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Xlorp posted:Now I wonder exactly what kind of barbarian-themed TTRPG allows improvised armored personnel carriers. Conan / Lost Worlds x/over? It was a Dark Heresy game. “Barbarian” was shorter than “feral worlder who thinks he’s an ork”.
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Oct 12, 2023 05:37
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Bashez posted:The footage coming out of Avdiivka is mind boggling. Russia has (had?) significantly more reserves than the optimists, like myself, had thought. It will take a few days to get a clearer picture of how much land they were able to take but they have thrown away so many men and materiel. It will be a long time before Russia runs out of material and manpower, they have already shown again and again how quickly they can reconstitute forces. The question should be what quality/experience these forces have, and based on those videos it does not look to good.
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Oct 12, 2023 07:15
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Bashez posted:The footage coming out of Avdiivka is mind boggling. Russia has (had?) significantly more reserves than the optimists, like myself, had thought. It will take a few days to get a clearer picture of how much land they were able to take but they have thrown away so many men and materiel. JudgeJoeBrown posted:In actual Ukrainian news Russia has been making a lot of questionable pushes into Ukrainian defenses around Avdiivka and its not going so great for them it seems.
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Oct 12, 2023 07:34
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Xiahou Dun posted:It was a Dark Heresy game. “Barbarian” was shorter than “feral worlder who thinks he’s an ork”. I believe the lore term is "digga" and no, I'm not kidding.
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Oct 12, 2023 08:02
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DTurtle posted:That’s quite a lot of stuff to lose in one area in two days. I also find the breakdown of causes quite interesting. A lot of FPV drones hitting softer targets (obviously getting video proof of those is easier, but still). Shout out to the Leopard 1 getting a confirmed kill against Tank.
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Oct 12, 2023 08:52
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saratoga posted:https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1712147257338867867 Eh, MT-LB is a personnel carrier already, no need to improvise anything. The tactical sign in the back indicates that it's part of an anti-tank artillery unit, so could be a gun tractor or ATGM platform.
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Oct 12, 2023 09:25
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Nenonen posted:Eh, MT-LB is a personnel carrier already, no need to improvise anything. All that sheet metal in the back is the improvised part. Whatever it was for it didn't work.
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Oct 12, 2023 09:32
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Nenonen posted:Eh, MT-LB is a personnel carrier already, no need to improvise anything. The tactical sign in the back indicates that it's part of an anti-tank artillery unit, so could be a gun tractor or ATGM platform. There's more pics further down of something similar from April, they cut the existing roof off and made it taller, with a heavy MG or light autocannon sticking out of a front facing window like a mobile pillbox.
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Oct 12, 2023 11:25
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:All that sheet metal in the back is the improvised part. Whatever it was for it didn't work. Still, you're looking at a vehicle that drove into mines. The superstructure is not designed to withstand that, just bullets. The box structure looks a lot like the ambulance variant, but it could also be a command vehicle or one of a plethora of other variants.
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Oct 12, 2023 11:43
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saratoga posted:https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1712147257338867867 curious they photoshopped away the dead body next to the mine, why not just black or blur it out instead
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Oct 12, 2023 11:43
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NTRabbit posted:There's more pics further down of something similar from April, they cut the existing roof off and made it taller, with a heavy MG or light autocannon sticking out of a front facing window like a mobile pillbox. looks exceptionally like one of the isis improvised battle trucks, except on an mtlb chassis
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Oct 12, 2023 11:56
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Xlorp posted:Now I wonder exactly what kind of barbarian-themed TTRPG allows improvised armored personnel carriers. Conan / Lost Worlds x/over? The A-Team bursts out of a barn in an uparmored Ford van
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Oct 12, 2023 12:12
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How's it going Russian Navy? https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1712373815076958526
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Oct 12, 2023 12:13
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I just watched a video of an air bursting FPV drone and it was terrifying. Modern drone war is hellishly scary
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Oct 12, 2023 12:45
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DTurtle posted:From one of the other Ukraine threads: It's basically an entire brigade's worth of hardware. One tank battalion, two mechanized infantry battalions, and two batteries of artillery. Portable, guided, non-line-of-sight munitions are definitely A Thing now We were all worried about Skynet creating skeleton-robots with plasma rifles. In fact Skynet would just strap grenades to those little RC planes we used as kids.
