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Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

RandomBlue posted:

sending in our top negotiator to resolve this situation



the good kush

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studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

tristeham posted:

im guessing it's his whole personality. he's comparing hamas to the nazis now

surprised they didnt make him an admin

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
Are republicans really going to cast aside their fervent antisemitic base???

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

studio mujahideen posted:

him doing his weird lying by omission bit really loving sucks when its justifying palestinian genocide

lyin leon

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Al! posted:

dude they cut off their water supply

the libs have assured me they didn't really need that water or power from Israel

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023
edit: thought better of it, this doesn't need to keep going

Engorged Pedipalps has issued a correction as of 02:39 on Oct 10, 2023

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

Frosted Flake posted:

I don't even know how to deal with talking points like this



tell them that Arabs owned 94% of the land before 1948, so who loving cares who was administrating the region

speng31b
May 8, 2010

I know this is hypocritical bc i love to complain about d&d as much as the next poster but let's try not just to make this a d&d mock thread. there are at least 3 other threads for that in cspam. a little complaining is ok but it shouldn't be this threads whole deal

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


:lol: at all western media going “Hamas says it will kill hostages if Israel doesn’t stop bombings in Gaza!” ignoring the rest of the demand which is “stop bombing civilians without giving them a warning so they can flee the area”

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Frosted Flake posted:

“The higher you climb, the harder you fall, says the English adage. And, indeed, on 6 October a serene and self-confident Israel tumbled from a mountain of illusions down to the ground of reality. The trauma was severe. Suddenly Israelis opened their eyes and discovered that dogmas, ‘sacred cows’ and other ‘unshakeable truths’ had been smashed on the rocks of reality. The Yom Kippur War could also be called the ‘War of Disillusionment’. One of the reasons for the gloom that afflicted Israelis after the war was the shattering of myths to which they had become enslaved. It became clear that the characteristic that Israelis had attributed to the Arabs – self-delusion – had struck deep roots within the Israelis themselves.

Although the myths were destroyed, they were not replaced by any changes in the approach to Israel–Arab relations. That would require self-criticism and a radical change in the composition of the leadership and its ideology, which were not quick to come, despite the transformations that occurred after the war.”

Not by Omission: The Case of the 1973 Arab–Israeli War
Amnon Kapeliouk

this kind of feels like the farce version of the yom kippur war yeah lol

ohrwurm
Jun 25, 2003


that’s a succlib bingo

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

speng31b posted:

I know this is hypocritical bc i love to complain about d&d as much as the next poster but let's try not just to make this a d&d mock thread. there are at least 3 other threads for that in cspam. a little complaining is ok but it shouldn't be this threads whole deal

Inquiring news for speng31b - fizzy is puzzled as to why merely quoting a post, verbatim word for word, is regarded as an act of "mockery".

papersack
Jul 27, 2003


Donald the Deliverer.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

fizzy posted:

Inquiring news for speng31b - fizzy is puzzled as to why merely quoting a post, verbatim word for word, is regarded as an act of "mockery".

idc about quoting it's just a vibe thing. if the thread becomes more about d&d than other ip stuff then that's going to eventually become a problem

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020

Al-Saqr posted:

from here on out there is no middle ground, there is no more fence sitting, youre either with humanity and freedom or your with apartheid nazis, from here on its time for the israeli apartheid state to be put in the trashbin of history, they deserve everything thats coming to them. they thought they can commit genocide and wipe out the palestinians well guess what sweetiecakes youre gonna get whats coming. youre gonna get what youve had coming for eighty years of destroying the lives of millions of people, all of you pussy libs can shut the gently caress up and white devils step aside, real deal anti apartheid action is coming.

Freedom for palestine! Death to apartheid! death to Israel! JUSTICE. FREEDOM. HUMANITY.

Allahu akbar! allahu akbar! allahu akbar!

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bad news for residents of the Gaza Strip - Israel is continuing its air strikes in the Gaza Strip as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that Israel’s response to Hamas’ massacre in Israel on Saturday “will reverberate with them for generations.”


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-strikes-in-gaza-enter-4th-day/

Israeli strikes in Gaza enter 4th day
By TOI STAFF
Today, 4:14 am

Israel is continuing its air strikes in the Gaza Strip as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that Israel’s response to Hamas’ massacre in Israel on Saturday “will reverberate with them for generations.”

