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Baronjutter posted:Its honestly mindblowing for non-americans that americans so frequently just travel around on their daily lives with a gun, and even do international travel with their gun. Just an absolutely insane unhinged culture. Most Americans do not own guns, even fewer carry them around, and only the highest of morons try to bring them on planes.
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70% of americans dont own guns but average guns per owner is like 3. straightforward power law 30% is not strictly speaking above 50% but its not like, 0.1% gun business, being durable goods which are basically optional for purchase, is dog poo poo. unlike the cast iron pan majors of the 1950s, the gun majors have made up for this fact and survived by glomping onto advertising hard and lobbying also hard.
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Oct 24, 2023 19:27
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americans account for just under half of global gun ownership
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Oct 24, 2023 19:30
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Stink Billyums posted:americans account for just under half of global gun ownership Gun guys own a LOT of guns. I only know one gun guy and he has like, 150. Even he doesn't carry one around though.
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Oct 24, 2023 19:35
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MarcusSA posted:Yeah not really a thing. This guy is just a moron who forgot he had it. Very very very few Americans will actually travel with a gun but you are allowed to travel with a firearm in your checked luggage I know some canadian border folks and they say it happen like... multiple times a day at the crossings. And a great deal start yelling about their rights when they are told they can't open carry in canada.
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Oct 24, 2023 19:39
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I would definitely bring a cast iron pan on a flight though
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Baronjutter posted:I know some canadian border folks and they say it happen like... multiple times a day at the crossings. And a great deal start yelling about their rights when they are told they can't open carry in canada. A small percentage of 350 million is still a lot of idiots.
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Oct 24, 2023 19:51
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What are gun laws like in China? Are they more restrictive than in Japan?
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Baronjutter posted:I know some canadian border folks and they say it happen like... multiple times a day at the crossings. And a great deal start yelling about their rights when they are told they can't open carry in canada. Well yeah flying with it is completely different though. Not gonna say it’s a huge pain in the rear end but it’s a lot more difficult. You can’t just throw it in your checked bag and call it good. That’s why most people don’t bother unless they are going hunting or something. Also not all states honor the permits from every state.
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Scam Likely posted:What are gun laws like in China? Are they more restrictive than in Japan? They're similar, you can have guns for hunting. I wonder if it might be easier in China since you could just bribe the permit instead of having to go through all the stuff you do in Japan.
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Oct 24, 2023 20:03
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MarcusSA posted:Well yeah flying with it is completely different though. Ehh, you gotta have a locked case and declare it... "Hey, I got a gun in here!" I don't know if that's even really getting into what I would term an 'inconvenience'.
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Baddog posted:Ehh, you gotta have a locked case and declare it... "Hey, I got a gun in here!" Checking a bag is the highest inconvenience.
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Oct 24, 2023 20:46
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Baddog posted:Ehh, you gotta have a locked case and declare it... "Hey, I got a gun in here!" Then TSA has to take it into a room and verify that it’s correctly packaged and locked with you there as well. Also the ammo has to be separated. So it’s not quite hey I’ve got a gun and you go about your flight. It’s definitely an inconvenience. Also the airline tags the bag it so hopefully it doesn’t get stolen lmao. (That happens a lot)
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Oct 24, 2023 20:49
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MarcusSA posted:Yeah not really a thing. This guy is just a moron who forgot he had it. Very very very few Americans will actually travel with a gun but you are allowed to travel with a firearm in your checked luggage Also here's an article on the incident as posted in the trump thread. It's even better because he got into a fight with some reporters lol. The Last Call posted:US Republican Senator Jeff Wilson arrested over carrying gun into Hong Kong, barred from leaving city
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Oct 24, 2023 20:59
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Some dude was caught on video pissing in a tsingtao beer tank
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Big rear end On Fire posted:Some dude was caught on video pissing in a tsingtao beer tank Did it improve the flavor or?
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Hey it's a perfectly acceptable fizzy water to drink while you eat bulk food.
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Imperialist Dog posted:A state senator from Washington State got arrested in Hong Kong yesterday because he arrived at the airport with his gun in his luggage They have video of the arrest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2zlPNGuPbw
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mobby_6kl posted:It's still mind-blowing because people outside the US don't just "forget they have a gun" because a) they don't have a gun or b) if they do, they don't just keep it in ther checked luggage, ever. like i'm sorry to say it but folks have had it pointed out a thousand times that the vast majority of americans do not own guns and most have no intention of doing so. pew research clocked it at 70% of americans not owning guns with only 10% agreeing with the question "could you see owning a gun at some point in the future, for any reason?" this was in 2017, when trump was in office and general insanity was more in vogue than it is in 2023. if anything it's gotten more slanted against gun ownership in recent years. defining an entire country and population by fewer than 3 out of 10 of its people has literally gotten people banned out of here for anti-Chinese racism multiple times in the past. there's zero chance of that happening here because Americans are always fair targets online, but it doesn't make the sentiment any less wrong or dumb.
