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WaltherFeng posted:I have been burned by SO games many times but this one does not look like poo poo. Ugghghhhh same. I think I'm gonna buy it...
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Kanos posted:The hardest part about the SO2 remake is trying to figure out who I'm cramming into my party on the first run, because 6 party slots(plus Claude and Rena) gets very tight when I simultaneously want to use my old favorites and also test if they improved some of the more lackluster characters. Same! With the Assault system, Noel might not be completely useless?? But I don't want to find out if it means I have to drop my faves. Just give me a bonus mode after you beat the game with both protags where I can recruit everyone please
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Nov 1, 2023 13:50
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Barudak posted:Ugghghhhh same. One of us. ONE OF US!
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WaltherFeng posted:I have been burned by SO games many times but this one does not look like poo poo.
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Nov 1, 2023 13:52
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Chaotic Flame posted:Same! With the Assault system, Noel might not be completely useless?? But I don't want to find out if it means I have to drop my faves. If you're planning to do two playthroughs you're good, since you can fit everyone in two playthroughs with one character reuse if you really love a specific character.
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Nov 1, 2023 13:52
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From that video review I linked: Rena route with Leon Dias/Leon aren't route exclusive anymore or the reviewer mispoke about choosing Rena's route
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Nov 1, 2023 13:58
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For some reason I thought this was next year. Now I’m stoked to be able to play tomorrow!
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Nov 1, 2023 14:10
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I’m probably 2.5 out of 3 hours into the demo and picked Rena after watching Claude’s first 15 minutes for context A white mage martial artist was not on my bingo sheet for what I expected from her, but I’ll take it Seems pretty fun so far, has a poo poo ton of QoL and I bounced super hard from the original and PSP releases years ago within like 30 minutes. Yeah, i think I’ll pick this up tomorrow because I want to play more
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Nov 1, 2023 14:18
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FractalSandwich posted:Not sure I'm willing to take some random Redditor at their word on that one. i mean blue reflection sun is a terrible mobage spinoff with a generic male protag made by none of the people who worked on any previous blue reflection games or anime that is probably desperate at this point to find some way to rope players in so it's not unexpected for it to be bad
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Nov 1, 2023 14:20
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Didn't the director say somewhere that they had never played the original games and didn't care?
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Nov 1, 2023 14:25
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I'm kinda interested on SO2, but... I got the remake of the first one and played until the sci-fi twist and then dropped it, but not to dislike but just... didn't play? And while this game has so much secret content or so I heard than I'd pretty much accept whatever it goes, the whole skill and making items and events kinda daunt me.
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Nov 1, 2023 14:33
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The Colonel posted:i mean blue reflection sun is a terrible mobage spinoff with a generic male protag made by none of the people who worked on any previous blue reflection games or anime that is probably desperate at this point to find some way to rope players in so it's not unexpected for it to be bad Like, I wonder how bad I could make the worst things in BR1 sound, if I hated the game and was editorializing for an audience who also hate the game (despite not having played it). Pretty bad, I'll bet.
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i mean what's there to editorialize. day one of the mobage's existence was already them confirming you'd basically be playing a male harem protag. you can't make the game sound worse than the devs themselves already stated it would be.
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Nov 1, 2023 15:42
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I suppose my big question is should I buy it for PC and then have steam deck options or for Switch.
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like you need to bear in mind that the depths of how bad a lovely low effort tie-in gacha can get, are much lower, than a mildly weird vita rpg. even using fgo as an example of one that does have a lot of effort put in it was definitely in those depths for a while in its early run and some of the material from that period that you still have to play through to get to anything good is like. So, So Bad. look at the higurashi gacha man. that game is, depressing
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:I'm kinda interested on SO2, but... I got the remake of the first one and played until the sci-fi twist and then dropped it, but not to dislike but just... didn't play? And while this game has so much secret content or so I heard than I'd pretty much accept whatever it goes, the whole skill and making items and events kinda daunt me.
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Nov 1, 2023 15:58
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Apart from Arc 2, what game fills the Star Ocean 2 niche of being a recommended classic in a series otherwise most people don't give a poo poo about?
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Apart from Arc 2, what game fills the Star Ocean 2 niche of being a recommended classic in a series otherwise most people don't give a poo poo about? Lufia 2 is the one that sprung immediately to mind.
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blue reflection 2 😈
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Apart from Arc 2, what game fills the Star Ocean 2 niche of being a recommended classic in a series otherwise most people don't give a poo poo about? Silent Hill 2
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SO2 is why I keep buying its absolute garbage sequels full of hope.
