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The Hausu Usher posted:It might be hard to remember what the landscape of horror was like in the early-2010's, but outside of a couple gems, it mainly sucked. Cabin in the Woods kind of summed it up and felt like a call to arms to let's get nuts. You might be thinking of the early 00's, because the late 00's and early 10's were one of my favorite moments for horror. Netflix streaming had just become viable and I remember discovering tons of creative indie DV horror movies. Think Pontypool, Absentia, Yellowbrick Road, Grave Encounters, The Signal, House of the Devil, Lake Mungo. It was like the rulebook was thrown out and every movie was a unique experience.
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When Evil Lurks was really good. Characters act a bit dumb at times which was frustrating at first, until I realized it's also about covid, and everyone was basically doing the 'I'm totally safe except I went to eat at a restaurant and was around 1000 people, but it can't possibly affect me!" thing Very fun, very nasty movie that creates a really unique world in the first few minutes and does a lot to explore it. Hell House LLC Origins was also really enjoyable. Solidly the 2nd best Hell House movie for me, I really liked the scares and they did a good job filling in some plot stuff from the first movies without it turning into a big exposition dump or totally killing all the mystery. There's definitely a few moments of "why the gently caress aren't you leaving right now, why are you filming this?" but overall I really had fun watching it.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:The Royal Hotel is a pretty dang good new Aussie thriller, real tense and nervy. Turns out the real horror is existing as a woman. I didn't really like it at all. It felt like it ended just as it was getting going, as well as building to things that never got addressed or resolved.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There isn't a single sequence from the first 3 V/H/S movies that seem anything like Eli Roth. Yeah I’m very bemused at the idea of Eli Roth directing Second Honeymoon or Slumber Party Alien Abduction. Seems like PS got so thrown by the dickhead frat boys in the first wraparound and Amateur Night it took him 3 movies to recover
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Blumhouse Production’s box-office blockbuster Five Nights at Freddy’s grossed $80 million when it opened, just days after the American broadcast debut of Morrissey’s legitimately terrifying new song “Sure Enough, the Telephone Rings.” Morrissey’s taunt, “You should tell little kids / They’re living in hell now” calls out the unserious Blumhouse agenda and our current political nightmare. The relentless, video-game-style paranoia of Five Nights at Freddy’s updates teenage scary-lore: Mike Schmidt (Josh Hutcherson) can’t get over the memory of witnessing his baby brother’s abduction and, after his parents die, becomes the guardian of his autistic kid sister, Abby (Piper Rubio), Mike compulsively relives his trauma, believing in dream theory, according to which “he walks through memory as if experiencing it for the first time anew, no longer a passenger but an active participant.” That Nightmare on Elm Street steal exposes Blumhouse’s juvenile shtick, yet Mike’s recognizable fears — encompassing unemployment, sex trafficking, parental abandonment, institutional distrust — evoke something real. In his first five night-shift stints as watchman at a disused ’80s amusement park/arcade mall — Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza Place — Mike stares glaze-eyed at security monitors, then drifts into violent 3-D incidents, His circumstance incarnates the hell that Morrissey sings about. But Morrissey zeroes in on present-tense shell shock. The song comes from his album Bonfire of Teenagers memorializing victims of the 2017 Islamic terrorist bombing of the Ariana Grande concert at Manchester Arena. Capitol Records still refuses to release the album. This censorship contrasts with Blumhouse exploitation movies (the Purge film series, Get Out, Us, M3GAN, Insidious), which contrive our acceptance of horror, keeping consumers in a state of anxiety — and without catharsis, same as the fake-news media do. Morrissey’s puckish perspective always scares pop-music traditionalists by exploring previously unspoken depths. “Sure Enough, the Telephone Rings” raises fears afloat in the culture — whether unwanted telemarketers (“Who wants my money now?”) or the daily evidence of political evil and vengeance that cannot be hidden from children. His complaint chugs along, its bridge recalling The Smiths’ “You Just Haven’t Earned It Yet, Baby.” These social vexations work as cultural criticism, pinpointing Mike’s terror — the panic of exasperated people going through hell, not dream theory. As a left-leaning, social-activist studio, Blumhouse manipulates political paranoia, selling it as inevitable. (Imagine Britain’s Hammer horror films but with less craft.) Only the most fanatical horror-movie devotees can ignore the shallow exploitation of Blumhouse products. So the coincidental release of Morrissey’s song acts as a counterweight to the half-baked ideas in Five Nights at Freddy’s. Otherwise, it’s another grab-bag of pop-paranoia clichés. Freddy’s place combines the arcade repository of National Treasure with the Safdie brothers’ Good Time. Mike protects Abby from the arcade’s oversized animatronic creatures — grisly embodiments of lost and dead children whose ghosts make the cartoon-figure robots move. Director Emma Tammi imitates how the Stranger Things kids similarly relive ’80s pop culture, with a little Saw-franchise torture-porn thrown in. One unexpected pleasure is seeing Mike disable the mutant bots, as if exacting revenge on Pixar and woke Disney and woke Sesame Street. We need our fears expiated, yet Hutcherson’s boyish face, a distressed child actor’s face, makes Mike’s adventures unsatisfying; he slips into solipsism. And an unfinessed subplot about a female cop (Elizabeth Lail) retaliating against her abusive father never attains the genius sympathy of the parental martyr’s punishment in De Palma’s Carrie. Consider the cultural concurrence of Blumhouse’s latest hit meeting Morrissey’s political humor and seriousness: one a threat, the other a warning. If we don’t tell children that lawfare is wrong, then you’re letting them think that political prisoners and irrational hatred and censorship are all excusable and good. We are living in hell now when our institutions, media, and politicians oppose our common interests. Morrissey’s counterpoint to Five Nights at Freddy’s tells us there are few childhood or adult amusements free from sexual grooming and political lies. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Skrillmub posted:I don't remember Sienna's dad being called abusive. He committed suicide and was up to something strange at the end of his life.