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Oct 12, 2023 13:09
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Bashez posted:The footage coming out of Avdiivka is mind boggling. Russia has (had?) significantly more reserves than the optimists, like myself, had thought. It will take a few days to get a clearer picture of how much land they were able to take but they have thrown away so many men and materiel. On the positive side, the quality of the forces deployed there was even lower than the level Russians have displayed so far. There are so much footage of Russian infantry in drone range acting in ways that would make any half-decent NCO die of apoplexy. I don't think anyone over there was trained to do anything, or if they were, the leadership was afraid of correcting the behavior of their troops. And as for equipment, Russia is now unambiguously intentionally using T-62:s offensively as tanks.
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Oct 12, 2023 13:20
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Dick Ripple posted:Shout out to the Leopard 1 getting a confirmed kill against Tank.
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Oct 12, 2023 14:29
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DTurtle posted:Nice find. I overlooked that. That is actually amazing. I assume it's this? https://twitter.com/Trotes936897/status/1712226627298509006?t=PHTb1eclKy28jYZ8FItPHg&s=19
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Oct 12, 2023 14:56
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Dick Ripple posted:It will be a long time before Russia runs out of material and manpower, they have already shown again and again how quickly they can reconstitute forces. The question should be what quality/experience these forces have, and based on those videos it does not look to good. I'm not sure their reconstitution is all that successful. They were able to scrape together a few modern vehicles from the trickle their industry produces, but that was supplemented by a lot of old junk and even some improvised stuff and civilian vehicles. At the same time the crews really seemed to struggle to even drive, let alone attack effectively. One video I saw was a BMP that rolled over in traffic outside of combat. Once in combat there's videos of lone tanks, completely unsupported getting picked off. It's dangerous to draw conclusions based on early reports and whatever images the Ukrainians choose to release, but it looks more like they're struggling to replace lost equipment and train new people after the summers fighting.
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Oct 12, 2023 15:10
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This is quite the claim. Hopefully it's correct. https://twitter.com/geoconfirmed/status/1712337033153175709?s=46&t=jERcUgYdb3JwTmxzBbEvRw
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Oct 12, 2023 15:23
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The assault on Avdiivka really begs the question, why this, why now? I had expected Russia to try to inflict as much damage as possible on attacking Ukrainian troops while waiting for a winter slowdown that would allow them to build up units for a spring offensive. Instead they launched an attack that seems even desperate.
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Oct 12, 2023 21:29
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:The assault on Avdiivka really begs the question, why this, why now? I had expected Russia to try to inflict as much damage as possible on attacking Ukrainian troops while waiting for a winter slowdown that would allow them to build up units for a spring offensive. Instead they launched an attack that seems even desperate. "They keep advancing. Do something!" -Putin, probably
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Oct 12, 2023 21:35
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As far as timing goes, on pro-Z social media I see a perception that the US and EU might be forced to abandon Ukraine to save Israel if the middle east situation continues to escalate. Taking Avdiika would be a big deal regardless since the town has held out since the beginning of a special military operation, but taking it now would be a critical blow according to that theory
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Oct 12, 2023 21:47
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Wow, Russia can barely even make any advances across the line. Epic fail, losers. Counter-counter offensive is dead, just surrender now Russia. You can't win and will just kill all your young men. Zero progress and just throwing materiel away. I care about the people. 