Earlier, Hebrew media reported that Israel hit 1,707 targets in Gaza since Saturday, including 475 rocket systems, 73 command centers, 23 strategic infrastructure sites and 22 underground targets.

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bad news for residents of Kfar Aza, Kibbutz Sa’ad, Kibbutz Alumim, and Nahal Oz - Sirens warning of incoming rocket fire are blaring in Kfar Aza, Kibbutz Sa’ad, Kibbutz Alumim, and Nahal Oz.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/sirens-blare-across-communities-near-gaza-strip/

Sirens blare across communities near Gaza Strip
By TOI STAFF
Today, 4:14 am

Sirens warning of incoming rocket fire are blaring in southern Israel.

The Red Alert sirens are heard in Kfar Aza, Kibbutz Sa’ad, Kibbutz Alumim, and Nahal Oz.


The sirens came moments after Israeli security forces killed at least one Palestinian terrorist near the Kibbutz Sa’ad overnight in an exchange of gunfire.

According to initial reports by Channel 12, security forces spotted a suspicious vehicle near the Gaza area community. It had crossed from Gaza into Israel, according to the report.

Forces opened fire, killing at least one terrorist, the report says.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
so Hamas threatened to kill hostages in response to bombings, right? did they announce anything about that?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

fizzy posted:

Bad news for residents of the Gaza Strip - Israel is continuing its air strikes in the Gaza Strip as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that Israel’s response to Hamas’ massacre in Israel on Saturday “will reverberate with them for generations.”


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-strikes-in-gaza-enter-4th-day/

Israeli strikes in Gaza enter 4th day
By TOI STAFF
Today, 4:14 am

Israel is continuing its air strikes in the Gaza Strip as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that Israel’s response to Hamas’ massacre in Israel on Saturday “will reverberate with them for generations.”

Earlier, Hebrew media reported that Israel hit 1,707 targets in Gaza since Saturday, including 475 rocket systems, 73 command centers, 23 strategic infrastructure sites and 22 underground targets.

Rocket system: home roof with drain pipe
Command centre: shop
Strategic infrastructure site: large shop
Underground target: someone's basement

If you just blow up a whole tower that's 4 points added to your score.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Malleum posted:

you shouldnt sleep on the d&d thread, theres an honest to god hasbra reg that bought an account this morning to defend israels e-honor lmao

lol i almost didnt believe this was real and had to go look. it is.

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
"the Arabs understand only force" is some major-league projection from Israelis

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003


the only good kush is a smoked one

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

hmm this is Bernie Sanders all over again.

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022

Al-Saqr posted:

from here on out there is no middle ground, there is no more fence sitting, youre either with humanity and freedom or your with apartheid nazis, from here on its time for the israeli apartheid state to be put in the trashbin of history, they deserve everything thats coming to them. they thought they can commit genocide and wipe out the palestinians well guess what sweetiecakes youre gonna get whats coming. youre gonna get what youve had coming for eighty years of destroying the lives of millions of people, all of you pussy libs can shut the gently caress up and white devils step aside, real deal anti apartheid action is coming.

Freedom for palestine! Death to apartheid! death to Israel! JUSTICE. FREEDOM. HUMANITY.

Allahu akbar! allahu akbar! allahu akbar!

Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005

:buddy:



Grimey Drawer

fizzy posted:

Israel hit 1,707 targets in Gaza since Saturday

Jesus Christ

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

fizzy posted:

Bad news for residents of the Gaza Strip - Israel is continuing its air strikes in the Gaza Strip as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that Israel’s response to Hamas’ massacre in Israel on Saturday “will reverberate with them for generations.”


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-strikes-in-gaza-enter-4th-day/

Israeli strikes in Gaza enter 4th day
By TOI STAFF
Today, 4:14 am

Israel is continuing its air strikes in the Gaza Strip as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that Israel’s response to Hamas’ massacre in Israel on Saturday “will reverberate with them for generations.”

Earlier, Hebrew media reported that Israel hit 1,707 targets in Gaza since Saturday, including 475 rocket systems, 73 command centers, 23 strategic infrastructure sites and 22 underground targets.