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Gyoru posted:From that video review I linked: Leon joins Rena temporarily during the Hoffman Ruins expedition, so it could be that. Saxophone posted:I suppose my big question is should I buy it for PC and then have steam deck options or for Switch. Load times are probably better on The Deck.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Apart from Arc 2, what game fills the Star Ocean 2 niche of being a recommended classic in a series otherwise most people don't give a poo poo about? Wild Arms 3, maybe? It's the only one in the series people can recommend without caveats anyways. Even 2, which is quite good, comes with the caveat of having a really bad localization.
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Shining Force 2 is a good one. I think only dedicated fans can possibly list off all the Shining Force games but anyone with a Sega and into RPGs has probably played Shining Force 2. Grandia 2 might be an personal pick for me. I hadn't heard of Grandia at all until Grandia 2 on the Dreamcast and I still have yet to play the first game, and all I know about the other Grandia game is something about a cool mom and the rest of it just sucks. Suikoden 2 if you squint, some people really seem to think the series just doesn't exist after 2 given how much praise it gets compared to the other installments.
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Rascyc posted:Shining Force 2 is a good one. I think only dedicated fans can possibly list off all the Shining Force games but anyone with a Sega and into RPGs has probably played Shining Force 2. Grandia 2 absolutely does not apply because Grandia owns
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Infinity Gaia posted:Wild Arms 3, maybe? It's the only one in the series people can recommend without caveats anyways. Even 2, which is quite good, comes with the caveat of having a really bad localization. Wild Arms 1 and 2 completely own
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Infinity Gaia posted:Wild Arms 3, maybe? It's the only one in the series people can recommend without caveats anyways. Even 2, which is quite good, comes with the caveat of having a really bad localization. Nah, Wild Arms 1 and 2 are both good.
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There's a spitting chance of Eiyuden Chronicle being the sequel to Suikoden II people wanted. The only problem is the name being a scary mouthful.
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Rascyc posted:Suikoden 2 if you squint, some people really seem to think the series just doesn't exist after 2 given how much praise it gets compared to the other installments. If you're gonna play a suikoden you should at least play the first 3. The rest are completely optional
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Man, I am so hyped to play SO2 again tomorrow. One of my top favorite JRPGs ever, and the remake looks so good. LibrarianCroaker posted:If memory serves, while most talents can be learned by using skills, Dexterity can't, and Dexterity is really important for pickpocketing, a thing which you wanted to do mostly when your party is split up and you only have your MC. Late on this, but iirc you can learn Dexterity, but it's a low chance from Metalwork or Machinery, so it's a pain in the rear end. So, easier to just restart until you start with it. Oh, and every character in at least the original had individual chances to either start with or learn a talent, and if you don't know about it, it could be really confusing. Like Claude had a 50% chance to start with Dexterity, and a 7.8% chance to learn it. While Rena had a 70% chance to start with Dexterity, and a 3.9% chance to learn it. Cyflan fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Nov 1, 2023 |
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fridge corn posted:If you're gonna play a suikoden you should at least play the first 3. The rest are completely optional 5's a solid game too.
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fridge corn posted:If you're gonna play a Suikoden you should at least play the first 3. The rest are completely optional I would personally put 5 over 3 though I think they're both worth playing. 4 is an absolute chore though. Suikoden tactics is also an interesting spinoff, not particularly great but a competent SRPG with a decently interesting story and probably the best way to experience the interesting setting of Suikoden 4 without slogging through the gameplay. Also just one of the more batshit reveals I think I've ever seen in a game.
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ImpAtom posted:Nah, Wild Arms 1 and 2 are both good. They're great. 2 having a kinda bad localization isn't wrong, though. Still loved it.
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disposablewords posted:They're great. 2 having a kinda bad localization isn't wrong, though. Still loved it. Yeah, even though I can barely parse what Liz is saying, I still love the game.
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Cyflan posted:Man, I am so hyped to play SO2 again tomorrow. Another nice thing about the remake: Dexterity/Nimble Fingers is guaranteed on Claude/Rena
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Fallout: New Vegas The first two are tied down by horribly slow and dated 90s turn based combat and the Bethesda games are Bethesda games and written for people post in IGN comment sections. New Vegas is the only one that threads the needle of being approachable and well written
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Gyoru posted:Another nice thing about the remake: Dexterity/Nimble Fingers is guaranteed on Claude/Rena It's most definitely not. I was resetting in the demo earlier, and I got multiple starts where Rena didn't start with Nimble Fingers. Unless the full game is different for some reason?
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Cyflan posted:It's most definitely not. I got it 10 times consecutively in the demo - 7 on Rena and 3 on Claude. Bamboozled by a streak 
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