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Oct 24, 2023 23:51
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I'm sorry the post hurt the feelings of 300 million American people
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Oct 24, 2023 23:54
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For every gun you don't buy I'm buying ten.
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we're not a bunch of insane gun nuts, says only nation where this regularly happens
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I once flew domestically in Canada with two guns but I just told the airline ahead of time  Ammo’s not allowed, but that poo poo’s heavier than you would ever want to pay to check anyway.
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Oct 25, 2023 00:49
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Stink Billyums posted:we're not a bunch of insane gun nuts, says only nation where this regularly happens We’re not a bunch of insane gun nuts, the insane gun nuts just have an outsized influence on American politics
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Oct 25, 2023 00:53
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I’m American and I don’t think I have a lot of guns because I have less than around ten. If I had 20, then it’d be a lot.
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Oct 25, 2023 01:00
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Basically 1/3 of americans have guns and only 1/3 of those have more than one. There are more guns in private hands than people in this nation. This doesn't even count police and military weapons.
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Oct 25, 2023 01:04
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Ok well that doesn’t change the fact that very very few actually fly with them (knowingly or not).
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MarcusSA posted:Ok well that doesn’t change the fact that very very few actually fly with them (knowingly or not). A locked gun case is the only thing TSA is not allowed to open it without you present.
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Oct 25, 2023 01:14
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Imperialist Dog posted:A state senator from Washington State got arrested in Hong Kong yesterday because he arrived at the airport with his gun in his luggage I hope they keep him.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I hope they keep him in prison.
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Mr. Nice! posted:A locked gun case is the only thing TSA is not allowed to open it without you present.
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I have 13 guns. I got very bored during Covid. I’m doing my part.
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quote:Shatin Magistrates’ Courts The last time I Shatin Magistrate's Court I was put in a cell for 2 days.
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Mr. Nice! posted:A locked gun case is the only thing TSA is not allowed to open it without you present. Can I get a really big one and use it as my entire luggage?
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The Lone Badger posted:Can I get a really big one and use it as my entire luggage? actually yes but this ends up being more a problem for you because of the size of that bitch
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One of the #luggagehacks that some photographers advise is getting a super cheap flare gun or starter pistol so you can legally upgrade to using the good locks on your expensive camera luggage
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Tunicate posted:One of the #luggagehacks that some photographers advise is getting a super cheap flare gun or starter pistol so you can legally upgrade to using the good locks on your expensive camera luggage Sure but then they will just steal the whole case.
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MarcusSA posted:Sure but then they will just steal the whole case. Yeah, but then the airport has to deal with all the bullshit paperwork for 'there is now an unsecured, stolen gun on airport property', which isn't something they like. All it stops is casual 'that looks expensive, I wonder what's in it', since everyone who deals with luggage has a TSA lock key set from aliexpress if they plan on stealing. If they're gonna divert the entire hard sided case into a company truck, you're still hosed.
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worrying about your bags getting stolen on a commercial flight is a little bit like worrying about trichinosis in your pork. you probably had a valid concern 50 years ago, but process, procedure, and oversight has gotten so good that both problems have functionally been eradicated. the entire luggage pipeline is heavily monitored and tracked because if you can steal a bag from any point in that pipeline, you can probably also slip a bomb in that same bag. that's kinda why i said messing around to use high-sec containers and locks is really just inconveniencing yourself. your bags are plenty safe normally, and high-sec kit isn't gonna stop any LEO. the whole "we can't open it unless you are present" thing cuts both ways - they will hold the bag hostage until you come to collect it, at which point they will open it. since you are there anyway, then they will slap cuffs on you if there's something in it they don't like. and in the 99.999% chance that nothing happens, you're just lugging around something twice as big and heavy as you actually need.
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I work at a major airport and bags get stolen all the time. Things also go missing from bags all the time. If someone really wanted to slip a bomb in a bag they absolutely could. All of the baggage handlers know exactly where the camera dead spots are and they can get in and out of a bag pretty drat fast. They already do it with drugs  Don’t pack an anything you really care about. It’s cheaper for the airline to every so often pay someone $2k for a lost bag than to actually increase security.
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