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Judgy Fucker posted:You don’t think running for President would expand his public profile at all? Really? "Really?" isn't an argument. Announcing you are running for president doesn't mean anyone cares who didn't care about you before, when you aren't actually running as someone with the possibility of winning. quote:And as far as leaving the Greens, that’s already been discussed. Maybe he is willing to take a hit so as to not be associated with charlatans? I'm not sure what you're responding to here. I didn't question why he isn't running for the Green party, I only said that not doing so will inherently mean he has less ballot access. quote:And I’m not sure what you mean by “take him seriously” because you’ve ascribed that position to me and would like clarification on what I purportedly believe. I didn't assume you believe anything beyond that you take him seriously. Do you not take him seriously? You're welcome to correct me if you don't. The fact is that the only real modern independent run for president came from Ross Perot who was wealthy and politically well-connected in a way that West absolutely is not, and who ran on basically a pragmatic populist economic policy that appealed to suburban centrists, which West isn't doing either. Xombie fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:America pre-1954 (closure of Ellis island) Keeping in mind, America is literally not even following it's own immigration policy. Many of these people aren't just workers seeking jobs, they are people seeking asylum, that we are legally required to let in, mostly from areas where we created the conditions they are seeking asylum from.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In a sort of "Lost Chapter from Catch-22" moment, Biden is calling the press into the Oval Office to condemn the new wall construction started by the Department of Homeland Security. you know, i did see the "roads, lights, and barriers" bit and got as far as wondering "huh i wonder how much wiggle room there is to emphasize the first two" but went down the other rabbit hole instead "Oh no now CBP will have roads to drive on" is considerably less bad than the other thing. Hell, if they're publicly usable roads, there might even be a little societal benefit there.
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James Garfield posted:I could believe that Cornel West just wanted to do a vanity campaign and wasn't prepared for the level of grift around "socialist professor launches presidential campaign". I mean Bernie Sanders had to have been better prepared, and he was running as a Democrat so legit people were actually offering to work with him, and he still fell for a bunch of grifters. (The vaccine review board thing)
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Don’t mean to cspam post, but this is what an intern getting a job offer looks like. https://twitter.com/senschumer/status/1710000440958505289?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA
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FlamingLiberal posted:Doesn’t that already exist? Yes, there are several federal entities that do this from various angles- arguably a couple of them have done more harm than good because they have facilitated antivaxxer arguments.
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PostNouveau posted:This whips. I'm voting West in 2024. Yeah that all looks extremely good. I don't agree with everything else on his platform, but you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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If voting for them causes Trump to win isn't that by definition letting perfect being the enemy of good?
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Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka have apparently been talking to other candidates and may be considering running for the nomination again themselves.quote:Boston - Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka: Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Yeah that all looks extremely good. I don't agree with everything else on his platform, but you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. It's a combination of nonsensical things, things requiring acts of Congress that won't pass, things the current administration is already doing, and vague things that may be horrifyingly destructive depending on what they mean. In a platform that also includes antivaxx and "disband NATO".
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka are have apparently been talking to other candidates and may be considering running for the nomination again themselves. I'm astonished. https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/status/1709985263592575406 Hopefully the Smartmatic Pillow is comfortable and of higher quality.
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zoux posted:I'm astonished. As long as it lets me securely vote from my bed I'm all for it.
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Shooting 12-year olds at weddings isn't a strange enough occurrence to even stop the wedding ceremony in Texas anymore. quote:Officiant fires gun to welcome bride, shoots grandson — and wedding goes on https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...gVxLU&itid=gfta
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Omaha is not in Texas, sir. In Texas we don't just wound members of the wedding party, we kill em dead.quote:“God wasn’t surprised by what happened that day,” Gardner said. “He made sure things were taken care of. He knew what we were going to need that day.” It was God's plan that I shoot my grandson at a wedding.
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zoux posted:Omaha is not in Texas, sir. In Texas we don't just wound members of the wedding party, we kill em dead. Doh, yeah. The shooter was from Texas, but he shot his grandson in Nebraska.
