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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

BounceBanana posted:

If you feel the character is worthless to you, I hear some people will pay a premium for characters with a really old birth date on the bazaar. I'd still just keep it myself, but it's an idea.

Wow that’s kinda weird but not I guess? I’m probably going to hold onto it for nostalgias sake tbh

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A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

Sapphic Socialism posted:

Yeah, they had this event where a new NPC faction (Triglavians) invaded a bunch of systems and eventually disconnected them from the stargate network and made them into their own region of space (Pochven) disconnected from Empire space. One of these was Niarja, on the Jita-Amarr route, so the new highsec route goes the long way around.

If you change your autopilot settings to Prefer Shorter, there's a 12 jump route but it goes through lowsec.

What has this done for the ~economy~ of high sec? I mean, it's good to direct folks to a choice between super safe and safe-ish, but the carebear demographic needs market access, right?

I am still processing the massive changes to the game. Like, these Triangle-obsessed Slavic themed Jovian descendents make some really neat ships? And now we have lightning ships from EDENCOM? Also, Mordu's Legion ships??? Also, pirate faction supercaps that cost more than a dozen standard Titans?!

Andohz
Aug 15, 2004

World's Strongest Smelly Hobo
I mean, Jita is the only HS trade hub that has any serious volume in most stuff, though Amarr is good for buy orders for wormhole stuff since it's weighted by having a bunch of systems.
Also, redfrog lets you get a freighter load to our rear end end of amarr from Jita for like 56m as long as the collateral is less than 1.5b

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Sapphic Socialism posted:

Yeah, they had this event where a new NPC faction (Triglavians) invaded a bunch of systems and eventually disconnected them from the stargate network and made them into their own region of space (Pochven) disconnected from Empire space. One of these was Niarja, on the Jita-Amarr route, so the new highsec route goes the long way around.

If you change your autopilot settings to Prefer Shorter, there's a 12 jump route but it goes through lowsec.

and iirc it was a goon-led drive which saw Niarja get taken into pochven, mainly because the baddies in Beeitnam were all based out of the south and removing Niarja made their logistics significantly harder

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Smegma Princess X posted:

I watched the 6 hour long doc and I'm thinking of coming back, what's new for an old goon with 63m SP to do that is new and exciting in Eve, but is still casual without needing to be terminally online or multibox accounts?

Edit: I've been gone for 5 years and only recently logged back on, still an alpha clone.

Living in stain with geese, also wormhole stuff.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Low-sec route between jita and amarr sees a good amount of stuff blown up but unsure how much is dumb people autopiloting in a basic hauler/freighter and people actively taking preparations w low align high tank stuff getting blown up anyway.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

ChaseSP posted:

Low-sec route between jita and amarr sees a good amount of stuff blown up but unsure how much is dumb people autopiloting in a basic hauler/freighter and people actively taking preparations w low align high tank stuff getting blown up anyway.

Ahbazon isn’t always camped, but even when it is I’d be fine with a br or maybe even a dst through it. It’s nowhere on the level of tama.

angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010
I usually blops on ahbazon for fun then move haulers through

Sometimes there are people in local that thank you for scaring off the campers, it's funny

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Smegma Princess X posted:

I watched the 6 hour long doc and I'm thinking of coming back, what's new for an old goon with 63m SP to do that is new and exciting in Eve, but is still casual without needing to be terminally online or multibox accounts?

Edit: I've been gone for 5 years and only recently logged back on, still an alpha clone.

do not play eve online

Dalmuti
Apr 8, 2007
nice meltdown

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.
I just looked at what you need to build caps and it's so weird. you need PI, T2 components, and wormhole gas to make capitals? did they change how gas works? did PI get an overhaul?

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Lady Militant posted:

I just looked at what you need to build caps and it's so weird. you need PI, T2 components, and wormhole gas to make capitals? did they change how gas works? did PI get an overhaul?

No, caps just got really expensive

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Lady Militant posted:

I just looked at what you need to build caps and it's so weird. you need PI, T2 components, and wormhole gas to make capitals? did they change how gas works? did PI get an overhaul?

didn't change how gas works, did change where ore spawns and so where certain minerals can be mined. Oh, and the PI required has been drastically reduced since the re-did capital industry initially. I'm still waiting for the amount of moon goo needed to come down

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
also, which one of you terrible geese honked in J5A earlier this evening?

The Bible
May 8, 2010

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

also, which one of you terrible geese honked in J5A earlier this evening?

Which of you terrible geese didn't?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Why TF did I buy an Iteron MkV??

