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Lobok posted:I think non-superhero Gwen is just screwed because even if you, as the writer of some new adaptation, choose to include her and have no plans to kill her, everyone is going to be expecting her to die. I mean, you're not wrong, but just because everyone expects the shoe to drop doesn't mean it has to. Some crazy bastard just has to actually write a Gwen that doesn't die and doesn't get powers. ...but crucially, then they'll have to get hired by Marvel and run their ideas past them. So, you know, it'll never happen!  idk, maybe Spider-Verse's message about how canon events are bullshit will get through some thick editiorial/executive skulls
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Oct 9, 2023 03:23
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TwoPair posted:I mean, you're not wrong, but just because everyone expects the shoe to drop doesn't mean it has to. Some crazy bastard just has to actually write a Gwen that doesn't die and doesn't get powers. They can but the major issue there is going to be "why" due to the aforementioned Mary Jane thing. Anyone growing up on Spider-Man in the past 40 years has grown up with Mary Jane as Peter's designated love interest with a small side helping of one of the worst attempts at retconning that in modern comic history. You have to go back to the 70s Spider-Man to find anyone who really cares about Gwen Stacy and further still to find a way to portray Gwen Stacy in a way people will care about for anything but her name. It's like really wanting Clark Kent to end up with Lana Lang. Sure, you can, but you're fighting against a looooot of weight with very little support. Even the Marvel editors don't want Mary Jane to be replaced by Gwen, they just want Peter to be a Swinging Single.
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Oct 9, 2023 03:31
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I can really understand the writers at marvel wanting to go back to a Peter Parker being pulled between multiple potential love interests, that's an easy source of angst, and it helped keep the action going for Peter's social life in the earlier days. It doesn't help that generally a lot of stories, superhero comics especially, just aren't interested in long-term stable relationships. That's one of the reasons there as a plan in the 90s to swap out to a new Spiderman, so Peter Parker could become just a normal family man, but the clone saga went really badly.
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Oct 9, 2023 03:38
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SlothfulCobra posted:I can really understand the writers at marvel wanting to go back to a Peter Parker being pulled between multiple potential love interests, that's an easy source of angst, and it helped keep the action going for Peter's social life in the earlier days. I don't think it was always that way. It's just harder to write but you've already ended up with the issue where past a certain point you're going to have to commit or nobody is going to care because the character is going to vanish in a week and romance without catharsis or resolution is deeply unsatisfying in an ongoing story. Eventually you're going to hit the jackpot (lol) and find a character that people really like and you can only will they/won't they for so long before people get annoyed.
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Oct 9, 2023 03:41
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TwoPair posted:I mean, you're not wrong, but just because everyone expects the shoe to drop doesn't mean it has to. No but then the question is why include her? She now has two major and totally opposite developments hanging over her if she shows up and so to use neither it's like, is the point just to tease the audience the whole time? Or just prove a point? It's why I said she's screwed because the last chances we had to have an alive Gwen failed, and then Spider-Gwen became a thing afterward so it's over now. If the desire is to have a love interest who doesn't die or become a Spider-hero, there are plenty of other choices or original characters to use. And that's assuming, as someone else just mentioned, you can escape MJ's gravity anyway.
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Oct 9, 2023 04:08
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SlothfulCobra posted:I can really understand the writers at marvel wanting to go back to a Peter Parker being pulled between multiple potential love interests, that's an easy source of angst, and it helped keep the action going for Peter's social life in the earlier days. I mean it worked in the Spectacular Spider-Man series, mind you, but that was coming out when the Raimi films were recent and you hadn't had the MCU movies, the Spider-Verse movies, and the PS4 games all reinforcing MJ as the endgame. Lobok posted:No but then the question is why include her? She now has two major and totally opposite developments hanging over her if she shows up and so to use neither it's like, is the point just to tease the audience the whole time? Or just prove a point? It's why I said she's screwed because the last chances we had to have an alive Gwen failed, and then Spider-Gwen became a thing afterward so it's over now.
