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madeintaipei posted:Right thread, IMO. They did. It's called the Commodore Ute. gently caress GM for killing Holden forever
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Raluek posted:one thing too is that the caprice is a b-body, which is a fullsize platform. the el camino has always been midsized. imo come up with a new name if you're gonna change something fundamental like that Yeah, but the OG El Camino was also full-size B body based so it'd be a bit of a bookend to have the final edition be the same. That, and outside of the F body, I don't think GM had a midsized rwd platform in '95.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Yeah, but the OG El Camino was also full-size B body based so it'd be a bit of a bookend to have the final edition be the same. oh yeah i forgot that they were fullsized before the a-body existed. don't really see a lot of those around. KakerMix posted:Ford has no idea what you are talking about. well, they're wrong to keep doing what they're doing. why the gently caress bring back the maverick name but now it's a pickup??? the truck seems kinda neat, but pick a new name that doesn't already mean something different.
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Raluek posted:oh yeah i forgot that they were fullsized before the a-body existed. don't really see a lot of those around. lmao In my mind I was specifically thinking of the Mustang Mach-E, and with Mitsubishi the Eclipse though I suppose they technically called it the 'Eclipse Cross'. At least with the Maverick it slots in a similar position that the OG one does, namely can't afford the big car get the small one instead.
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Raluek posted:one thing too is that the caprice is a b-body, which is a fullsize platform. the el camino has always been midsized. imo come up with a new name if you're gonna change something fundamental like that Size categories are based on interior volume, not exterior dimensions. And even if they were, the El Camino is plenty long enough to be "full sized".
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Finger Prince posted:Size categories are based on interior volume, not exterior dimensions. And even if they were, the El Camino is plenty long enough to be "full sized". ??? it's a chevelle with a bed on the back. if we just look at length for some reason, a 66 elco is less than 2 inches longer than a 66 chevelle, and over 14 inches shorter than a 66 impala. i guess i should have said "on the midsize platform" because i guess you're right, the cab is probably small enough to technically be compact, even if it's the same as a chevelle from the a-pillars forward (and most of the frame iirc). KakerMix posted:lmao christ, modern cars are garbage and dont do the maverick grabber dirty like that
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Raluek posted:one thing too is that the caprice is a b-body, which is a fullsize platform. the el camino has always been midsized. imo come up with a new name if you're gonna change something fundamental like that Belcamino Never forget what was taken from us. 
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Toyota brought back the crown as something between a full size sedan and a crossover Honda brought back the integra (the first time) as a moped
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MrYenko posted:Belcamino gently caress I hate that Pontiac grill so much.
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Wild EEPROM posted:Toyota brought back the crown as something between a full size sedan and a crossover The Crown has been in continuous production since 1955 as a sedan, and remains so, they've just added a crossover to the Crown nameplate alongside. I believe they're bringing back an estate version too for the first time since the 170 series.
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MrYenko posted:Belcamino I actually saw one of the few of these in person. It was white (body in white pre-production) and made me smile and sad simultaneously. I'm sure it's been crushed by now. 
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Wild EEPROM posted:Toyota brought back the crown as something between a full size sedan and a crossover Saw one of those recently, and it's as WTF in person as it is in photos. Just a big bloated thing. Fits right in with the BMW X6 and MB whatever-the-gently caress that thing is. GLE, I think? CaptainTofu posted:The Crown has been in continuous production since 1955 as a sedan, and remains so, they've just added a crossover to the Crown nameplate alongside. I believe they're bringing back an estate version too for the first time since the 170 series. Not in the US. None of those except the fat sedan.
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Suburban Dad posted:I actually saw one of the few of these in person. It was white (body in white pre-production) and made me smile and sad simultaneously. I'm sure it's been crushed by now. I saw the one they brought to new car shows back when Pontiac still existed.
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Darchangel posted:I saw the one they brought to new car shows back when Pontiac still existed. Yeah, same here. It was probably the same one in that picture up thread. They had it. Right there. Live and in color. And then... 
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Darchangel posted:Saw one of those recently, and it's as WTF in person as it is in photos. Just a big bloated thing. Fits right in with the BMW X6 and MB whatever-the-gently caress that thing is. GLE, I think? That's true but it hasn't been brought back, it's just evolved considerably in the decades since the US last got them. e; it's also worth noting that all 'modern' (90s onwards) Crowns have been tall and awkward looking when completely stock. Check out what Aimgain have done with the crossover, it looks loving great.  http://aimgain.net/products/aero/35crown_jvipexe/index.html CaptainTofu fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Nov 13, 2023 |
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So, all you have to do is make it practically undrivable? edit: also, taking low angle photos like that to hide the absolute bloated whale proportions is cheating.   That said, somehow I don't hate the Sport wagon   It's still to fat, though. At least they reduced the gaping maw. edit to the edit: according to Wikipedia, there will be an actual Crown Sedan later this year or next. Of course they built the useless "crossover" first, and chose that to bring the name back to the US. We are the world's foremost experts on "fat and bloated" after all. Darchangel fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Nov 13, 2023 |
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Humphreys posted:gently caress I hate that Pontiac grill so much. I fixed it for you. 
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Powershift posted:I fixed it for you. Wrong thread
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Powershift posted:I fixed it for you. You monster.