I guess I was hella in to railguns too for some reason

The Bible
May 8, 2010

MarcusSA posted:

Why TF did I buy an Iteron MkV??

I guess I was hella in to railguns too for some reason

I had one of those blown up outside Amaar the other day. Guy didn't pod me for some reason so I thanked him but he rejected my chat :(

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?
Railguns are good, now. Hell froze over! I can smack someone with ~500dps at 200km with a basic fit!

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

The Bible posted:

I had one of those blown up outside Amaar the other day. Guy didn't pod me for some reason so I thanked him but he rejected my chat :(

Thinking back on it i think I bought it so I could AFK mine? Hell I don’t even know.

It looks cool AF though. Big space penis lookin ship

A Bad King posted:

Railguns are good, now. Hell froze over! I can smack someone with ~500dps at 200km with a basic fit!

lol are you serious? I legit think I maxed all the rail gun stuff lol

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

A Bad King posted:

Railguns are good, now. Hell froze over! I can smack someone with ~500dps at 200km with a basic fit!

You can track anything at 200km, railguns still bad for 90% of uses.

The Bible
May 8, 2010

I enjoy mining but rats are often in the system (F7-ICZ). What is a good ship to train into to clear them out?

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

The Bible posted:

I enjoy mining but rats are often in the system (F7-ICZ). What is a good ship to train into to clear them out?

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Horsebanger
Jun 25, 2009

Steering wheel! Hey! Steering wheel! Someone tell him to give it to me!

The Bible posted:

I enjoy mining but rats are often in the system (F7-ICZ). What is a good ship to train into to clear them out?

myrm's or ishtars are the premier ratting boats if I remember correctly.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

The Bible posted:

I enjoy mining but rats are often in the system (F7-ICZ). What is a good ship to train into to clear them out?

Myrm or Ishtar are premier ratting ships, but Mining Barges like the Procurer can tank a bit and throw out five medium drones to an Ishtar’s five heavies. It’s slower, but even a single Procurer + drones can take out a rat spawn of battleships with the caveat to watch your shields and maybe recall drones and warp off to build shields back up a bit before finishing them off. I mine in three Procurers or a Porpoise + two Procurers and 15 drones just melt belt rat spawns. And if you skill to Exhumers, a goddamn Skiff can tank just about anything rats can do all by itself.

Often I’ll make bookmarks of specific rocks with a covops ship, and if there are rats reship and deal with them, then mine. Not everyone multi-boxes, but mining is one of those activities that just scales well with a couple of accounts. As always, the real danger is other players.

The Bible
May 8, 2010

Thanks all, great info. I'm still in a Venture, but I'm making enough from mining that I'll be in something decent soon enough. I'll probably go the tanking route.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

The Bible posted:

Thanks all, great info. I'm still in a Venture, but I'm making enough from mining that I'll be in something decent soon enough. I'll probably go the tanking route.

Yeah, don’t overlook gas mining, either. A Venture with a Probe Scanner can make bank for a new player in Wormhole spaces huffing gas, enough to pay for a ship with one full hold of space farts. It’s riskier, and easier/safer in a Prospect, but Ventures are way more versatile than they appear and can do a new player good!

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Huffing gas in wormhole is basically the same as doing data sites, higher risk w/o covert op ships but cheap as hell and a way to learn not to get caught so I approve.

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

A Bad King posted:

Railguns are good, now. Hell froze over! I can smack someone with ~500dps at 200km with a basic fit!
The big ones at least. Medium rails are still made of disappointment unless you put them on an ENI, which fixes them with a 125% damage bonus.

Medium blasters are also a different kind of disappointment, unless you put them on an ENI, which fixes them with a 125% damage bonus.

Medium hybrids really need a buff, probably with a corresponding nerf on the ENI.

Smegma Princess X
Jul 27, 2012

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

do not play eve online

The easiest and correct answer, but I'm also very prone to making bad decisions and usually need to carry through those decisions to the end.

Das Butterbrot
Dec 2, 2005
Lecker.

floppyspud posted:

You can track anything at 200km, railguns still bad for 90% of uses.

250km rail nagas are great if you love receiving ~elite nanoganger~ hatemail :)

quote:

You have been added as a contact
(snip) has added you as a contact with Terrible Standing.

Loser in 300km naga

Das Butterbrot fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 13, 2023

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Hello friends, I see we have another new thread so I'll ask my yearly question about wtf is going on with the big players.

Pandafam is now official instead of being a collation of convenience?

