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Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1722106062243852670

it's just taking some iron dome from guam to israel

...

israel is out of iron dome so the pacific doesn't need all these idle patriot batteries

...

the usa needs eleven carriers to fight hamas

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Danann posted:

it's just taking some iron dome from guam to israel

China has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Good news!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-09/aukus-submarine-sales-timelines-revealed/103083780

First newly built nuclear-powered submarine under AUKUS likely to be sold in 2038, US admiral reveals

2038.

When I guessed 2040 ages ago I was joking. Please stop using my wild predictions as actual timelines

Fortunately that's so far away everyone today will have other jobs by then.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

gradenko_2000 posted:

China has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever

DancingShade posted:

Good news!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-09/aukus-submarine-sales-timelines-revealed/103083780

First newly built nuclear-powered submarine under AUKUS likely to be sold in 2038, US admiral reveals

2038.

When I guessed 2040 ages ago I was joking. Please stop using my wild predictions as actual timelines

Fortunately that's so far away everyone today will have other jobs by then.

lol that owns

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1722106062243852670

it's just taking some iron dome from guam to israel

...

israel is out of iron dome so the pacific doesn't need all these idle patriot batteries

...

the usa needs eleven carriers to fight hamas

make it an even dozen and I’ll throw in an extra iron dome

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 21 hours!

DancingShade posted:

Good news!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-09/aukus-submarine-sales-timelines-revealed/103083780

First newly built nuclear-powered submarine under AUKUS likely to be sold in 2038, US admiral reveals

2038.

When I guessed 2040 ages ago I was joking. Please stop using my wild predictions as actual timelines

Fortunately that's so far away everyone today will have other jobs by then.

Most of us forumgoers will be dead.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

gradenko_2000 posted:

China has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever

Would also be a very funny time for North Korea to fire a test rocket near Guam.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

mawarannahr posted:

Most of us forumgoers will be dead.

Yeah I didn't want to be morose about it. After my health issues the past couple years I'm just happy to be here, on this wild ride. Toot toot.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

DancingShade posted:

Good news!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-09/aukus-submarine-sales-timelines-revealed/103083780

First newly built nuclear-powered submarine under AUKUS likely to be sold in 2038, US admiral reveals

2038.

When I guessed 2040 ages ago I was joking. Please stop using my wild predictions as actual timelines

Fortunately that's so far away everyone today will have other jobs by then.

totally not weaseling on a word called "likely"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

gradenko_2000 posted:

Lea Salonga, an internationally-known Filipino singer who rose to fame in the lead role for "Miss Saigon", recently announced that she would be joining a play titled "Here Lies Love", a musical created by David Byrne and Fatboy Slim covering the life and times of one Imelda Marcos, spendthrift wife of former Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos Sr.

...

the problem is that the play dates back to 2013, and people reviewed it at the time:

...



quick update to this story from March

https://twitter.com/rapplerdotcom/status/1722604850079240535

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Incredible how much it looks like what's on the box. Where's the melted hosed up eyes?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1722596743999590469

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

what the gently caress?

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Regarde Aduck posted:

what the gently caress?

what’s to fear?

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Jel Shaker posted:

what’s to fear?
a wounded, r-worded animal can be very dangerous

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Jel Shaker posted:

what’s to fear?

about letting your guard down around the west? Everything

the west needs to be muzzled, not befriended

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

i used to listen to this soundtrack all the time before i realized it was about imelda marcos. i still do though because it rules, excellent music

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Regarde Aduck posted:

what the gently caress?

Edit, I read it as "US opinion on China" lol

Never heard of this Morning Consult before, so obviously somebody paid for this bullshit survey, we just don't have enough info to guess who yet.

My money is on the US tech giants (nVidia) who want to continue sell China $$$$ hardware.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 20:02 on Nov 9, 2023

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

YOU FOOLS, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022
wouldnt trust anything coming from axios

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

here's the link to the actual report

https://pro.morningconsult.com/analyst-reports/china-us-relations-2023-report

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Need to get good in Mandarin so I can warn them about the Great Satan

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

the morning consult lol

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

tristeham posted:

wouldnt trust anything coming from axios

wouldnt trust anything coming from maximo roboto

Soapy_Bumslap
Jun 19, 2013

We're gonna need a bigger chode
Grimey Drawer
They're just better people than us

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

mila kunis posted:

wouldnt trust anything coming from maximo roboto

https://twitter.com/ArchDuane4/status/402967033341431808

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

DancingShade posted:

Good news!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-09/aukus-submarine-sales-timelines-revealed/103083780

First newly built nuclear-powered submarine under AUKUS likely to be sold in 2038, US admiral reveals

2038.