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pospysyl posted:Blumhouse Production’s box-office blockbuster Five Nights at Freddy’s grossed $80 million when it opened, just days after the American broadcast debut of Morrissey’s legitimately terrifying new song “Sure Enough, the Telephone Rings.” Morrissey’s taunt, “You should tell little kids / They’re living in hell now” calls out the unserious Blumhouse agenda and our current political nightmare. honestly i can barely even figure out what the gently caress armand is talking about these days, it's such a mismash of stuff that seems like he was half watching the movie and is throwing out right wing catchphrases whether or not they make sense at all.
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DeimosRising posted:Yeah I’m very bemused at the idea of Eli Roth directing Second Honeymoon or Slumber Party Alien Abduction. Seems like PS got so thrown by the dickhead frat boys in the first wraparound and Amateur Night it took him 3 movies to recover It's super spooky.
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:You might be thinking of the early 00's, because the late 00's and early 10's were one of my favorite moments for horror. Netflix streaming had just become viable and I remember discovering tons of creative indie DV horror movies. Think Pontypool, Absentia, Yellowbrick Road, Grave Encounters, The Signal, House of the Devil, Lake Mungo. It was like the rulebook was thrown out and every movie was a unique experience. I did say there were a few gems. I don't agree every new movie was a unique experience around then, but very much feel that has been the vibe since the mid 2010's. In my mind we broadly went from Paranormal Activity-a-likes, remakes and "extreme" horror to the horror resurgence we have now. And I love this era, it's much more my vibe. I don't think I enjoyed a horror cinema release between The Descent and Kill List. In saying that, not wanting to be too down on horror from around 2007-2012. Very open to more recommendations, I'll look for Absentia and Yellowbrick Road.
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Halloween Jack posted:Her best friend says it; toward the end he started getting abusive, especially toward her. The whipping scene seems to imply something about Sienna protecting Jonathan. I thought the same regarding art as her dad, and Dameon has a post saying something about it. I trust Welcome to the art club tho
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Probably going to watch the new hell house this weekend. I've been hankering for a found footage and you guys have hyped it up so here goes!
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Five Nights at Freddy's was not good. Just a real boring horror movie. I do appreciate though that it has ridiculously dark subject material.
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I'm a little late to "do horror movies actually scare you" chat but yes, apparently I'm one of the few horror fans that gets spooked on the regular. I stare at the side of the screen when I know a scare is coming and squint when the shot holds too long and then jump scare myself as I'm trying to fall asleep. What really sticks with me, though, is family horror. Kids or parents turning evil and whatnot. It's a horror genre to me the same way supernatural or slasher movies are and even if the movie is total garbage, if someone's mom starts terrorizing their kid, it's at least a 3 out of 5. When Evil Lurks is a 5
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DeimosRising posted:honestly i can barely even figure out what the gently caress armand is talking about these days, it's such a mismash of stuff that seems like he was half watching the movie and is throwing out right wing catchphrases whether or not they make sense at all.
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:You might be thinking of the early 00's, because the late 00's and early 10's were one of my favorite moments for horror. Netflix streaming had just become viable and I remember discovering tons of creative indie DV horror movies. Think Pontypool, Absentia, Yellowbrick Road, Grave Encounters, The Signal, House of the Devil, Lake Mungo. It was like the rulebook was thrown out and every movie was a unique experience. I feel the early 2010s are really known for the death of torture porn (thank God) and the rise of big-budget horror like The Conjuring and Jordan Peele's works later in the decade. The rise of streaming services as well allowed a hell of a lot of smaller, indie horror to find a wider audience that a Wal-Mart bargain bin couldn't do. Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 3, 2023 |
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CelticPredator posted:I thought the same regarding art as her dad, and Dameon has a post saying something about it. I must have missed that. I guess the implication is her dad became Art. Not sure I like that, your hero doesn't have to be traumatized to be strong.