TAPI are back?

Brave is now part of Imperium?

Do we still hate Imperium?

What is going on with the badlands to the south?

Is there going to be a big war anytime soon?

Can the question about what happened to goosefleet be answered without causing a massive derail?

TIA to SMG for answering these questions.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

notaspy posted:

Hello friends, I see we have another new thread so I'll ask my yearly question about wtf is going on with the big players.

Pandafam is now official instead of being a collation of convenience? Yes, but also no

TAPI are back? Lol no

Brave is now part of Imperium? Yes

Do we still hate Imperium? The vitriol isn't really there any more

What is going on with the badlands to the south? No idea, but PHART are probably going to start farming them for content

Is there going to be a big war anytime soon? See the last answer

Can the question about what happened to goosefleet be answered without causing a massive derail? Out of my remit

TIA to SMG for answering these questions. :cheers:

windex
Aug 2, 2006

One thing living in Japan does is cement the fact that ignoring the opinions of others is a perfectly valid life strategy.

notaspy posted:

Can the question about what happened to goosefleet be answered without causing a massive derail?

A spy that pretended to be a furry infiltrated an adjacent furry alliance that depended entirely upon spies not being willing to pretend to be furries as a security posture, copy and pasted a bunch of discord chat to reddit, made d'ceet sad, and in general posted bad on the internet and should be tried for their crimes.

Hope this helps.

Cast_No_Shadow
Jun 8, 2010

The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Can confirm was not negwalleted, banned or punished in anyway for the high crime of being a goose.

It was 60% Elusif being Elusif and 40% pubbies being pubbies on reddit.

Turns out we didn't have a giant botting rmt empire afterall.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
Botting t.a.c.o. is maybe the lowest level of Botting possible. It’s barely anything.

Smegma Princess X
Jul 27, 2012

Cast_No_Shadow posted:

Can confirm was not negwalleted, banned or punished in anyway for the high crime of being a goose.

It was 60% Elusif being Elusif and 40% pubbies being pubbies on reddit.

Turns out we didn't have a giant botting rmt empire afterall.

drat you Elusif!

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
So I basically soft-quit a year or so ago after the logs with Mittens calling a harassment victim "Amber Heard" came out. I'm sure there are many dramatic ways to answer these questions, but if anyone itt would answer them simply and directly I'd appreciate it.
  • Is the game in an okay-ish state? When I left it was sub-20K daily logins and dropping quickly.
  • Who's the CEO of GSF now? Last I heard Asher took over from Mittens, which seemed like a great way to burn out a genuinely good human being and leader (and FC).
  • Did any of the Delta squad bans get lifted? I'm not talking about the ones for people burning the neighborhood around them as they flung poo poo everywhere. I'm talking about the ones where someone posted, "Hey, maybe Mittens shouldn't be Dear Leader right now until we figure out how to deal with abusive behavior like this."

Thanks.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

notaspy posted:

Can the question about what happened to goosefleet be answered without causing a massive derail?

Actual answer: elusif (who has previously been known for massive botting and rmt operations, no idea why they let him in anyways) made an intel network for GooseFleet. When leadership learned that it used scripts and bots they removed him from the alliance. Reddit made a huge deal like everyone in the alliance was ok with it, leading to D’Ceet, who was running for csm, to drop out of the csm campaign, and the at-the-time ceo Siobhan/Dragonshardz to biomass.

GooseFleet is still very cool.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Ynglaur posted:

So I basically soft-quit a year or so ago after the logs with Mittens calling a harassment victim "Amber Heard" came out. I'm sure there are many dramatic ways to answer these questions, but if anyone itt would answer them simply and directly I'd appreciate it.
  • Is the game in an okay-ish state? When I left it was sub-20K daily logins and dropping quickly.
  • Who's the CEO of GSF now? Last I heard Asher took over from Mittens, which seemed like a great way to burn out a genuinely good human being and leader (and FC).
  • Did any of the Delta squad bans get lifted? I'm not talking about the ones for people burning the neighborhood around them as they flung poo poo everywhere. I'm talking about the ones where someone posted, "Hey, maybe Mittens shouldn't be Dear Leader right now until we figure out how to deal with abusive behavior like this."

Thanks.

Game is doing well, good new expansions are coming out and player pop is rising.

Asher is the ceo of goonswarm, whether he’s doing a good job is up to debate.

Not that I’m aware of, but I have heard people talking about that happening if goons have really changed. Some deltas might need to add to that.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I’m really interested in this FPS mode.

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