn't have the projectile bit

The glue the moron filled the cartridge in with to keep the powder in.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:26

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I don't know a thing about guns, so like, what part of the cartridge hit the kid? I thought blanks didn't have the projectile bit

There is a "wad" in blanks that holds the gunpowder that gets expelled that can be dangerous at close enough range (an actor was killed in the 80s by putting a gun with blanks up to his head and pulling the trigger).

Also, this dude had some homemade blank made by god knows what process, so there are many ways he could have hosed it up and made a dangerous projectile.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:35

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Brandon Lee got killed by a blank and so did that lady that Alec Baldwin shot, I think.

https://twitter.com/stephen_neukam/status/1709938196711448995
I thought you guys said Scalise didn't have any balls.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:37

Kalli: Jun 2, 2001

Yeah, most blanks use really soft things like a wad of paper, felt or cotton, that just can't do serious damage unless you put it directly to your temple or have a terrible accident at short range.

Or you can have your buddy Dale Gribble make you some blanks and well, what's the worst that could happen?

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:40

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

The Baldwin victim was killed by a live bullet that wasn�t supposed to be in the gun, IIRC

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:40

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

haveblue posted:

The Baldwin victim was killed by a live bullet that wasn�t supposed to be in the gun, IIRC

Why was there a live bullet on set?

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:40

zimbomonkey: Jul 15, 2008; Tattoos? On MY black quarterback?

Yeah Alec's gun had a real bullet.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:41

Kalli: Jun 2, 2001

zoux posted:

Brandon Lee got killed by a blank and so did that lady that Alec Baldwin shot, I think.

As I recall, Lee died from a bullet jam. Projectile stuck in the gun, afterwards a blank was fired through the same gun that pushed the projectile out and killed him.

Baldwin was like the guns were being live fired for funsies during breaks and the armorer both let that happen and didn't clear them properly inbetween takes. (insanely dangerous and stupid poo poo and why the original armorer quit I think and they brought some newbie in).

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:41

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

zoux posted:

Why was there a live bullet on set?

The armorer was a nepotism hire and terrible at that, and had allowed crew to use the prop guns to plink after hours, and didn't bother to confirm they were clear afterward.

Kalli posted:

As I recall, Lee died from a bullet jam. Projectile stuck in the gun, afterwards a blank was fired through the same gun that pushed the projectile out and killed him.

The gun in question had been in a scene earlier in which it someone appeared to be loading it, with what was supposed to be a dummy round but some idiot left the primer in, and subsequently it squibbed. This left a projectile in the barrel with it was subsequently loaded with blanks for Brandon's scene, which then fired the lodged round from where it lay in the barrel and killed him.

Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Oct 5, 2023

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:44

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The armorer was a nepotism hire and terrible at that, and had allowed crew to use the prop guns to plink after hours, and didn't bother to confirm they were clear afterward.

Seems like a good way for someone to get killed

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:44

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

Discendo Vox posted:

It's a combination of nonsensical things, things requiring acts of Congress that won't pass, things the current administration is already doing, and vague things that may be horrifyingly destructive depending on what they mean.

In a platform that also includes antivaxx and "disband NATO".

Like I said, it's not perfect but it's good enough for me. Disbanding NATO is also a plus for me, regardless of how feasible it might be. And I don't see what's nonsensical or destructive about the items in the quoted post.

In any case, I'm just one vote in a reasonably safe blue state. I'd rather spend it on higher aspirations than what we've had for the last four years.

Raenir Salazar posted:

If voting for them causes Trump to win isn't that by definition letting perfect being the enemy of good?

I wasn't planning on voting for Biden anyway, so no. He isn't owed my vote.

Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 5, 2023

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:45

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

zoux posted:

Seems like a good way for someone to get killed

It is, as it turns out!

More substantially, the armorer already had a bad reputation for not taking her job seriously. She'd sweep people routinely, fail to warn people when a weapon was going to be fired (one a previous job she'd nearly deafened Nick Cage by not telling him ahead of time that a gun was going to go off and so he'd not thought to put in ear protection), and by some accounts was regularly high/drunk on set. This was part of why the union crew members had already walked from the set.

Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Oct 5, 2023

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:46

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

zoux posted:

Seems like a good way for someone to get killed

It was!

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:47

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1710032884860387788

I assume that the agents of every nation, hostile and friendly alike, who are embedded at MAL also heard some of this stuff.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:49

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

No problem, remember that the president has magical declassification powers that transcend time and space

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:55

Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Discendo Vox posted:

It's a combination of nonsensical things, things requiring acts of Congress that won't pass, things the current administration is already doing, and vague things that may be horrifyingly destructive depending on what they mean.

In a platform that also includes antivaxx and "disband NATO".

Odd that he left the Green Party seeing as how they keep jumping on that bandwagon.

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1710032884860387788

I assume that the agents of every nation, hostile and friendly alike, who are embedded at MAL also heard some of this stuff.

