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DeadlyMuffin posted:Do wood and metal shop still exist in most schools? I wasn't aware of any where I grew up. My dad talked about them when he was in highschool in the 60s, but I figured they were long gone. In seattle area we had wood and metal shop 7/8th grade and in the dallas suburbs we had wood and metal shop in 9/10th grade and auto shop 11/12th. That was all ~20 years ago though
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Hadlock posted:You're not wrong Could you at least get to whatever stupid/wrong point you're trying to make instead of these never-ending shaggy dog posts?
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i had woodshop in high school, but metal and auto had already been cut, and i heard woodshop got axed a few years after i graduated. but i went to a bougie high school, so we mostly had electives like advertising and media or graphic design
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Where do kids learn about how one can lose fingats from someone firsthand these days?
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Could you at least get to whatever stupid/wrong point you're trying to make instead of these never-ending shaggy dog posts? It's the last two sentences of paragraph two Sorry I tried to add context, I'll try and keep it to single sentence critical remarks instead of contributing to the discussion 
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i still don't understand the connection so many people have to writing in print and electronics. you dont write in print on electronics either
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Oct 23, 2023 02:36
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Cactus Ghost posted:you dont write in print on electronics either This is Palm Pilot erasure.
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Kestral posted:For what it's worth, I re-learned cursive a couple years back and discovered that it enormously increased my writing speed - which is nice, because there's any number of situations in which you can write, but not type - and my retention of what I'd written. There's quite a few studies showing that written notes are significantly more effective at providing retention and comprehension, and my experience bore that out. I definitely regret not taking it seriously enough to have useable cursive in college, would have made my note-taking much more effective. 
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as a guy who has many pilot metros and other fountain pens, I would like more people to use fountain pens but I find it impractical for most k12 students to have them given the difficulty in sourcing ink quickly without going online and also getting them to do the minimum amount of maintenance to keep them from drying out or getting ink everywhere I didn’t take art in high school so maybe this is already a solved problem tldr having a nice ballpoint pen is good enough to use for cursive
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sb hermit posted:as a guy who has many pilot metros and other fountain pens, I would like more people to use fountain pens but I find it impractical for most k12 students to have them given the difficulty in sourcing ink quickly without going online and also getting them to do the minimum amount of maintenance to keep them from drying out or getting ink everywhere Preppys basically never dry out as long as you can put the cap back on
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First of May posted:Schools should teach useful life skills, like how to use a Linux command line.
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e: wrong thread
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BeAuMaN posted:We could also teach them about Police Interactions. First Lesson: Don't talk to the police. But if we did that, we wouldn't have enough "volunteer" firefighters!
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Dirk the Average posted:But if we did that, we wouldn't have enough "volunteer" firefighters! 
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Dirk the Average posted:But if we did that, we wouldn't have enough "volunteer" firefighters! Plus the
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shirunei posted:people who grew up writing for everything find it easier to remember written notes Well, that's the thing, it's not quite that straightforward because there's some neurology weirdness going on. A fair number of studies - like this one, which actually isn't one I'd seen before - have found a connection between note-taking by hand and information retention, possibly because the use of fine motor control encourages the brain to form those memories for whatever reason, and the effects are found in both adults and children. Like I said, I didn't grow up writing everything, and was a "computers from the age of 5" person and took my college notes on a laptop. Turns out I retain written information noticeably better than typed. But my anecdote is just that, anecdotal, and if the subject actually interests you there's plenty of academic work on it - not all of which comes to the same conclusion! It's still very much an open area of study, not one we can readily dismiss. Edit: And is it a big deal in the grand scheme of education? Nah. But if we're legislating about it anyway, might as well do it properly.
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In high school I found I retained information best if I kept my hand busy, but I never actually referred to my notes later, so I generally would pull out a piece of notebook paper and fill it with an alternating teardrop doodle thing like this: I kept that up all the way through grad school. People would sometimes ask if they could borrow my notes because they saw I was writing the whole time but I never actually took any notes, doing that little doodle just helped me focus on the lecturer so that I could remember things better. I also was bad about cleaning out my backpack so at the end of a semester I'd have hundreds of pages with just that on it on every line that I'd have to throw away.
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I bet drawing the cool S would work even better
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Kestral posted:Well, that's the thing, it's not quite that straightforward because there's some neurology weirdness going on. A fair number of studies - like this one, which actually isn't one I'd seen before - have found a connection between note-taking by hand and information retention, possibly because the use of fine motor control encourages the brain to form those memories for whatever reason, and the effects are found in both adults and children. it's definitely anecdotally the case with me too. i took notes both ways in college, and i never had to look at my handwritten notes because i just remembered it. types notes i had to actually study (often by just copying them by hand). i was also using computers since i was old enough to understand how to use one. brains are weird
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fermun posted:In high school I found I retained information best if I kept my hand busy, but I never actually referred to my notes later, so I generally would pull out a piece of notebook paper and fill it with an alternating teardrop doodle thing like this: Awesome thanks I'll get your notes back to you next class. See you Wednesday 
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Another anecdote that somehow handwriting things makes me remember them. After decades of typing, things flow straight from my brain to my fingers without leaving any footprints.
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Should have let people believe that the notes are encoded in the minor changes from loop to loop on the doodle.
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California just hates the future in general, what with suspending Cruise's permit for self-driving taxis. Which is good, because the future sucks.
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https://twitter.com/LibyanIntegrity/status/1719021804021293310 Hopefully this guy loses his trial for assault next.
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Elon Musk will not be banning this guy for that lol
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https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1719063516232241586
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Self driving robots aiming directly at kids once again
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that kid was clearly trying to draw the charge, he's got solid grasp of the defensive fundamentals
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mikeycp posted:Self driving robots aiming directly at kids once again
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https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1719151772021731817 "The Republican-led U.S. House of Representatives is attempting to prevent President Joe Biden from awarding federal grant funding to the California High-Speed Rail Authority. Legislation presented by GOP lawmakers would dramatically cut spending on passenger train programs, including more than a 60% cut to Amtrak, and a direct block of any federal funding to be awarded to California’s high-speed rail projects." https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-118hr4820rh/pdf/BILLS-118hr4820rh.pdf
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OgNar posted:https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1719151772021731817 Something something their hands with a hacksaw something something Minecraft
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:doubt: about the GOP's ability to pass any sort of legislation right now
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Attempting to defund Amtrak is such a transparently petty middle finger to the guy who used to take Amtrak to the Senate
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OgNar posted:https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1719151772021731817 Imagine being beat to an idea by the Tories and also unable to even accomplish it
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We really are dying faster than the UK
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The Aardvark posted:We really are dying faster than the UK I'm going to get laughed out of the forum for posting this, but it kind of makes sense? The United States was founded by a bunch of folk who couldn't hack it in the UK and left to try their own thing, ended up getting very lucky in their timing and position, and have been declining ever since? 
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nah, its just speedrunning capitalism.
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i thought amtrak had to cover all its own expenses, like the post office
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Amtrak has always run at a loss except for the NE corridor. The justification has always been "it's not a viable business so we must run it as a government owned company, because if we don't the infrastructure around will crumble and it'll never return" Pretty sure people who left for the new world did so because all the viable land had been spoken for by the same ten or so families for the last two thousand years and wanted a go at generating that kind of wealth for themselves. First generation immigrants are consistently some of the most successful people The remaining families still sitting on their Spanish land grants in Texas and California today are doing pretty decently for themselves
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