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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

It's going to turn out that he stood next to the cousin of the roomate of the guy who once sent an email to one of the palestinians who paraglided into Gaza.

E: FOI requests on Rafael Behr's blood tests revealled his heart attack was caused by Jeremy Corbyn inserting over 198 particles of antisemitons into his bloodstream.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 21, 2023

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Mebh posted:

Just remember, 90 percent of marriage is yelling "What???" at each other from separate rooms.

There's a reason people WhatsApp (or similar) to each other from within the same house ;p

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

EvilHawk posted:

Tories are very likely to have a significant number of their "senior" MPs quit or lose their seats at the next election. The question is whether they go for Braverman post-Sunak, or if they get a new Cameron-like figure who's untainted by the current mess.

Farage. 100%. I can feel it in their waters

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

I still think it's Mordin' time.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'm actually interested to see what the Cum Party emits, because for all the massive faults of the BoJo/DomCum Policy Unit they're unlikely to be onboard with measuring dogs or banning whipped cream propellant.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Absolute freedom to say the word and mandatory gilets.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Someone from that policy unit definitely pooed on their gilet in a moment of confusion regarding the razor brand that said "try not to harass women."

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

smellmycheese posted:

Farage. 100%. I can feel it in their waters

He does indeed sound like the sensible choice. :stare:

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive

my hometown MP. get hosed idiot. he got voted in 3 consecutive times and i would be surprised if he didn't get voted in a 4th even with the seat split, but making money's a lot harder when you're not in government so i'm not surprised if he wants to gently caress off

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

bessantj posted:

I've worked with a few people who day labour on building sites and:

Is a big attitude with them. They say they're there to "get paid" and that's it. Also they say the same when they are on rail sites and they do a loving awful job so I can only imagine how bad they are on civil sites.

When you talk about day labour I get this impression of unskilled workers who are like picked up by some guy in a truck or something from the street who work for a pittance. I dunno if that's something I imported from seeing american movies or something, but it doesn't seem condusive to a quality job, just a cheap one. Just thinking about builders and tradespeople here, it's a skilled job people goto school for and the typically have a regular job working for a construction firm. The idea of day labour is kinda alien to me.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think rather than having each company with its own workers, there are agencies which have a pool of nomnally competent workers and shop them out to many companies when they want them. That way the companies that run the projects don't have to keep staff on payroll.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


His Divine Shadow posted:

When you talk about day labour I get this impression of unskilled workers who are like picked up by some guy in a truck or something from the street who work for a pittance. I dunno if that's something I imported from seeing american movies or something, but it doesn't seem condusive to a quality job, just a cheap one. Just thinking about builders and tradespeople here, it's a skilled job people goto school for and the typically have a regular job working for a construction firm. The idea of day labour is kinda alien to me.

Well it's more you work for an agency than loiter round and get picked up a la the U.S. but yeah there is a certain "unskilled" element to it even though quite a few people I've worked with are very skilled and quite clever. I'm not sure we value them in this country anymore.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Ah I see yeah we got agencies like that here too. Though I've never heard them in any positive fashion.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean yeah ultimately it's a product of short termism and turning workers into ever more interchangeable and replaceable things so it's not good for anyone except the people who make money off it.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


There is a lack of workers at the moment which was touched on in that article so you have this dwindling pool of people doing all the jobs, where as in the past if you weren't a particularly worker they could replace you easily now they can't so I wonder if that hasn't had an effect on it as well.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

His Divine Shadow posted:

When you talk about day labour I get this impression of unskilled workers who are like picked up by some guy in a truck or something from the street who work for a pittance. I dunno if that's something I imported from seeing american movies or something, but it doesn't seem condusive to a quality job, just a cheap one. Just thinking about builders and tradespeople here, it's a skilled job people goto school for and the typically have a regular job working for a construction firm. The idea of day labour is kinda alien to me.

OwlFancier posted:

I think rather than having each company with its own workers, there are agencies which have a pool of nomnally competent workers and shop them out to many companies when they want them. That way the companies that run the projects don't have to keep staff on payroll.