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I don't know a thing about guns, so like, what part of the cartridge hit the kid? I thought blanks didn't have the projectile bit
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In a sort of "Lost Chapter from Catch-22" moment, Biden is calling the press into the Oval Office to condemn the new wall construction started by the Department of Homeland Security. Biden unable to ignore the law when it continues his horrible trump-based border policy, but OK to ignore the law when it means loving over asylum seekers to continue his horrible trump-based border policy. Gee golly, his hands are tied.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I don't know a thing about guns, so like, what part of the cartridge hit the kid? I thought blanks didn't have the projectile bit The glue the moron filled the cartridge in with to keep the powder in.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I don't know a thing about guns, so like, what part of the cartridge hit the kid? I thought blanks didn't have the projectile bit There is a "wad" in blanks that holds the gunpowder that gets expelled that can be dangerous at close enough range (an actor was killed in the 80s by putting a gun with blanks up to his head and pulling the trigger). Also, this dude had some homemade blank made by god knows what process, so there are many ways he could have hosed it up and made a dangerous projectile.
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Brandon Lee got killed by a blank and so did that lady that Alec Baldwin shot, I think. https://twitter.com/stephen_neukam/status/1709938196711448995 I thought you guys said Scalise didn't have any balls.
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Yeah, most blanks use really soft things like a wad of paper, felt or cotton, that just can't do serious damage unless you put it directly to your temple or have a terrible accident at short range. Or you can have your buddy Dale Gribble make you some blanks and well, what's the worst that could happen?
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The Baldwin victim was killed by a live bullet that wasn’t supposed to be in the gun, IIRC
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haveblue posted:The Baldwin victim was killed by a live bullet that wasn’t supposed to be in the gun, IIRC Why was there a live bullet on set?
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Yeah Alec's gun had a real bullet.
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zoux posted:Brandon Lee got killed by a blank and so did that lady that Alec Baldwin shot, I think. As I recall, Lee died from a bullet jam. Projectile stuck in the gun, afterwards a blank was fired through the same gun that pushed the projectile out and killed him. Baldwin was like the guns were being live fired for funsies during breaks and the armorer both let that happen and didn't clear them properly inbetween takes. (insanely dangerous and stupid poo poo and why the original armorer quit I think and they brought some newbie in).
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zoux posted:Why was there a live bullet on set? The armorer was a nepotism hire and terrible at that, and had allowed crew to use the prop guns to plink after hours, and didn't bother to confirm they were clear afterward. Kalli posted:As I recall, Lee died from a bullet jam. Projectile stuck in the gun, afterwards a blank was fired through the same gun that pushed the projectile out and killed him. The gun in question had been in a scene earlier in which it someone appeared to be loading it, with what was supposed to be a dummy round but some idiot left the primer in, and subsequently it squibbed. This left a projectile in the barrel with it was subsequently loaded with blanks for Brandon's scene, which then fired the lodged round from where it lay in the barrel and killed him. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:The armorer was a nepotism hire and terrible at that, and had allowed crew to use the prop guns to plink after hours, and didn't bother to confirm they were clear afterward. Seems like a good way for someone to get killed
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Discendo Vox posted:It's a combination of nonsensical things, things requiring acts of Congress that won't pass, things the current administration is already doing, and vague things that may be horrifyingly destructive depending on what they mean. Like I said, it's not perfect but it's good enough for me. Disbanding NATO is also a plus for me, regardless of how feasible it might be. And I don't see what's nonsensical or destructive about the items in the quoted post. In any case, I'm just one vote in a reasonably safe blue state. I'd rather spend it on higher aspirations than what we've had for the last four years. Raenir Salazar posted:If voting for them causes Trump to win isn't that by definition letting perfect being the enemy of good? I wasn't planning on voting for Biden anyway, so no. He isn't owed my vote. Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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zoux posted:Seems like a good way for someone to get killed It is, as it turns out! More substantially, the armorer already had a bad reputation for not taking her job seriously. She'd sweep people routinely, fail to warn people when a weapon was going to be fired (one a previous job she'd nearly deafened Nick Cage by not telling him ahead of time that a gun was going to go off and so he'd not thought to put in ear protection), and by some accounts was regularly high/drunk on set. This was part of why the union crew members had already walked from the set. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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zoux posted:Seems like a good way for someone to get killed It was!
