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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

World War 1/2 influences are still the strongest, just from the sheer number of guards in a squad to them all carrying a backpack and bedroll like they're on the march.

The largest influence from Aliens is the torso armor and shoulder pads. Aliens itself is a parody of Vietnam war too.

And, lol, never noticed that the marines started out in the movie with not m4s

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bij
Feb 24, 2007

Yep, the not-M4s are flamethrowers.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Lostconfused posted:

World War 1/2 influences are still the strongest, just from the sheer number of guards in a squad to them all carrying a backpack and bedroll like they're on the march.

The largest influence from Aliens is the torso armor and shoulder pads. Aliens itself is a parody of Vietnam war too.

And, lol, never noticed that the marines started out in the movie with not m4s



Even better, that m16 is the squad flamethrower.

E: fb

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Ok, GW wins this one, 40K marines have the cooler flamethrower.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Ashcans posted:

Cadians are really similar to the designs for the infantry from Starship Troopers, but the timing doesn't work out for them to be actually ripped off. I guess they have a common inspiration, probably the Colonial Marines from Aliens.

I mean the Cadian's initial release doesn't work out with the timing but its hard to say that the later kits didn't pull at least a little from Starship Troopers, particularly in the most recent kit

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

When half your points are infantry squads:

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



S.J. posted:

Even better, that m16 is the squad flamethrower.

Presenting: the first flamethrower that jams!
*Taps forward assist, nervously.*

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

moths posted:

Presenting: the first flamethrower that jams!
*Taps forward assist, nervously.*

ohgodohgodohgod

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

moths posted:

Presenting: the first flamethrower that jams!
*Taps forward assist, nervously.*

historical flamethrowers were very unreliable, for reasons that make sense if you've ever had occasion to use an airbrush or spray can or spray bottle

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





AnEdgelord posted:

I mean the Cadian's initial release doesn't work out with the timing but its hard to say that the later kits didn't pull at least a little from Starship Troopers, particularly in the most recent kit

You are right that the original release of Cadians does not work out, as that was 1995. But the 3rd edition 40k Cadians look pretty different from the more current Cadian style released in 1999, 2 years after the release of Starship Troopers. Looking at the helmet changes it is hard to not think that Starship Troopers played into the thought process of the design changes. The odd pieces of the helmet where the chin strap attaches certainly seems to be the biggest area of similarity.





Devorum
Jul 30, 2005

Super Waffle posted:

You can probably find an old Imdomitus box (or just the necron half) for pretty cheap, I think that comes with everything you'd need for the new combat patrol and then some.

Heres a reasonably priced option:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1159760614...2.c101506.m1851

You'd still need the Doomstalker.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

There ain't no warboss with attack squigs available anywhere.

But I can kitbash nobs + AoS runtherd into a bunch of them.

I have a couple 40k Runtherd arms with Squig plus an old metal Warboss arm with an Attack Squig if you want them

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting

Professor Shark posted:

I have a couple 40k Runtherd arms with Squig plus an old metal Warboss arm with an Attack Squig if you want them

The warboss with attack squig just came back into stock last night so I bought that. Thanks for the offer though!

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Have my first ever attempt at painting a mini:


Honestly, I'm proud of it, and while it could be better in a lot of ways, that'll only come with time and practice.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

As your first go, that's pretty solid. The rifle could need some highlights to make the black pop a little but the uniform looks good.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

iospace posted:

Have my first ever attempt at painting a mini:


Honestly, I'm proud of it, and while it could be better in a lot of ways, that'll only come with time and practice.

Not bad! I like the grey and white scheme too

T-Square
May 14, 2009

Legendary Ptarmigan posted:

If you're interested in an Indomitus necron half new on sprue and in the US, send me a pm. I've got one to move.

May be interested in this route, sent you a PM


Thanks everyone else for the suggestions as well. Now I just need to think of what army I want to start with myself.



Orks?

Decorus
Aug 26, 2015
Yeah, that looks just fine. White is a really tough colour to get right.

If I may, I'd like to offer some advice for batch painting that color scheme. Your white plates have no shading currently, but you can fix that without really having to add extra steps.

If I was going to paint this particular scheme, I'd paint both uniform and armour grey. Then do the brown bits, and wash the entire model however you like to do it. Finally, go over the armour plates with a white colour, but without flooding the areas with white. Instead, do a more controlled application on the plates themselves, but leaving the areas between them untouched. Not quite drybrushing, since you want to avoid hitting other areas, focusing on the top of the helmet, shoulders etc. Any areas you miss will seem to be in shadow/dirty, side rims and bottoms of the plates. If the white is a bit translucent, you can still do a final drybrush on the helmet and shoulders.

Here's an example. For the uniforms and armour on the crew on this cannon I did the following (ignoring other parts):
1. paint everything an olive green
2. wash the uniform part
3. drybrush the armour with a lighter green



It's not perfect, but you get a lot of shading very easily. And the two greens end up looking really different. And when you paint platoons of dudes, you really want to save time as much as possible.

Tangy Zizzle
Aug 22, 2007
- brad
i've always liked to think of my astra militarum guys as the mobile infantry from the first 1/2 of Starship Troopers

they have no idea what is going on and are beset on all sides by horrifying nightmare xenos beasts

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry

iospace posted:

Have my first ever attempt at painting a mini:


Honestly, I'm proud of it, and while it could be better in a lot of ways, that'll only come with time and practice.