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CaptainTofu posted:That's true but it hasn't been brought back, it's just evolved considerably in the decades since the US last got them. The CUV atrocity aside, the recent Crowns have been fine? About what I'd expect for a stock sports sedan 
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Darchangel posted:So, all you have to do is make it practically undrivable? Pretty sure it's bagged but even 50mm higher than that at a totally reasonable driving height it'd look great. Stock 170, 180 and 210 series crowns all look awkward and huge (kudos for the 200 for not being as bad). They're massive top of the line high luxury cars crammed full of ultra high end kit, not a BMW M3. E; see above for the 200 actually being pretty decent 2nd E; I realise I'm sounding confrontational but actually I agree that the crossover looks bad, I just think it's more a factor of ride height than anything. It's a bit slab sided but nothing some skirts and wheels won't fix, and previous crowns have all ended up with aero as manufacturer option with this likely being no exception. CaptainTofu fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Nov 13, 2023 |
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Dr.Smasher posted:Wrong thread Buuuuutttt....... We don't have a "cars that should be loving burned to the ground and crushed in to a cube and forgotten about" thread.
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Both of these own for different reasons. https://twitter.com/WilliamByrdUSA/status/1724068719091994855?t=q9w-jvo1sGRK6pxID3u8FQ&s=19
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mobby_6kl posted:The CUV atrocity aside, the recent Crowns have been fine? About what I'd expect for a stock sports sedan That's the old one, isn't it? CaptainTofu posted:Pretty sure it's bagged but even 50mm higher than that at a totally reasonable driving height it'd look great. Nah, it's the "old man pants up to his armpits" waistline, same as all the other "crossover sedans". Olympic Mathlete posted:Both of these own for different reasons. To be fair, you don't drive a Midget. You wear it like pants.
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Who buys Toyota Crowns? Who is the target market? Old people and taxi firms. Who appreciates the ease of ingress and egress afforded by higher seating and ride height? Old people and taxi passengers. So why does the global release Crown make an attempt to look "cool"? Because you have a bad back and bad knees and you're getting on a bit, but you don't want to admit it yet. Toyota Crown. Not the car you want, probably the car you need.
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Darchangel posted:That's the old one, isn't it? The previous one or one befor that I think. Post 90' though. Cool camper:    https://www.theautopian.com/an-engineer-converted-this-1957-ford-f-100-panel-truck-into-a-camper-and-its-incredible/ mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Nov 13, 2023 |
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Darchangel posted:That's the old one, isn't it? Yeah it's the 2008-2012 model. And I can't disagree with the high beltline.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Both of these own for different reasons. 
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The big Lincolns are hilarious because depending on what they're parked next to they either look huge or small.  That's a 2 series.
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mobby_6kl posted:The previous one or one befor that I think. Post 90' though. Room for an entire gasoline generator under the hood...
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 The only information I have about this is that it's at the beginning of "The Australian Bite"
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Finger Prince posted:ease of ingress and egress afforded by higher seating and ride height Normal sedans are infinitely easier to get into the back of than SUVs though? At least as a completely healthy 6'1" guy in his 40's. Maybe elderly japanese people have a secret. I always feel like a 7 year old climbing up
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It's the Great Australian Bight - this bit here:  I'm sure locals will chime in, but given the location and the thick red dust, it's safe to assume they're crossing the Nullabor on the Eyre Highway. 1000mi+ including "90 Mile Straight" - 91 miles of dead flat straight road.  They're fuckin keen doing it in that thing!
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Powershift posted:I fixed it for you. This is the only appropriate grill design. 
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The Holden grille is best but I don't think the Pontiac one was that bad. Unlike the BMW one  Darchangel posted:Room for an entire gasoline generator under the hood... Haha I didn't even notice that! Looking through some other photos there and it seems to have a window AC stuck through the rear doors, I'm guessing you can run it directly with the generator. 
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Ether Frenzy posted:Normal sedans are infinitely easier to get into the back of than SUVs though? At least as a completely healthy 6'1" guy in his 40's. Maybe elderly japanese people have a secret. I always feel like a 7 year old climbing up The crown isn't an SUV though, it's just a tall sedan or whatever you want to call it. You don't have to climb up into it. If an SUV or truck is like getting on a bar stool, and a sports car is like sitting on the floor, the crown would be more like sitting on an office chair. A regular sedan is more like, I dunno, a standard height toilet.
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Ether Frenzy posted:Normal sedans are infinitely easier to get into the back of than SUVs though? At least as a completely healthy 6'1" guy in his 40's. Maybe elderly japanese people have a secret. I always feel like a 7 year old climbing up Big Ol jumbo American full size SUV’s yeah, probably not so good, but the regular size compact SUV or crossover are usually much more sensible height.
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Finger Prince posted:The crown isn't an SUV though, it's just a tall sedan or whatever you want to call it. You don't have to climb up into it. If an SUV or truck is like getting on a bar stool, and a sports car is like sitting on the floor, the crown would be more like sitting on an office chair. A regular sedan is more like, I dunno, a standard height toilet. You haven’t actually seen a Crown, have you? It’s a “crossover sedan”. It’s every bit as tall as a CUV, because it is, without the “U”. No it’s not as tall as a full-on SUV, but it’s taller than a sedan. Seating position is at least a foot higher than my Crown Victoria.
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Darchangel posted:You haven’t actually seen a Crown, have you? So like the Accord Crosstour?
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Darchangel posted:You haven’t actually seen a Crown, have you? I've seen them, but not the inside. Point is, Toyota's own press material markets the car as "easy to get in and out of". It's not a car built for its driving dynamics.
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