Very normal human response to "terrorists", proudly proclaiming the small open air prison you keep the minority population in that they will have generational death and destruction in return for something the millions of people have no control over.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Why was there a rave concert in front of a concentration camp?

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

Al! posted:

the situation is bad but they will be stopped, Palestine will win

that's right

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Raccooon posted:

Why was there a rave concert in front of a concentration camp?

it was one of the many activities that were disrupted by anti-genocide forces

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Raccooon posted:

Why was there a rave concert in front of a concentration camp?

It was a musical celebration of good taste.

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bad news for Hamas - The US’s top general has warned Iran not to get involved in the Israel-Hamas war, saying he did not want the conflict to “broaden” any further.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-live-news-israel-orders-complete-siege-of-gaza-strip

US warns Iran not to get involved in Israel war
31m ago (01:29 GMT)

The US’s top general has warned Iran not to get involved in the Israel-Hamas war, saying he did not want the conflict to “broaden” any further.

General Charles Q Brown, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when asked what his message for Iran was, said: “Not to get involved.”

He added that the US deployment of an aircraft carrier near Israel was intended as a “strong message of support” for the country. “But it’s also to send a strong message of deterrence to contain broadening this particular conflict,” he told reporters.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Raccooon posted:

Why was there a rave concert in front of a concentration camp?

because those people didnt give a gently caress and most likely didnt even consider the existence of the palestinian peoples in their consciousness

its literally the only way you can even go to a loving music drug fest to party the gently caress out while millions of people are living in a loving concentration camp just a couple of km away

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


Raccooon posted:

Why was there a rave concert in front of a concentration camp?

first burning man and then this. rough year for desert drug fests

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bad news for Palestinian-Americans who were visiting Gaza - As bombs rained down on Gaza on Monday, Palestinian-Americans visiting or living there said they were desperately trying to find ways out of the region but have received little or no support from US Embassy officials even though they are US citizens.


https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-attack-10-09-23/index.html

Palestinian-Americans stuck in Gaza feel trapped, abandoned by US Embassy
From CNN’s Yahya Abou-Ghazala
31 min ago

As bombs rained down on Gaza on Monday, Palestinian-Americans visiting or living there said they were desperately trying to find ways out of the region but have received little or no support from US Embassy officials even though they are US citizens.

Meanwhile, they said they were told by the US Embassy that the routes out of the Gaza Strip had been narrowed down to one: A passage through Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, which reportedly had been halted for a period of time Monday because of bombing activity.

A new security alert from the US Embassy on Monday read, in part, “U.S. citizens in Gaza who wish to leave and can do so safely are advised to check the status of the Rafah Crossing into Egypt.”

Said Shaath, 64, of Fresno, California, who is working in the humanitarian sector in Gaza, said US Embassy officials told one of his cousins to make his way to the Egypt border crossing, if he could do so safely.

"I don’t know what 'safely' means? We are living in Rimal, it’s very risky to drive all the way to south Rafah terminal,” he said. “This is not secure because along the way there is a chance that you will be targeted," given the constant barrage of Israeli airstrikes. Under normal circumstances, the drive from Rimal to the Rafah crossing can take up to an hour.

A CNN reporter on the phone with Shaath could hear loud explosions from the bombardment throughout the discussions.

"My house is shaking. I swear to God the pillars in my house are cracking," Shaath said.

Lena Beseiso, 57, of Salt Lake City, Utah, described the terror of being trapped: "It hurts, you jump out of your skin thinking this is the last breath."

Beseiso – who had not been to Gaza in 12 years – traveled there in late March to visit and spend time with her husband, daughters, niece, and grandson. She too is frustrated by the lack of options given by the US government after repeatedly calling the US Embassy emergency lines to seek help evacuating.

"When we finally got somebody on the phone, we were pleading. [My daughters] were practically crying saying they needed their assistance," she said. A woman on the line said she couldn't help them, Beseiso added.

"She just kept saying, 'Sorry, we were not notified to help you, we were not given any information to assist you,'" Beseiso said. "She kept on telling the girls this emergency line is for Israel."

CNN calls to the US Embassy in Jerusalem Monday evening were directed to the branch office in Tel Aviv. A person who answered there told CNN they were advised not to comment beyond what was published on the Embassy website.