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Oct 9, 2023 21:21
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You just reminded me that 616 Chat was introduced in one of the quickly canceled Spider comics like a decade ago and hasn't been seen since 
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Oct 11, 2023 11:05
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eternaldough posted:I really liked/like The Batman cartoon from 2005(6?4?). The theme song from the first two seasons I thought was the coolest thing in the world. I honestly was really against the second opening because it was so different and I didnt want to accept it, but its honestly really good too. All together I also just really like the look and feel of everything, and Catwoman's design in this show is my fav of all her animated appearances. As a hardcore DCAU fan I was bitterly against the first season of that show and gradually warmed to it, eventually watching all of season 2 through 5(?). It was pretty good, had a Jackie Chan adventures feel to it because of some of the same ppl who worked on it. One of the most unusual takes on the Joker. But hey, you're not gonna do better than Mark Hammil so gotta try something different. The Dracula Batman movie was fun.
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Oct 12, 2023 01:47
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Ccs posted:As a hardcore DCAU fan I was bitterly against the first season of that show and gradually warmed to it, eventually watching all of season 2 through 5(?). It was pretty good, had a Jackie Chan adventures feel to it because of some of the same ppl who worked on it. One of the most unusual takes on the Joker. But hey, you're not gonna do better than Mark Hammil so gotta try something different. It's a good show and did a lot of neat things. But it definitely received a lot of hate for not being Batman TAS or the DCAU.
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Oct 12, 2023 02:00
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Been a while since I watched The Batman but I've praised its version of Poison Ivy in here before. She isn't just a sexy femme fatale with plant tentacles, she looks more plant-like and has cooler powers. I also like its Batgirl, which is related cuz they have a backstory together in this. It's a lot more unique than what they do with Dick which is the same old story. Also, not terribly related, but I remember instantly thinking when I heard Firefly "that is Garrett from Extreme Ghosbusters." And I think Batman is actually Eduardo from EG, too. Man, little me loved Extreme Ghosbusters. Long before everyone complained about poo poo being "woke" they made a show where a bunch of white guys were replaced by an African-American, a Latino, a guy in a wheelchair, and a Goth girl. But nobody cared or whined cuz it was good.
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Oct 12, 2023 03:56
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NikkolasKing posted:Also, not terribly related, but I remember instantly thinking when I heard Firefly "that is Garrett from Extreme Ghosbusters." And I think Batman is actually Eduardo from EG, too. Man, little me loved Extreme Ghosbusters. Long before everyone complained about poo poo being "woke" they made a show where a bunch of white guys were replaced by an African-American, a Latino, a guy in a wheelchair, and a Goth girl. But nobody cared or whined cuz it was good. Oh, they did. There were bitter Ghostbusters fans already by that point. There just wasn't a convenient soapbox for them to get their opinions to the larger audiences, since the Internet was less universal.
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Oct 12, 2023 08:30
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Suleman posted:Oh, they did. There were bitter Ghostbusters fans already by that point. There just wasn't a convenient soapbox for them to get their opinions to the larger audiences, since the Internet was less universal. Less Universal, more Columbia.
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Oct 12, 2023 12:23
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Argue posted:You just reminded me that 616 Chat was introduced in one of the quickly canceled Spider comics like a decade ago and hasn't been seen since It was Anya's Spider-Girl series, (also by Tobin) IIRC. The same one that killed off her (Anya's) dad in the first arc. We never did find out what the deal was with her sister.
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Oct 17, 2023 20:00
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Opening credits for Scott Pilgrim Takes Off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKvNcDaoYpA
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Oct 31, 2023 23:00
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They really just said "gently caress it, it's an anime now"
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Nov 1, 2023 00:25
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:They really just said "gently caress it, it's an anime now" Ehh, did you read the comic?
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Nov 1, 2023 03:00
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:They really just said "gently caress it, it's an anime now" AstronautsAlwaysWays.jpg.
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Nov 1, 2023 14:35
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Air Skwirl posted:Ehh, did you read the comic? I was expecting an animated series with heavy anime influences, in the same way the comic is an western comic with heavy manga (and video game) influences. I was not expecting a full anime opening with a Japanese pop song, and it kinda owns tbh.
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Nov 1, 2023 17:13
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I was expecting an animated series with heavy anime influences, in the same way the comic is an western comic with heavy manga (and video game) influences. The studio is Science Saru. It was always going to be anime. And not just anime but anime as gently caress.