That's a great colour scheme for imperial guard! I remember using almost exactly that for the imps in dawn of war multiplayer

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Yeah I did my Kill Team kriegsmen with red pants. I like how the kit even has ww1 period flashlights as one of the bits you can add

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
I kind of hate painting black and I'm gonna regret this down the line, but I've settled for a raven guard force (because they're so fukken cool) and I've cemented my commitment with this jetpack captain, who will soon have five leaping intercessors battle buddies

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
you can do your own bird gimmick thing and not paint them black

Ghislaine of YOSPOS
Apr 19, 2020

raven guard kinda need to be painted black for the whole stealth thing imo.

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry

Cease to Hope posted:

you can do your own bird gimmick thing and not paint them black

Oh sure, but being brooding, dorks and tacticool (while painted black) is what makes them so cool :downs:

Captain Magic
Apr 4, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.
Painted all my Deathwatch black and tbh I would have preferred a really dark blue or black-grey looking back on it in order to help establish some shadows, but gently caress if I’m gonna change now.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

raven guard kinda need to be painted black for the whole stealth thing imo.

Stark black with white heraldry is immensely more noticeable in the dark than a dark natural tone, especially grey or midnight blue

Night Lords win again. Checkmate loyalists.

Realtalk though try it, paint a swatch of black and swatch of really dark blue and compare in a really dark place. You almost see real pitch black unless you’re in a cave or something. For mini painting this means that using the base as a nearly-black blue, grey, brown, or green with black in the shadows ends up looking blacked than using true black as the main colour.

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Nov 16, 2023

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Stark black with white heraldry is immensely more noticeable in the dark than a dark natural tone, especially grey or midnight blue

Night Lords win again. Checkmate loyalists.

they have streaks of white lightning and skull masks and gold trim and cover themselves with rotting flesh trophies

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Pretty sure Raven Guard are boosted by a supernatural stealth bonus. A gift from their Primarch.
Which I think Night Lords have as well. :v:

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc
Real ravens are kind of blue-black

You could paint your Ravenguard like grackles. Grackleguard.


Cease to Hope posted:

they have streaks of white lightning and skull masks and gold trim and cover themselves with rotting flesh trophies

The lightning is so they blend in on stormy nights, duh. They only attack when people are telling spooky stories.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
stealth tactics such as wearing rocket packs so they can get close enough to hack people up with chainsaws

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Cease to Hope posted:

they have streaks of white lightning and skull masks and gold trim and cover themselves with rotting flesh trophies

The rotting flesh smell helps them blend in on most worlds

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


the real trick is being infiltration specialists wearing iridescent blue-green armour with silver trim

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe
Target is offering a 25% off deal that would apply to the Space Marine board game. You have to sign up for their rewards program, but that's it.

Seems like a good deal just for the miniatures.

Also I've been meaning to ask - are movement trays not popular anymore? I'm thinking of printing some just to keep things organized.

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Improbable Lobster posted:

Definitely a big Aliens influence, as well as general WW2 aesthetics. I was mostly tongue-in-cheek with that, but they are a mishmash of a bunch of different militaries.

It felt very American because I have a platoon of original metal Cadians lead by a Lieutenant, who is wearing an American style military cap with a shotgun, cigar in mouth, and a big fat belly. More of the Guard officers should look like they don't spend much time actually fighting and more time eating to well imo.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Failson posted:

Target is offering a 25% off deal that would apply to the Space Marine board game. You have to sign up for their rewards program, but that's it.

Seems like a good deal just for the miniatures.

Also I've been meaning to ask - are movement trays not popular anymore? I'm thinking of printing some just to keep things organized.

I think they might not be popular for during the game for smaller units, like a 5 person tactical squad, but might have more viability for a big horde squad. But it kind of depends on terrain. On the other hand, your models are likely to spend most of their time on display as opposed to playing, so making a nice movement tray for them can be a good way to transport and display them easily after games. Especially if you have built in magnet holes or whatnot. I use my laser to make movement trays/tray holders for some armies and scenic boards for other armies. My Space Marine army uses the little plastic clear bases that came out with Armageddon and I copied the outline of them and laser cut a wood board to accept about 750 points or so of Marines and based up the whole board so it looks really cool, and the movement trays help a lot with that. Then for my guard I have more classic display trays cut out of wood and instead of matching the terrain the trays have names and ranks and the wood grain is embellished with stains and poly to look more antique.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Colonial marines are on some Space Marine tier organization because they have a lieutenant leading a 9 man + 1 sergeant squad.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Lostconfused posted:

Colonial marines are on some Space Marine tier organization because they have a lieutenant leading a 9 man + 1 sergeant squad.

What is even more wild is that they took the ship, only loaded it with half a platoon of guys and some extra business guys and sent them out there. I just read the entire fan wiki page on this and it turns out that the relatively small platoon is 25 members including leadership and dropship/tank crew. The squads are 4 members split between a gun team of 2 and a rifle team of 2 and an NCO. Two squads and slightly more senior NCO make up a unit. Two units and a LT. are a Platoon. So in this case they had half a platoon in units, but full strength HQ and vehicle crew. Which seems odd. It also seems odd that supposedly the ship could be staffed up to 90. So they could have brought a lot more guys with them. I guess it makes sense that they didn't, considering Burke was trying to get a specimen back and whatnot and too many people might make that hard to do/keep secret or whatever.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

IncredibleIgloo posted:

I just read the entire fan wiki page on this

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IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011






Sourced by fans, as opposed to Fox or WB making the page. It seems to just list the events of the movies, books, novelization, and graphic novels. It seemed relatively researched from a bunch of the associated material made for the movie/universe.

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