Maximo Roboto posted:

HIs article on the blog? Or Bibi's comments? The latter is from this paywalled Haaretz article

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Zokari posted:

i think it's actually pretty easy to not post about how much you want people to die

Poppers posted:

They’re wearing underwear due to being some serious freaking poopy pants.

mila kunis posted:

fanfic insert posted:

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1711661407404466344?s=20

some clear evidence of Hamas fighters not targeting civilians and even politely asking if they may have a banana.

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

I was under the impression iron dome was a CRAM system with a traditional cannon but knowing it's guided missiles on a a rack of 20 is loving me up so bad lmao

How did anyone think that was ever gonna work?

Dr. VooDoo posted:

It’s very, very likely it’s the first time they ever had the chance to eat a banana or even see one in person in their life. Like people really don’t get just how hosed up the blockade is for Gaza. The last time Israel invaded they had calculated out how many calories a day they needed to provide Gazians to just barely not starve to death

Stinky Wizzleteats posted:

Free al saqr you chicken poo poo colonizer lib fucks

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ThatBasqueGuy posted:

free palestine free al-saqr

PostNouveau posted:

It's hard to imagine what that would look like. Post-apartheid South Africa?

John Charity Spring posted:

you'd hope it would involve more effective redistribution and justice than South Africa or otherwise you just end up with all the settlers retaining political and economic power decades later. but as a starting point, yes, that'd be something to look at

speng31b posted:

probably depends on the context. for example if you want to use the fact that weapons have been essentially distributed to all settlers as a basis for making a really hosed up post you should probably avoid doing that to be safe within the rules.

Ringo Roadagain posted:

I mean a guy walking around with a gun in his hands, terrorizing Palestinians in the west bank.

Frosted Flake posted:

It only had to “work” like the checkpoints the Brits put up everywhere during the Troubles: prevent the war from coming home on a day to day basis, and provide an illusion of safety that allows for continuous, passive, support among a casualty intolerant population.

Basically, it allows for Israel to not really ever feel at war. It’s the same reason the border relied on sensors, remote weapons, UAVs etc. Actual patrolling would involve a constant stream of low level casualties, and people might ask what it was all for. Being rocketed whenever Israel assassinated someone in Gaza or the West Bank similarly would make people question the constant violence.

It’s the same reason the walls and border were built after the Second Intifada, incidentally. Israel wants a status quo that naturally would inspire the desire for retaliation by the Palestinians, but trusted in a technological advantage to prevent that from actually causing ripples at home. It’s exactly how you get a giant rave 5000m from a concentration camp.

To give you an idea of how foundational this is to the IDF, the reason they have those stupid loving mushroom helmet covers is to prevent them from being sniped at while in observation posts. Even low level attrition from the situation they created - checkpoints and observation posts overlooking a captive population - is so unacceptable to them their uniform reflects it.

RealityWarCriminal posted:

the hamas attack was an israeli false flag ?

Israel's Tet Moment by Ettingermentum posted:

Looking beyond this, the Vietnam comparison once again becomes helpful. While the Tet Offensive was a turning point in terms of turning the American public against the war, that didn’t necessarily mean that they turned towards peace. Far from it. In response to the war’s excesses, the public narrowly elected Richard Nixon on his platform of “peace with honor”, a vague non-commitment to a different and more mature look at handling the war. All it meant was the conflict’s continuation in a new, more politically savvy form. The war not only persisted, but expanded. There was still mass death. The difference was that Nixon, leaning from Johnson’s failures, managed an effective PR strategy that kept himself popular, the war in full swing, and the peace movement unmotivated throughout his tenure. A real reckoning of the failures put on full display by Vietnam never came. Justice never came. The war machine was only fine-tuned, not dismantled. America has continued with the same policies, with the same disastrous results, ever since.