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Halloween Jack posted:I finally saw Terrifier 2 and it rules. Thought it was more that Art hates her for taking her father's attention away from his... ART. Skrillmub posted:I must have missed that. I guess the implication is her dad became Art. Not sure I like that, your hero doesn't have to be traumatized to be strong. If he became Art it was in the same way a demon possess someone, a Doodle Bob erasing her dad to enter into the real world. e; Left ways to defeat him in his art if he couldn't stop it with The Exorcist gambit. e2; But that's just a theory. Am ART theory! MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Nov 3, 2023 |
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Skrillmub posted:I must have missed that. I guess the implication is her dad became Art. Not sure I like that, your hero doesn't have to be traumatized to be strong. I didn't get that at all, the dad becoming Art. He was obsessed with Art and how Art became Art, but his story sounded more of the sad hermit who collected all the facts for the heroine to connect. Like, he tried to find ways to stop Art but it just wasn't the right time and the right place. And he wasn't the right person, and it drove him to suicide. His daughter's traumatized either way.
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Enemabag Jones posted:I stare at the side of the screen when I know a scare is coming and squint when the shot holds too long Yeah, the side-eye and the squint are my moves as well.
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Grendels Dad posted:I didn't get that at all, the dad becoming Art. He was obsessed with Art and how Art became Art, but his story sounded more of the sad hermit who collected all the facts for the heroine to connect. Like, he tried to find ways to stop Art but it just wasn't the right time and the right place. And he wasn't the right person, and it drove him to suicide. Could be this too.
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Grendels Dad posted:I didn't get that at all, the dad becoming Art. He was obsessed with Art and how Art became Art, but his story sounded more of the sad hermit who collected all the facts for the heroine to connect. Like, he tried to find ways to stop Art but it just wasn't the right time and the right place. And he wasn't the right person, and it drove him to suicide. I like this idea better. I didn't really use enough words to say what I meant. She's traumatized by her father's death, of course. I mean the hero doesn't need to be the villain's child to be strong or her journey to have meaning. She can just be a strong person who can both get through the death of her dad and kick the gently caress out of Art. It just kinda feels like too often a woman hero needs to get through some poo poo to be strong. Just let her be the chosen one.
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Idk thats kind of being a horror protagonist in general. You need to get really really hosed up before you can take down the villain.
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Part of the fun of Terrifier 2 for me is that she is overcoming grief, but also becoming a big medieval super powered phoenix Valkyrie, which is both extremely awesome and incredibly funny
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I like the film turns the sword into a magic sword. It's great.
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Rewatching one of my favorites, Autopsy of Jane Doe Really really love this film
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Autopsy of Jane Doe is a great film. Super efficient script with palpable tension. Brian Cox and the kid were both good together too. Also the x of x name scheme reminded me of The Exorcism of Emily Rose where people tried to argue about the legal existence of ghosts and demons in court which made some of the best cinema ever created. Doltos fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Nov 4, 2023 |
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Doltos posted:Autopsy of Jane Doe is a great film. Super efficient script with palpable tension. Brian Cox and the kid were both good together too. Casting Tom Wilkinson is almost cheating.
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On the subject of X of X, as a kid I loved the book The Haunting of Alaizabel Cray. I remember hearing that studios once had plans to make it into a movie. It could have been interesting, but they probably would have made it basically Resident Evil-style action horror But For Kids instead of something a little more gritty but fun. It's a neat little book about the protagonist hunting demons that were summoned during a Victorian-era war bombing and eventually fighting a cult, so an ideal movie version would just be a live action Hellsing Ultimate.
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Dang what the heck how is the nun sequel actually good when that first one was such garbage?
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ruddiger posted:Dang what the heck how is the nun sequel actually good when that first one was such garbage? true of Annabelle as well
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DeimosRising posted:honestly i can barely even figure out what the gently caress armand is talking about these days, it's such a mismash of stuff that seems like he was half watching the movie and is throwing out right wing catchphrases whether or not they make sense at all. Obscurantism fails when you can just skip to the conclusion. White's complaining that the Five Nights At Freddy's movie isn't promoting Qanon, as the failure of any artwork to do so is a moral failure. RIP to his drat mind. DeimosRising posted:Yeah I’m very bemused at the idea of Eli Roth directing Second Honeymoon or Slumber Party Alien Abduction. Seems like PS got so thrown by the dickhead frat boys in the first wraparound and Amateur Night it took him 3 movies to recover They're evidently ranking the films based on a hierarchy of protagonist gender and skin color.
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Doltos posted:Also the x of x name scheme reminded me of The Exorcism of Emily Rose where people tried to argue about the legal existence of ghosts and demons in court which made some of the best cinema ever created. the 'this is a legal thriller' component of that movie is very funny. judge sits there the whole time like 
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DeimosRising posted:honestly i can barely even figure out what the gently caress armand is talking about these days, it's such a mismash of stuff that seems like he was half watching the movie and is throwing out right wing catchphrases whether or not they make sense at all. He's pretty much the contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. You can have a thousand critics praising a film with ten times that in the audience praising a film and he's going to go the exact opposite.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Armond White was a contrarian for a long time but ever since taking the NR post he's just followed the conservative script so now it's just that things are Woke or whatever. He's clearly not trying as hard as he used to. He's pretty much a caricature to laugh at by this point.
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Today's the 35th anniversary of the release of They Live, in case anyone needs an excuse to watch a brilliant film today.
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I'm getting acupuncture today for the first time and I'm tempted to ask the acupuncturist whether they've ever seen Audition
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