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Oct 12, 2023 21:53
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Toxic Mental posted:Wow, Russia can barely even make any advances across the line. Epic fail, losers. Counter-counter offensive is dead, just surrender now Russia. You can't win and will just kill all your young men. Zero progress and just throwing materiel away. I care about the people. I am already drawing up plans for my summer home in liberated, pro-American Republic of Siberia. I cannot wait to enrich that oppressed, industrious people with resource extraction contracts.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 12, 2023 22:02
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OAquinas posted:"They keep advancing. Do something!" -Putin, probably "They keep advancing. Do something!" - Hitler before Kursk, probably "They keep advancing. Do something!"- Lee before Gettysburg, probably "They keep advancing. Do something!"- Paullus before Cannae, probably "They keep advancing. Do something!" -Charles I d'Albret before Agincourt, probably
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Oct 12, 2023 22:29
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95% of frontal assaults are abandoned before success
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Oct 12, 2023 22:40
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1712601533580239203
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Oct 12, 2023 23:51
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apparently the us is working on cobbling together spare parts to build new sam launchers, revamp obsolete nato equipment, and allow soviet launchers to use nato missiles. just another demonstration of how unprepared every country in the world was for a sustained modern peer conflict. i'm interested to see that there is still sustained efforts to make the hawks system relevant. i don't recall ever seeing any evidence of its deployment, much less a successful kill. i'm sure it's an all out scramble to try to avoid a repeat of the pain inflicted last winterquote:BRUSSELS (AP) — The Pentagon calls it FrankenSAM — a project that cobbles together air defense weapons for Ukraine from an array of parts from around the world.
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Oct 13, 2023 00:16
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:The assault on Avdiivka really begs the question, why this, why now? I had expected Russia to try to inflict as much damage as possible on attacking Ukrainian troops while waiting for a winter slowdown that would allow them to build up units for a spring offensive. Instead they launched an attack that seems even desperate. It's standard old Soviet doctrine. Don't reinforce failure. Or in other words, if you are losing somewhere, don't send men and materiel there to be wasted, attack somewhere else which forces your enemy to stop their offensive to respond to it. It worked really well against the Nazis, and is still one of the cornerstones of Russian doctrine. The attack is supposed to be lot less of a clown show, though.
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Oct 13, 2023 00:29
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Tuna-Fish posted:It's standard old Soviet doctrine. Don't reinforce failure. Or in other words, if you are losing somewhere, don't send men and materiel there to be wasted, attack somewhere else which forces your enemy to stop their offensive to respond to it. It worked really well against the Nazis, and is still one of the cornerstones of Russian doctrine. A key thing to keep in mind of course is this doctrine is tailor suited for a nation that could rely on having a large mechanized force and is supposed to have weeks if not months of preparation; plus remember all of that artillery the Soviets could rely on, especially in WW2. Somehow I don't think Russia today has the tool it needs to really make use of the doctrine.
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Oct 13, 2023 00:51
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:The assault on Avdiivka really begs the question, why this, why now? I had expected Russia to try to inflict as much damage as possible on attacking Ukrainian troops while waiting for a winter slowdown that would allow them to build up units for a spring offensive. Instead they launched an attack that seems even desperate. They've been attacking all along the East for months. I said a month or so ago that this fall would be a bunch of suicidal attacks into minefields because it's clearly what they were building up towards as the Ukrainian offensive ended. As for why, there is obviously a lot of political pressure to make something happen and after the mutiny they have been purging all dissent from the army. Probably there isn't anyone willing to push back against a bad plan and Putin's inner circle thinks they can win this thing.
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Oct 13, 2023 01:26
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SecDef and the CJCS (now Gen. C. Q. Brown) gave an update after latest Ukraine contact group meeting. I have heavily edited for length and to remove I/P content. https://www.defense.gov/News/Transc...-chairman-gene/ Highlights: -Air Defense and Artillery are the major items again, especially in preparation for winter, when Russia is likely to attempt to destroy critical infrastructure that provides heat and electricity in Ukraine. -Germany donating another Patriot Battery and components/munitions. -When asked, SecDef had no announcement on ATACMS quote:SecDef: ... Since Russia's unprovoked and all-out invasion last February, the United States has committed $43.9 billion to help support a free and secure Ukraine, and that includes our most recent Ukraine assistance package valued at $200 million.