My brother did this in Northern Ireland for 20 odd years, worked as a brickie/labourer.
It's a legit contractor, but who hires anyone that wants to do it. So skills don't matter much, its just getting it done within the alloted time.
All he would get is a phone text saying what time to be up the next morning, collected by a van, and off to some random place.
One week it could be at a school, next day working on some private house wall, then next day on some millionaire's third house.
Some of the workers are tracked and reported to the govt as businesses have to to.
But there a lot more that aren't, and get their cash in hand at the end of the week.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

E: hosed up the link, going to repost

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Oct 22, 2023

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Guavanaut posted:

I'm actually interested to see what the Cum Party emits, because for all the massive faults of the BoJo/DomCum Policy Unit they're unlikely to be onboard with measuring dogs or banning whipped cream propellant.

So a pro-whippet party?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

A number of the asbestos strippers I've been working with use agency guys and yeah they have problems, don't always complete the job properly and often don't take the safety element very seriously either. God knows if they've even been trained on it.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Asbestos strippers, covered in... Oh poo poo, that's not glitter!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Next on stage, the Lead Acetate Paint dancers.

Bobstar posted:

So a pro-whippet party?
:discourse:

But seriously I'd like to see more action about urban air pollution and young people getting typhoid fever after bathing in our large open sewers and workplace safety around things like

OwlFancier posted:

A number of the asbestos strippers I've been working with use agency guys and yeah they have problems, don't always complete the job properly and often don't take the safety element very seriously either.
far more than any tabloid panic based bans, but it seems like we've been given the choice between libertarian weirdos and moral panic perverts.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Some of it's the kind of macho element I see in a lot of jobs where people seem worryingly willing to risk their own health for the sake of a job, but I do wonder even then how much of that is just not being properly made aware of how much respiratory conditions loving suck.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Mebh posted:

Just remember, 90 percent of marriage is yelling "What???" at each other from separate rooms.

I SAID THEY'RE SHOWING BOYS PLAYING WITH DOLLS, NORMAN, ON THE TELEVISION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

bye oval office

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

keep punching joe posted:

Just remembered wasn't there supposed to be some Sunday paper exclusive exposing Jeremy Corbyn couple of weeks ago? What was it?

an anonymous source reported that they saw him in lidl pressing the yellow button on the way out, after his checkout experience with a potentially jewish cashier

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

OzyMandrill posted:

A wedding is a party where technically, you're the host, but you have paid people (and got a best man/MoH) to do the poo poo-giving, it's literally your day to kick back and let it roll by now. Have fun!

Except when you do it with a 3 month old and can't actually just stop giving a poo poo.

Plus, well, if you follow a traditional wedding it's more like a job.

You need to be at certain places at certain times following a strict schedule so that everything flows properly.

There's the:
pre wedding faff, (breakfast and getting dressed, etc)
Welcoming guests (almost all of them so as not to seem rude)
The ceremony itself
Wedding photo session (family, bride/groom, etc)
Short break for drinks
Speeches before the breakfast (the dinner basically)
The breakfast itself
Short break for drinks
Cutting the cake
First dance
Throwing the flowers or whatever the gently caress that's called
Disco party time.

With everyone booked and paid for they all need to run on time.

My wedding day basically started at 10am and I didn't feel like I was "done" and free to just relax until about 9pm.

Though, then we had to look after our son as the babysitter finished up.

Edit: almost forgot the post wedding nut come down where you realise you just spent the better part of £5k to £10k on a party for other people.

Kin fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Oct 21, 2023

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/_WaqasTufail/status/1715756108340433362

The only violence I've seen in any of the protests has come from angry white racists

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
lol good for her leathering into them

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
Police are urgently investigating the tube driver who is pro existence-of-palistinians

quote:

In the video being investigated, the driver can be heard saying "hope you all have a pleasant day today" and "keep all those people in your prayers".
drat, what a sick gently caress.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


sinky posted:

Police are urgently investigating the tube driver who is pro existence-of-palistinians

drat, what a sick gently caress.

What a poo poo. Probably wants Palestinian people to not fear being shot when they go to get some milk. Scum.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

sinky posted:

Police are urgently investigating the tube driver who is pro existence-of-palistinians

drat, what a sick gently caress.

Knew that would happen. :ughh:

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~

fuctifino posted:

https://twitter.com/_WaqasTufail/status/1715756108340433362

The only violence I've seen in any of the protests has come from angry white racists
Terrible antisemitism on display at that soft toy stand there

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Kin posted:

Edit: almost forgot the post wedding nut come down where you realise you just spent the better part of £5k to £10k on a party for other people.

