Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Oct 3, 2023

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Oct 3, 2023

• everyone needs to pay more!;
  
• don't worry people who ordered non-English versions, they'll send PDFs so they can print the version they want;
  
• their "original plan" had people paying $30 for each expansion, but thanks to how clever they are people will only have to pay $13*;
  _{*plus shipping, which has not been announced} and
  
• the reason for the increased costs is unexpected costs because of the war in Ukraine, COVID-19 and inflation, plus shipping rates are up (last mile only, they admit sea shipments are actually way back down from when they sought the last contribution).
  

• The reasons for the price hike omits, "the millions collected were spent on other things";
  
• The "original plan" costs are nonsense, purely designed to make the cash grab more palatable. Under that plan, the Crimson Court expansion would require a contribution of $34. They sell this on their webstore for $70, and they have 50% off sales regularly. Production cost of a board game typically around 25% of the retail price, so that contribution would match to a box that has a retail price of around $136. Looking at the reduced rate and typical pricing, they're basically admitting that people are paying for the entirety of production, not just increased costs. Which goes to the point above, and bizarrely they admitted this was the case for 6siege but for whatever reason decided to lie about it this time;
  
• And on that last point, they are still overcharging for the Wave 2 components. Without a doubt, this is because backers already paid an extra contribution for these items which has to be deducted. So what they're doing is pricing the cost of production, adding the amount already contributed, setting that as the number and then deducting that amount for backers who have already paid;
  
• Those who ordered the non-English versions are being utterly screwed. These contributors have received nothing so far. They're now going to get the English version. For the privilege of getting something they didn't order, two years after other people got the first parts, they get to pay more than the English speakers did.;
  
• Inflation will have increased costs, but they made the decision to delay half of production;
  
• Last mile shipping costs are used to justify the contribution, even though they admit that sea shipping has gone way, way down in costs and they already collected extra on the basis of high sea shipping. And everyone already paid full shipping, plus extra for shipping. But nevermind that, they're using shipping costs to justify this extra contribution, yet shipping costs are above and beyond the extra contribution;
  
• Mythic is still processing refunds from July 2022, namely from the day of the first contribution request. It's a total lie at this point to tell people at this point there's any possibility of a refund; and
  
• They tell players that if they don't get the minimum contributions, they will be refunded immediately. Of course, they told players last time that if they paid their contribution request (which included the stuff they're now proposing to ship).

Maneck fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Oct 6, 2023