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Oct 13, 2023 01:57
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:apparently the us is working on cobbling together spare parts to build new sam launchers, revamp obsolete nato equipment, and allow soviet launchers to use nato missiles. just another demonstration of how unprepared every country in the world was for a sustained modern peer conflict. i'm interested to see that there is still sustained efforts to make the hawks system relevant. i don't recall ever seeing any evidence of its deployment, much less a successful kill. i'm sure it's an all out scramble to try to avoid a repeat of the pain inflicted last winter To be fair, I don't think a peer conflict quite like this one was expected. You have a nuclear power running a clown show offensive against a regional power. No one can tell the nuclear power to just Knock It Off Or Else, but the regional power is pretty marginal relative to other major nations and not already allied with them militarily, so while they're getting aid it's somewhat slap dash and incompatible with equipment and doctrine they already have. You're right that no one was prepared for a peer conflict, but nominally this should not be a peer conflict. I think, ultimately, the other major powers are ok with letting Russia bleed itself on the razor wire of Ukraine, whether or not it dies, as long as it stays occupied and bleeds. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Oct 13, 2023 02:54
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:apparently the us is working on cobbling together spare parts to build new sam launchers, revamp obsolete nato equipment, and allow soviet launchers to use nato missiles. just another demonstration of how unprepared every country in the world was for a sustained modern peer conflict. i'm interested to see that there is still sustained efforts to make the hawks system relevant. i don't recall ever seeing any evidence of its deployment, much less a successful kill. i'm sure it's an all out scramble to try to avoid a repeat of the pain inflicted last winter It’s much less ‘they are unprepared for a sustained modern peer conflict’ and more ‘they don’t really have a lot they care to give’. Like Russia has tons of stuff and will basically never run out, but their problem is that they failed to keep it maintained. The US could just pull out its huge hordes of stuff, but its annoying to send it all over and they don’t want to give them ‘the good stuff’. This goes for basically every nation, outside those who didn’t have good stuff to begin with. It’s a wrong lesson to take.
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Oct 13, 2023 03:29
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Warbadger posted:They still exist, in some rare examples like the Challenger 1. Wet racks aren't in Russian tanks or most other Western tanks, though. God, where have you been in every tank argument I've ever gotten myself into? Saying things like "Modern tank rounds don't work exactly like WW2 AP rounds" or "The design of the T-series makes necessary upgrades difficult-to-impossible" shouldn't be controversial, but they are.
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Oct 13, 2023 05:06
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saratoga posted:They've been attacking all along the East for months. I said a month or so ago that this fall would be a bunch of suicidal attacks into minefields because it's clearly what they were building up towards as the Ukrainian offensive ended. The size of the attacking force is also a bit puzzling. Commentators like Perun have noted that the constant presence of drones has made it very dangerous to concentrate forces near the front. Yet here we saw tank columns. Come to think of it, the spot might have been chosen simply because it's one of the few places where a force of this size can roll into battle almost straight off the train.  Them being green reinforcements would also explain why the attacking troops frequently appeared to have no idea what they were doing
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Oct 13, 2023 10:56
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Ynglaur posted:Portable, guided, non-line-of-sight munitions are definitely A Thing now We were all worried about Skynet creating skeleton-robots with plasma rifles. In fact Skynet would just strap grenades to those little RC planes we used as kids. Flavahbeast posted:As far as timing goes, on pro-Z social media I see a perception that the US and EU might be forced to abandon Ukraine to save Israel if the middle east situation continues to escalate. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Oct 13, 2023 11:39
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:Come to think of it, the spot might have been chosen simply because it's one of the few places where a force of this size can roll into battle almost straight off the train. This is certainly an important consideration, although more for supplying the force during the operation. An armoured brigade on offense consumes a mountain of fuel and other consumables every day and moving those mountains of supplies through the same depots and roads that are already supplying the defenders in south would be challenging.
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Szarrukin posted:I do realize that I should've expected nothing else with a) Zelensky being of Jewish origin himself b) USA being Ukraine's main ally, but every time Zelensky speaks about Israel/Palestine it loving hurts my soul.
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