I was too wasted to try anything on tbh, well done you



I was really lucky and largely just turned up high on painkillers for busted ribs/leg, ceremony was over quick then just largely shook hands and recieved drinks and smiled till I was plastered and then karaoke started and I don't remember much after

Albinator
Mar 31, 2010

Kin posted:


Edit: almost forgot the post wedding nut come down where you realise you just spent the better part of £5k to £10k on a party for other people.
I'd put on a loving awesome party for people if I had and put that much money into it and not feel bad about it at all. My wedding my in-laws paid for everything and I thought it sucked. Lots of people there we didn't know - people the FIL worked with, that sort of thing, poo poo DJ, bad cake. That said our friends who did come had a good time, so maybe I was the problem.

Stone cold sober at the end of the night. Every picture of me through the evening I had a glass of Scotch in my hand, but it was all the same glass. What with all the glad handing we barely got any time to ourselves. Anyway, hope OP has had a fantastic day.

e: almost forgot the best story. My best man and I shared a room at the hotel the night before. We put on the TV in the morning and up came an ad for Four Weddings and a Funeral and the first thing the voice over said was "Don't get married!". Fortunately I'm not superstitious.

Albinator fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Oct 21, 2023

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

The weirdest part is when you catch yourself coming out of wedding brain and realise you just spent the last 6 months or so thinking "yeah, £500 sounds about right for that" regardless of whatever that is.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Yeah weddings are pricey but we had a class massive party and everyone had a great time so idk seems worth it to me.

If you did a generic rubber-chicken wedding then welp you get what you get.

One year anniversary tomorrow so off for a nice hotel day with massages and jacuzzi and whatnot :toot:

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

fuctifino posted:

https://twitter.com/_WaqasTufail/status/1715756108340433362

The only violence I've seen in any of the protests has come from angry white racists

crispix posted:

lol good for her leathering into them

lol yeah that lass loving rules

no fear, tell that racist poo poo to do one

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Failed Imagineer posted:

Yeah weddings are pricey but we had a class massive party and everyone had a great time so idk seems worth it to me.

If you did a generic rubber-chicken wedding then welp you get what you get.

One year anniversary tomorrow so off for a nice hotel day with massages and jacuzzi and whatnot :toot:

Yeah same, we had a great wedding, small enough that I knew everyone and we all had a great time, loads of food and alcohol, some (free) gambling, it was all class and the day itself was zero stress for me

I also fully appreciate that we were very fortunate in that my wife's parents paid for half, we got lucky with the weather etc.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

putting a fiver on Kate Hoey to be the next Tory Leader


jokes, I don't have a fiver to spare because UK

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SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Honestly the best way to understand Starmer is that he just wants to win. There is zero ideology of any kind other than that behind his actions.

I doubt he has any kind of plans for what to do when he does win, other than stuff he's been told will make him popular (with donors). Reeves wants to gut the welfare state and Streeting wants to dismantle the NHS and hand it over to private companies, but Starmer just wants to be The Biggest Manager and sit in the big chair and has zero loving idea what to do when he's there.

It explains why his ideological bent shifts so wildly between being a student supporter of Palestine and in a band, to being a lawyer and then director of prosecutions, to sricking closely to Corbyn and talking about the 'moral case for socialism' in his pledges, and then dropping them the second he was leader. He will say whatever he needs to say to win; but the problem is that when he does 'win,' being devoid of any ideology of his own and having the moral constitution of a goldfish, he will shift to the consensus of whatever group he feels will keep him 'winning.' I doubt he even sees it as duplicitous.

People are calling him a fascist, but he is so much worse than that - a mediocre fascist can be stymied by the contradictions in their ideology or exposed for the piece of poo poo they really are. Starmer has no such inner turmoil. He's a void. A blank. He's the kind of person who, if presented by push-polling from the Sun saying people wanted to bring back hanging (and was told by the Akehurst SpAd wing it would give his ratings a boost) he'd open a debate to be 'fair to the will of the people,' never for one second considering personally if he felt it was right or not.

Despite constantly being accused of being a populist, Corbyn realised that politicians have an ideological duty to make the case to the public for certain ideals, to shift public opinion and debate in a healthier direction. To advocate for the things you believe are right.

Starmer is 100% the kind of centrist who doesn't even understand the overton window - or worse, doesn't care about it. He just wants to win at any cost, and that makes him an incredibly dangerous person to be at the helm of a political party because of the things - like Reeves and Streeting - that he'll enable.

Just want to say this is 100% correct

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