When I guessed 2040 ages ago I was joking. Please stop using my wild predictions as actual timelines

Fortunately that's so far away everyone today will have other jobs by then.
morning or afternoon?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1722830528263721317

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

genericnick posted:

Need to get good in Mandarin so I can warn them about the Great Satan

corona familiar
Aug 13, 2021


kinda worried China's gonna get car brain from all this

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

corona familiar posted:

kinda worried China's gonna get car brain from all this

Too late for that, but they are equally train and mass transit brained which is good.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

chinese drivers are the most aggressive fuckers i've ever seen

corona familiar
Aug 13, 2021

GlassEye-Boy posted:

Too late for that, but they are equally train and mass transit brained which is good.

i'd honestly argue those are mutually exclusive with car brain. you can't reach car brain without the extensive car-focused infrastructure that prioritizes driver comfort and convenience, and that infrastructure destroys things that make mass transit viable

just the parking requirements alone would dwarf cities

corona familiar has issued a correction as of 09:30 on Nov 10, 2023

Samuel Glompers
Nov 26, 2020

corona familiar posted:

i'd honestly argue those are mutually exclusive. you can't reach car brain without the extensive car-focused infrastructure that prioritizes driver comfort, and that infrastructure destroys things that make mass transit viable

Chinese urbanism really does seem to try and mix all three, but I've never walked around a Chinese city so I really can't say how it works out. My guess: not well

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Walking in a Chinese city sucks rear end because the streets are so goddamn huge and traffic lights are not a given.

Like it’s better than some of the horror I hear about the US because at least there are proper sidewalks but it’s still miserable. That was my experience last month anyway.

corona familiar
Aug 13, 2021

Orange Devil posted:

Walking in a Chinese city sucks rear end because the streets are so goddamn huge and traffic lights are not a given.

Like it’s better than some of the horror I hear about the US because at least there are proper sidewalks but it’s still miserable. That was my experience last month anyway.

yeah, from what I remember the newer parts have ultra wide roads but also adjacent-but-separated motorcycle / bicycle / slow traffic loading streets and ultra wide sidewalks so it really was a mixed bag. the older parts of cities were dense as hell though and very walkable

its been a while and I didn't get a chance to go to brand new areas so hopefully there are some new developments that improve on those

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
You don't need a car to get around in big cities.

In small cities, you can still get around in 2 wheeled electric things and 4 wheeled micro cars.

So I wouldn't call China car brain.

It's just the middle class grows so fast they are still the biggest growing car marker in the world. Also the Chinese government subsidized alot of gas to EV transition in said market (not for the green energy reasons, but for energy independent reasons.)

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
interesting article from 2019 about Huawei sanctions with a look back though mao-era development of chips, aircraft and tech: https://redsails.org/emergency-measures/

quote:

Full original title: “Emergency Measures”: The Mao-era computer development strategy illuminates the path forward for Huawei out of their difficult situation.

I first read this article in 2019. It was published immediately after sanctions on Huawei were announced, and it’s been stuck in my mind ever since. It was harsh and it was critical, but it focused on the path forward, and what was to be done. On the whole, the article has aged extremely well — the author’s recommendations largely match what has been implemented by the government. At the same time, the author would surely agree that Huawei and other domestic firms have far exceeded the expectations that we had of them in 2019 and 2020.

This article encapsulates what I deeply appreciate about Utopia [乌有之乡] and its writers: they’re never afraid to criticize, but they’re always focused on the way forward, and draw their inspiration from past successes and victories. There’s much to learn here for us.
— S. F.

some good mao quotes:

quote:

Under the technological blockade of the U.S. and the Soviet Union, China could only follow the development route of domestic independent design and production. It was just as Chairman Mao said: “Blockade us. Blockade us for eight or ten years and China’s problems will be solved.”

quote:

In 1965, Chairman Mao returned to Mt. Jinggang, and on 25 May had the following conversation with Zhang Pinghua and Wang Zhuochao:

Why do we take the household responsibility system so seriously? China is a large agricultural country. If the foundation of rural ownership changes, the industrial base of China’s collective economy will be shaken. Who would we sell the products of industry to? Industrial public ownership would also change one day, and the polarization between classes would accelerate. From the first day of imperialism’s existence, they have looked at China’s vast market as an “eat or be eaten” situation. Today in all areas they have the advantage over us. When they attack us from within and without, how can the Communist Party protect the interest of the people, workers, and peasants? How can we protect the development of our own industry and national defense? China is a large country, and a poor country. Will the imperialists really let China become rich and strong? What would they be able to hold over us then? Relying on the breath of others to live, our country will never be safe.

Their capitalism has developed for hundreds of years, it is more mature than socialism. But China cannot go down the capitalist road. China has a large population, many ethnic groups, a long history of feudalism, unequal development between regions, and in recent years, imperialist oppression made the peoples’ lives unbearable and divided. If we engage in capitalism in such conditions, we would only become the slaves of others. The imperialists have advantages in energy, capital, and many other areas. The Americans both cooperate with and exclude the capitalist countries of Western Europe — how could they let a backwards China develop independently and then surpass them? In the past, China could not take the capitalist road. Today, I still say China cannot go down the capitalist road. If we did, we would be sacrificing the fundamental interests of the working people, which is contrary to the mission of the Communist Party. Class and ethnic conflicts in our country would intensify, and if not resolved, would be used by the enemy.

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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

comedyblissoption posted:

morning or afternoon?

Well I've got a job delivering US superjets that melt in the rain the morning of 2040 but I should be finished by 10am, if you take the day off I'll be there by 11.

Narrator voice: He didn't turn up at all that day. And calls to his mobile went unanswered.

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