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Watching those videos of the Palestinians entering Be'eri, contrasting it with videos of the carnage in Gaza, and thinking about these teens and 20-somethings encountering for the first time, not just Israelis, but what Israel has built outside their open-air prison, I'm reminded of this passage in Roots: “The first time he had taken the massa to one of these "high-falutin' to-dos," as Bell called them, Kunta had been all but overwhelmed by conflicting emotions: awe, indignation, envy, contempt, fascination, revulsion—but most of all a deep loneliness and melancholy from which it took him almost a week to recover. He couldn't believe that such incredible wealth actually existed, that people really lived that way. It took him a long time, and a great many more parties, to realize that they didn't live that way, that it was all strangely unreal, a kind of beautiful dream the white folks were having, a lie they were telling themselves: that goodness can come from badness, that it's possible to be civilized with one another without treating as human beings those whose blood, sweat, and mother's milk made possible the life of privilege they led.” carcinofuck has issued a correction as of 08:41 on Oct 11, 2023 |
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Reminds me of Red Army soldiers first entering East Prussia and seeing what sort of luxury the average german peasant lived in
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30.5 Days posted:idk how people feel about podcast talk but there is a new chapo trap house that is an interview with a guy named Mohammad Alsaafin who is an AJ+ reporter (https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/771-the-crossing-feat-mohammad-alsaafin-101023) thank you for transcribing this quote
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No matter how war randy Biden gets I don't see what he can do about any of this. A handful of jets flying from a carrier bombing the same rubble the idf has been bombing all day isn't going to matter. The carrier and sending supposed secret weapons seem like pure PR. America doesn't have shells or missiles to send. It's not going to put troops on the ground. For that matter what could America even do against Iran. America is spread all the gently caress over the place and even bombing weddings was getting harder. They could fling some cruise missiles to 'send a message' at best. An invasion seems so impossibly beyond what current American can do they'd be better off invading mars.
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CODChimera posted:you have to imagine the US does _something_ to increase ammo production yeah they'll make (insert european country) send theirs
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oil prices might reach 100$ a barrell soon https://twitter.com/ajarabic/status/1712011405648421052?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 08:51 on Oct 11, 2023 |
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BULBASAUR posted:yeah they'll make (insert european country) send theirs Yeah, its too bad they sent them to the Ost front. At best, they will just hand over whatever they are producing for the Ukrainians to the Israelis and the Ukrainians will be told not to "negotiate no matter what."
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Modern reimagining where al-saqr is in bibi's philly house, marveling at his tabletop room
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Something maybe happening again in Sderot as Israel hands out 27k guns to settlers in the town. Fascist genocidal minister can't leave  https://twitter.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1712008275086938594 https://twitter.com/ME_Observer_/status/1712014770382016587 https://twitter.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1712011584548036631
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speng31b posted:idk op think about what you're asking. if people can't evacuate or escape from one of the most densely populated areas on earth with a population of several million (nearly 800k in gaza City alone) and water and power are cut off and the IDF decided to "depopulate" what does that mean to you I am asking what genocide looks like in 2023 against a population of 2 million people in a checkpointed ghetto since that is what is being threatened or talked about the nazis had the Wannsee Conference to put all the organs of government into alignment or is it your position that mass murder will be done more artisanally? Freestyle?
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finally got to the end of this thread and boy howdy am i gonna have a reaction to the next person who tries to tell me how bad jan 6th and the potential danger to our country's leaders was
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Raiad posted:finally got to the end of this thread and boy howdy am i gonna have a reaction to the next person who tries to tell me how bad jan 6th and the potential danger to our country's leaders was The correct response is to nod along and say "Yes, we must stop the Drumpf, at all costs!"
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Death By The Blues posted:Something maybe happening again in Sderot as Israel hands out 27k guns to settlers in the town. Fascist genocidal minister can't leave 
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Frosted Flake posted:I testify that there is no deity but God, and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God.
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I love his portrait. 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The militants wiped out an entire Israeli airborne team. lol they really just dumped that team into the middle of the poo poo and left them to die 
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Frosted Flake posted:She’s surprisingly onboard w the thread position because apparently the Israel lobby people were unbearable in her DC days Lol what a reason to be against a genocide
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fanfic insert posted:Lol what a reason to be against a genocide that's what it comes down to at the end of the day. who was nice to me, who wasn't.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The militants wiped out an entire Israeli airborne team. hamas just sucker punched the only batch of soldiers who could actually fight rather than be useless open air prison camp guards my gut feeling is that there's quite a few units that don't exist any more outside of paper
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Attacks right now between Israel and Lebanon https://twitter.com/AlarabyTV/status/1712015291700449785 https://twitter.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1712017785121898934 https://twitter.com/AJArabic/status/1712019793992093953
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:lol they really just dumped that team into the middle of the poo poo and left them to die poo poo team six.