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https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1710032884860387788 I assume that the agents of every nation, hostile and friendly alike, who are embedded at MAL also heard some of this stuff.
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No problem, remember that the president has magical declassification powers that transcend time and space
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Discendo Vox posted:It's a combination of nonsensical things, things requiring acts of Congress that won't pass, things the current administration is already doing, and vague things that may be horrifyingly destructive depending on what they mean. Odd that he left the Green Party seeing as how they keep jumping on that bandwagon. zoux posted:https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1710032884860387788 I'm really going to be surprised if it turns out Donald Trump didn't sell, or try to sell, classified information.
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Angry_Ed posted:I'm really going to be surprised if it turns out Donald Trump didn't sell, or try to sell, classified information. In order to sell classified information you need to be able to keep your mouth shut for five minutes.
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Ratoslov posted:In order to sell classified information you need to be able to keep your mouth shut for five minutes. I'm reminded of how, during WWI, some in the Russian Ohkrana (the tsarist secret police), suspected Rasputin might be a paid German agent, but in reality there'd be no reason to pay him at all as he was a drunken loudmouth who loved boasting about all the secret/important poo poo he got to see whenever he visited Tsarskoe Selo and whatnot. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Ratoslov posted:In order to sell classified information you need to be able to keep your mouth shut for five minutes. Yeah, a real “why buy the cow” situation
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zoux posted:Seems like a good way for someone to get killed I did 19th century reenactment and we used the least lethal blanks ever. The handheld gun ammo were half a surplus shotgun shell never filled with powder to eject the thing and be a 1860s first generation breed loader clinking bits everywhere, and some powder in paper. We had to extensively practice safety over and over and over and clear the breach and barrel every time we put it down and picked it up, as well as practicing over and over to know by heart when the metal half shell didn’t eject. These would burn the hell out of anyone a few dozen feet in front of the shot. The cartridge would only ever burn you if it got stuck and you shot again. The cannon were loaded with a full one pound of black powder in a burlap sack. It would incinerate the sack and spew sparks and tons of smoke out the barrel and make the cannon do an ear-protection-mandatory boom. Those ejected nothing, but spewed even more and longer distance burning poo poo. We still swabbed the barrel like a real 19th-century RA battery between each shot, for realism, and because leftover powder in there is bad even if it’s not catastrophic. A pound of powder in a a 24 pounder is a lot. That’s when you stick a big wet stick in and then a big sponge to clean out powder then water so the thing doesn’t blow up in your face. Idk how bad it is to stand in front but famous miniature wargame sculptor Matthew Perry lost a hand because he didn’t stand far enough behind the barrel after loading in such a re-enactment, so I’m guessing, bad if your whole body is in front and not an arm. Is this relevant to USpol? Idk I’m sorry and interests me, but I think it is bc lol a bunch of 18-25 dorks playing soldier for Pennie’s bc we liked the era apparently get better by far safety training than hollywood people making more per day than us in a two week check. We also went through far more safety training than US gun owners, I’m guessing. Seriously the amount of gun-owning friends who will just toss me a gun and be snarky and mocking when I check it, or don’t want to chamber a round or fire shots in the back yard- especially in my former and negated home of Texas- I think the gun is cool, as a piece of tech. I’m not gonna risk my life or yours because woah cool! And for fucks sake don’t allow Uncle Dale to show up with a homespun blank, and regardless of your knowledge of how he makes his blanks or bullets, don’t let him show up with them, even if you trust him 100% to fire a blank into the air because you could suffer the .0001% chance. It’s a lethal weapon not a toy. Would you let your kids play lightsaber if they were merely turned down burn lightsabers and not the full cut off limb version? Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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effortposts are generally very welcome
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:We also went through far more safety training than US gun owners, I’m guessing. Seriously the amount of gun-owning friends who will just toss me a gun and be snarky and mocking when I check it, or don’t want to chamber a round or fire shots in the back yard- especially in my former and negated home of Texas- I think the gun is cool, as a piece of tech. I’m not gonna risk my life or yours because woah cool! poo poo, I require my kids to clear any weapon I hand them even though they just watched me clear it to hand it to them. Every gun is loaded.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:
gently caress them kids, I'd play with it
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