I'm really going to be surprised if it turns out Donald Trump didn't sell, or try to sell, classified information.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:56

Ratoslov: Feb 15, 2012; Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Angry_Ed posted:

I'm really going to be surprised if it turns out Donald Trump didn't sell, or try to sell, classified information.

In order to sell classified information you need to be able to keep your mouth shut for five minutes.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 22:05

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Ratoslov posted:

In order to sell classified information you need to be able to keep your mouth shut for five minutes.

I'm reminded of how, during WWI, some in the Russian Ohkrana (the tsarist secret police), suspected Rasputin might be a paid German agent, but in reality there'd be no reason to pay him at all as he was a drunken loudmouth who loved boasting about all the secret/important poo poo he got to see whenever he visited Tsarskoe Selo and whatnot.

Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 5, 2023

# ? Oct 5, 2023 22:08

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Ratoslov posted:

In order to sell classified information you need to be able to keep your mouth shut for five minutes.

Yeah, a real �why buy the cow� situation

# ? Oct 5, 2023 22:13

Edgar Allen Ho: Apr 3, 2017; by sebmojo

zoux posted:

Seems like a good way for someone to get killed

There�s a lot of different dangerous things called blanks in normal speech. My rec for the non-gun-knower, and the gun-knower perhaps more so, is don�t joke and always treat it as lethal, check it, still don�t point it at someone if you have, and if you don�t know how to check it, grasp it firmly nowhere near the trigger until someone you trust to know checks it.

I did 19th century reenactment and we used the least lethal blanks ever.

The handheld gun ammo were half a surplus shotgun shell never filled with powder to eject the thing and be a 1860s first generation breed loader clinking bits everywhere, and some powder in paper. We had to extensively practice safety over and over and over and clear the breach and barrel every time we put it down and picked it up, as well as practicing over and over to know by heart when the metal half shell didn�t eject. These would burn the hell out of anyone a few dozen feet in front of the shot. The cartridge would only ever burn you if it got stuck and you shot again.

The cannon were loaded with a full one pound of black powder in a burlap sack. It would incinerate the sack and spew sparks and tons of smoke out the barrel and make the cannon do an ear-protection-mandatory boom. Those ejected nothing, but spewed even more and longer distance burning poo poo. We still swabbed the barrel like a real 19th-century RA battery between each shot, for realism, and because leftover powder in there is bad even if it�s not catastrophic. A pound of powder in a a 24 pounder is a lot. That�s when you stick a big wet stick in and then a big sponge to clean out powder then water so the thing doesn�t blow up in your face. Idk how bad it is to stand in front but famous miniature wargame sculptor Matthew Perry lost a hand because he didn�t stand far enough behind the barrel after loading in such a re-enactment, so I�m guessing, bad if your whole body is in front and not an arm.

Is this relevant to USpol? Idk I�m sorry and interests me, but I think it is bc lol a bunch of 18-25 dorks playing soldier for Pennie�s bc we liked the era apparently get better by far safety training than hollywood people making more per day than us in a two week check.

We also went through far more safety training than US gun owners, I�m guessing. Seriously the amount of gun-owning friends who will just toss me a gun and be snarky and mocking when I check it, or don�t want to chamber a round or fire shots in the back yard- especially in my former and negated home of Texas- I think the gun is cool, as a piece of tech. I�m not gonna risk my life or yours because woah cool!

And for fucks sake don�t allow Uncle Dale to show up with a homespun blank, and regardless of your knowledge of how he makes his blanks or bullets, don�t let him show up with them, even if you trust him 100% to fire a blank into the air because you could suffer the .0001% chance. It�s a lethal weapon not a toy.

Would you let your kids play lightsaber if they were merely turned down burn lightsabers and not the full cut off limb version?

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Oct 5, 2023

# ? Oct 5, 2023 23:24

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

effortposts are generally very welcome

# ? Oct 5, 2023 23:26

Bel Shazar: Sep 14, 2012

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

We also went through far more safety training than US gun owners, I�m guessing. Seriously the amount of gun-owning friends who will just toss me a gun and be snarky and mocking when I check it, or don�t want to chamber a round or fire shots in the back yard- especially in my former and negated home of Texas- I think the gun is cool, as a piece of tech. I�m not gonna risk my life or yours because woah cool!

And for fucks sake don�t allow Uncle Dale to show up with a homespun blank, and regardless of your knowledge of how he makes his blanks or bullets, don�t let him show up with them, even if you trust him 100% to fire a blank into the air because you could suffer the .0001% chance. It�s a lethal weapon not a toy.

Would you let your kids play lightsaber if they were merely turned down burn lightsabers and not the full cut off limb version?

poo poo, I require my kids to clear any weapon I hand them even though they just watched me clear it to hand it to them. Every gun is loaded.

# ? Oct 5, 2023 23:35

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# ? May 23, 2024 23:25

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Would you let your kids play lightsaber if they were merely turned down burn lightsabers and not the full cut off limb version?

gently caress them kids, I'd play with it

# ? Oct 5, 2023 23:42

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