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Lpzie posted:that's what it comes down to at the end of the day. who was nice to me, who wasn't. Liberals operate on vibes. Its chilling to really think about.
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Hopefully by 'game changer' he means 'Game Over for Israel'
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I have the right to exist! I say as I slowly turn into hummus.
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lmao if Lebanon ends up doing more to stop a genocide than any other country in the last like 2 decades
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Just reviewing the western news reporting on all this and it's strikingly similar to how Ukraine's been reported on: lots and lots of generalised outrage and reporting on specific incidents; strangely useless for getting any sort of understanding of the basic situation on the ground right now. There are also glaring omissions in the reporting: for example, there's a complete absence of any discussion of the implications of the fact that Israel still hasn't been able to secure the border with Gaza, days after all this began. I dunno what my point is.
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Neurolimal posted:lmao if Lebanon ends up doing more to stop a genocide than any other country in at least 2 decades
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Al-Saqr posted:i picked up a fantastic hobby in the form of warhammer 40,000 To have some escapism from this fascist world we live in, I'm going to play a game where everyone is 10% more fascist than our world.
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can someone link me to a battle map or something, my geography of the area is shameful and i have no idea where things are when people are mentioning locations etc.
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The wacky workplace shenanigans of Lebanese, Syrian, Yemeni and Iraqi militias working together in the new tv comedy Sh.I.T.e crowd or something.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Just reviewing the western news reporting on all this and it's strikingly similar to how Ukraine's been reported on: lots and lots of generalised outrage and reporting on specific incidents; strangely useless for getting any sort of understanding of the basic situation on the ground right now. There are also glaring omissions in the reporting: for example, there's a complete absence of any discussion of the implications of the fact that Israel still hasn't been able to secure the border with Gaza, days after all this began. I think this is a matter of perspective too. Libs are not yearning for this information that we see is missing. It used to be years ago that I'd read an article about Israel or Iraq or Vietnam and come away with a feeling that I'd gained some understanding. It's only nowadays that I can look at an article or news coverage and see all the things they're not reporting. I genuinely can't tell if the news got more explicit about the information gaps, or worse at hiding it, or me just better at picking up on it.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Just reviewing the western news reporting on all this and it's strikingly similar to how Ukraine's been reported on: lots and lots of generalised outrage and reporting on specific incidents; strangely useless for getting any sort of understanding of the basic situation on the ground right now. There are also glaring omissions in the reporting: for example, there's a complete absence of any discussion of the implications of the fact that Israel still hasn't been able to secure the border with Gaza, days after all this began. It's how most westerners understand the world, as this kind of game of one-upmanship where a blank slate is assumed and then the individual incidents from each side are tallied to decide the most moral team, regardless of any context or historical background, and never mind the system delivering this information to you has a vested interest in hiding or promoting the information it wants you to see or not see. Consumers of this kind of media are the true purveyors of actual Whataboutery, as they always have a trumped-up sensational incident on hand to catch out their evil enemies and keep themselves feeling morally superior.
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how it startedquote:How dare you hold a state that receives massive diplomatic and financial support from your own nation to a higher standard than already sanctioned pariahs. how it's going quote:None of the people who keep making these comparisons to the ANC and IRA cannot point to a single incident that had even one-tenth of the civilian casualties that the October 7th attack had, nor which contained anything like the sheer level wanton and gleeful cruelty against civilians with absolutely no relation to the entity they were fighting. There's a reason those resistance movements achieved some degree of success, while Hamas is about to be obliterated along with a substantial portion of the populace it claims to represent.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Just reviewing the western news reporting on all this and it's strikingly similar to how Ukraine's been reported on: lots and lots of generalised outrage and reporting on specific incidents; strangely useless for getting any sort of understanding of the basic situation on the ground right now. There are also glaring omissions in the reporting: for example, there's a complete absence of any discussion of the implications of the fact that Israel still hasn't been able to secure the border with Gaza, days after all this began. its why i make the thread title as extreme as possible. By getting the fact that we cspammers, love palestine, hate israel, love hamas, love killing children and kidnapping grandmothers out of the way, we can skip the emotional evokation, get on the same page and hopefully something actually informational beyond "teenagers with guns kill people" can be discussed.
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toggle posted:can someone link me to a battle map or something, my geography of the area is shameful and i have no idea where things are when people are mentioning locations etc. Suriyak is pretty decent ime (Telegram, Twitter) Rybar also does maps that distinguish between territorial control and areas that have fighting but they don't do scale at all.
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If Nelson Mandela wasnt arrested in 1964 he 1000% percent wouldve been more in line with Winnie Mandelas' route of armed struggle.
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