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Nov 1, 2023 23:49
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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1725197642181853516
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Nov 16, 2023 18:36
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didn't even know season 5 wasn't a go already
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Nov 16, 2023 19:15
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Can't say I'm actually excited anymore. Last season was real bad.
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Nov 16, 2023 20:01
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Wasn’t there supposed to be a Kite Man spinoff coming at some point as well?
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Nov 16, 2023 20:09
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Nanigans posted:Can't say I'm actually excited anymore. Last season was real bad. Yeah I stopped watching it halfway through. Kinda feels like it's worn out its welcome.
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Nov 16, 2023 20:20
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Larryb posted:Wasn’t there supposed to be a Kite Man spinoff coming at some point as well? Hell Yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPiSFDIKHEM
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Nov 16, 2023 20:39
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Nanigans posted:Can't say I'm actually excited anymore. Last season was real bad. Honestly, I agree. I will probably still watch it,. since there's still a chance for it to be good again, but I wouldn't have felt particularly bad if that was it.
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Nov 17, 2023 00:28
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Yeah. I’ll wait until it’s all out and see if people liked it. But it’s not appointment viewing anymore. That Very Merry Batman looks cute but I hate Damian on principle so
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Nov 17, 2023 02:49
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Nanigans posted:Yeah. I’ll wait until it’s all out and see if people liked it. But it’s not appointment viewing anymore. Based off the trailer that version of Damian definitely seems to only really have in common with other versions him being named Damian and being Bruce Wayne's biological son
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Nov 17, 2023 03:08
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That’s kinda my problem with Damian in the first place. Bruce has enough sons. They didn’t need to make him a “real” father. Sends kind of a weird message to adopted kids imo.
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Nov 17, 2023 03:29
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drrockso20 posted:Based off the trailer that version of Damian definitely seems to only really have in common with other versions him being named Damian and being Bruce Wayne's biological son Yeah, it seems like its missing the element of him being a little poo poo, which sort of justifies the character, since you can at least do something interesting with that.
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Nov 17, 2023 03:48
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Nanigans posted:That’s kinda my problem with Damian in the first place. Bruce has enough sons. They didn’t need to make him a “real” father. Sends kind of a weird message to adopted kids imo. Way I see it part of Damian's role is to specifically refute that line of thought, affirming that the previous Robins(and Cass) are just as much Bruce's kids as he is(indeed the Bat Family in the form the fandom tends to like the best only really begins solidifying after Damian becomes Robin)
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Nov 17, 2023 03:51
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It's great that Bruce's biological kid is a little poo poo.
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Nov 17, 2023 04:00
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How about I also really like Tim (best Robin) and Damian so totally usurped his role to the point that Tim kinda had no identity for years. Is he Red Robin? Is he Drake? Was this addition necessary in any way? Hell, Tim doesn't even seem to exist in the Harley series in favor of Damian and Dick. I'm never gonna like Damian as a concept. Though I can appreciate when writers try to make it work, I think it's a concept that's flawed from the jump.
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Nov 17, 2023 04:43
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Nanigans posted:How about I also really like Tim (best Robin) and Damian so totally usurped his role to the point that Tim kinda had no identity for years. Is he Red Robin? Is he Drake? Was this addition necessary in any way? Hell, Tim doesn't even seem to exist in the Harley series in favor of Damian and Dick. Does Jason exist in HQ?
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Nov 17, 2023 04:46
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NikkolasKing posted:Does Jason exist in HQ? Yeah. "Red Hood" can be seen as one of Harley's contacts on her phone, and there's several mentions of the Joker beating him up with the crowbar. Tim technically exists but also only ever appeared in a flashback in Bats' mind, and has since retired as Robin. Sucks.
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Nov 17, 2023 04:51
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Edit: Nevermind
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Nov 17, 2023 05:09
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Larryb posted:Has Dick/Nightwing been in HQ for that matter? Not trying to be a dick (ha), but did you watch the previous season or the one before that? He was one of the main characters. Big plot points surrounding him. Nanigans fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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Nov 17, 2023 05:15
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Ah right, nevermind then
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Nanigans posted:Not trying to be a dick (ha), but did you watch the previous season or the one before that? He was one of the main characters. Big plot points surrounding him. you could have just said yes
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