It could also very well be the case that Israel will not get a Nixon, but a Reagan. Just as it has countless times in the country, the shock and horror of the attacks could lead Israelis to become only more vengeful and escalatory than they were even under Netanyahu. As Tet convinced Vietnam hawks that Johnson’s so-called “limited war” strategy was a failure, the end of Netanyahu’s Iron Dome strategy could very well convince Israelis that their only problem was not being harsh enough. It would certainly be in line with their historic political tendencies. And with the military’s highly-publicized support for the anti-Netanyahu protests this summer, it’s not at all hard to imagine that the ultra-right could soon construct a stabbed-in-the-back myth around the attacks. Such a strategy would be very much in line with their political philosophies.

Mean Baby posted:

Hamas doesn’t wear uniforms ergo they are also civilians.

the truth is that many (most?) of them are also teenagers, so if you think about it Israel is systemically killing a bunch of civilian teenagers.

however, because they are Arab, the only “correct” label is terrorist

Frosted Flake posted:

It only had to “work” like the checkpoints the Brits put up everywhere during the Troubles: prevent the war from coming home on a day to day basis, and provide an illusion of safety that allows for continuous, passive, support among a casualty intolerant population.

Basically, it allows for Israel to not really ever feel at war. It’s the same reason the border relied on sensors, remote weapons, UAVs etc. Actual patrolling would involve a constant stream of low level casualties, and people might ask what it was all for. Being rocketed whenever Israel assassinated someone in Gaza or the West Bank similarly would make people question the constant violence.

It’s the same reason the walls and border were built after the Second Intifada, incidentally. Israel wants a status quo that naturally would inspire the desire for retaliation by the Palestinians, but trusted in a technological advantage to prevent that from actually causing ripples at home. It’s exactly how you get a giant rave 5000m from a concentration camp.

To give you an idea of how foundational this is to the IDF, the reason they have those stupid loving mushroom helmet covers is to prevent them from being sniped at while in observation posts. Even low level attrition from the situation they created - checkpoints and observation posts overlooking a captive population - is so unacceptable to them their uniform reflects it.

FlapYoJacks posted:

To put this in perspective, the average Palestinian consumes 2,279 per person per day.
The average Israel citizen consumes 3,570 calories per person per day.

Al-Saqr posted:

just a heads up, for all of the hate readers quoting me in SAD, i stand by everything i have said in this thread without remorse or regret, i will always say my piece and stand up against apartheid nazism, and if you disagree feel free to talk to me on this discussion i will politely have a discussion a out it with you and own you in the marketplace of ideas, its truly sad that you are too cowardly to do so and need to run to the principal because your fee fees got hurt, and you dont have any moral backbone or spine when the chips of humanity and decency against the forces of fascism and white colonialism are on the ground, but i never expected any less of people like you. im not gonna go into SAD to make my case or defend myself, i dont need to. here i stand, here are my thoughts, i can do no other. Free palestine, DTI.

Vomik posted:

thank you mods for doing the brave thing and standing up for Israel on an American forum. 🫡

Al-Saqr posted:

just a heads up, for all of the hate readers quoting me in SAD, i stand by everything i have said in this thread without remorse or regret, i will always say my piece and stand up against apartheid nazism, and if you disagree feel free to talk to me on this discussion i will politely have a discussion a out it with you and own you in the marketplace of ideas, its truly sad that you are too cowardly to do so and need to run to the principal because your fee fees got hurt, and you dont have any moral backbone or spine when the chips of humanity and decency against the forces of fascism and white colonialism are on the ground, but i never expected any less of people like you. im not gonna go into SAD to make my case or defend myself, i dont need to. here i stand, here are my thoughts, i can do no other. Free palestine, DTI.

Nix Panicus posted:

Its disappointing, but this is probably one of the handful of places in the west you're allowed to say death to israel

Incidentally, I stand with Palestine and Hamas and believe the genocidal oppressor state of Israel should be destroyed, and I do not condemn any of the violence Hamas has enacted against their jailers. Casting off their chains is a messy, brutal affair and Israel has only itself to blame for the violence. Every single death is unequivocally the fault of Israel.

FlapYoJacks posted:

To put this in perspective, the average Palestinian consumes 2,279 per person per day.
The average Israel citizen consumes 3,570 calories per person per day.

speng31b posted:

sounds like a combatant to me

Poppers posted:

Look at the happy frog go! Lol



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