In response to a CNN query, a State Department spokesperson said, “We continue to closely monitor the dynamic security situation,” and referred U.S. citizens to their website, travel.state.gov, for assistance.

Abdulla Okal, 34, is watching the drama unfold from his family’s home in New Jersey. His wife, Haneen, and their three young children – ages 8, 2 and 2 months – are stuck in Gaza. All of them are US citizens.

"I don’t know what to do, to be honest," Okal told CNN. "This is the first time my wife and my kids are far from me, and it’s war, it’s a real war."

Okal said his wife called the US Embassy on Saturday, and they gave her a link to fill out an application form and told her to wait for a callback. She called again Monday after not hearing back, Okal said, and was told that they wouldn’t be able to help her soon but that they would keep her posted.

She hasn’t heard anything else, her husband said.

Okal is desperate and says the thought of his family traveling to the last remaining crossing in Rafah is scary: "It's really dangerous, you’re going from the north all the way to the south... the routes are bombed, there are huge holes, the cars can’t even drive on it."

The State Department has long warned Americans against travel to Gaza "due to terrorism, civil unrest, and armed conflict."

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

appointing General Charlie Brown is just asking for disappointment

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

im attending the next rave

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Good news for people seeking to hear from US President Joe Biden - President Joe Biden will deliver remarks on the conflict in Israel on Tuesday


https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-attack-10-09-23/index.html

Biden to deliver remarks Tuesday on Israel, official says
From CNN's Arlette Saenz
3 hr 19 min ago

President Joe Biden will deliver remarks on the conflict in Israel on Tuesday, a White House official says. The address is expected to be around 1 p.m. ET.

This will mark the second time Biden will speak on camera about the attacks since Hamas launched its deadly assault Saturday.

Earlier Monday: Biden spoke with the leaders of France, Germany, Italy and the United Kingdom. The allies expressed “steadfast and united support” for Israel and “unequivocal condemnation” of Hamas and, “its appalling acts of terrorism," the countries said in a joint statement.

The US president also said at least 11 Americans were killed in the Hamas attacks and others are likely being held as hostages.

CNN's Nikki Carvajal contributed reporting to this post.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

fizzy posted:

Bad news for Hamas - The US’s top general has warned Iran not to get involved in the Israel-Hamas war, saying he did not want the conflict to “broaden” any further.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-live-news-israel-orders-complete-siege-of-gaza-strip

US warns Iran not to get involved in Israel war
31m ago (01:29 GMT)

The US’s top general has warned Iran not to get involved in the Israel-Hamas war, saying he did not want the conflict to “broaden” any further.

General Charles Q Brown, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when asked what his message for Iran was, said: “Not to get involved.”

He added that the US deployment of an aircraft carrier near Israel was intended as a “strong message of support” for the country. “But it’s also to send a strong message of deterrence to contain broadening this particular conflict,” he told reporters.

“hold me back bro,,” the general said, adding, “you don’t want to mess with me.”

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I'm going to crystal ball this one:

Accelerated total ethnic cleansing through bombing, starvation, etc. To the last person. This will be celebrated and reported as a good thing, actually.

Anyone not on board with this will be treated like a traitor at worst, a fool at best.

Mediaeval geopolitical solutions are back. Gibbets too, probably.

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fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Good news for people concerned about further escalation - There is no intention to send US troops into Israel in the wake of the horrific attacks over the weekend, the White House said Monday.


https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-attack-10-09-23/index.html

US has no intention of putting troops on the ground in Israel, White House says
From CNN's Nikki Carvajal
3 hr 40 min ago

There is no intention to send US troops into Israel in the wake of the horrific attacks over the weekend, the White House said Monday.

“There's no intention to put US boots on the ground,” National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby told reporters in a call Monday.

But, he said, Biden would “always make sure that we are protecting and defending our national security interests wherever those interests are, including, particularly in that part of the world. And I think I'll leave it at that.”

Kirby added that the first tranche of additional US security assistance to Israel in response to the attacks was on the way as of Monday evening.

“I don't believe it's actually made it to Israel yet, it's making its way there,” he said. “We fully expect that there will be additional requests for security systems from Israel as they continue to expend munitions in this fight, and we will stay in lockstep with them.”

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