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ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

zoux posted:

Which are the moral nation states? Just so I know.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I mean, yes, you are free to brave new levels of pigheaded ignorance and stupidity if you wish.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Jaxyon posted:

You mean the Germany that took notes on how to be evil from America?

I'm willing to hold up my end on the US being a particularly bad demon cracker nation.

"Writing eugenics texts is even more morally evil than organizing the Holocaust" seems like a bad argument to make that point.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Nov 16, 2023

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Writing eugenics texts is even more morally evil than organizing the Holocaust seems like a bad argument.

Yeah and if I was making that argument, instead of the "Germany based it's treatment of the Jews on Jim Crow, slavery camps, and the indigenous genocide" one, you'd have a great point!

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
On a purely practical level, the US has only had about a quarter of a millennium to do bad things. Most of Europe and Asia has had way, way longer to get a head start

haveblue fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Nov 16, 2023

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Jaxyon posted:

Yeah and if I was making that argument, instead of the "Germany based it's treatment of the Jews on Jim Crow, slavery camps, and the indigenous genocide" one, you'd have a great point!

I just think any argument about how uniquely evil something is where you are starting with the premise that the Holocaust is obviously not as bad as X is not a great move rhetorically to make that point.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I just think any argument about how uniquely evil something is where you are starting with the premise that the Holocaust is obviously not as bad as X is not a great move rhetorically to make that point.

Thanks for the advice, I hope whoever is making the arguments you are responding to sees this.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Antigravitas posted:

I've observed the same. American Eceptionalism seems to be completely hardwired and impossible to deprogram them from.

I think that part of the issue is that American culture is so insistent on it being an exceptional shining city on a hill, that when people realize it's not they somewhat naturally fall into the zeal of the convert. It takes a while to chill out when you first realize it's bullshit.

kiminewt
Feb 1, 2022

The entire Blowback podcast is just that for ten episodes, if you're up for it.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Is America uniquely evil? Yeah, sure. But let me tell you about the British Empire!

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

https://x.com/willmenaker/status/1725297993601970225?s=46&t=6HOSYVrXffESMo0NlyR0Lg

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Jaxyon posted:

Yeah and if I was making that argument, instead of the "Germany based it's treatment of the Jews on Jim Crow, slavery camps, and the indigenous genocide" one, you'd have a great point!

Lol that you think caste and segregation based on any or all arbitrary criteria are American inventions. Much less slavery and indigenous genocide which are recorded as far back as there are records.

Like, did you spend even thirty seconds considering how absurd arguing that these things are uniquely American is?

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

zoux posted:

Which are the moral nation states? Just so I know.

i dunno I hear belgium is nice this time of year

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!

sugar free jazz posted:

i dunno I hear belgium is nice this time of year

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Seem cold. Could use 5 more digits.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Murgos posted:

Lol that you think caste and segregation based on any or all arbitrary criteria are American inventions. Much less slavery and indigenous genocide which are recorded as far back as there are records.

Like, did you spend even thirty seconds considering how absurd arguing that these things are uniquely American is?

They aren't, but Hitler specifically cited American slavery and extermination of the indigenous population in his unpublished second book as one of his major inspirations for those things

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1725327960041763114

MVP!

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008


yeah that’s celsius though because it’s Europe so pretty balmy pretty sure

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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https://twitter.com/SpeakerBoehner/status/1725288377400828359

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

John you’re drunk!

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Taylor Swift now officially bigger than Jesus.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1725456242133610714

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!

I genuinely respect it takes effort to find a picture of Boehner where he doesn’t have a drink in hand

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Thaddius the Large posted:

I genuinely respect it takes effort to find a picture of Boehner where he doesn’t have a drink in hand

Oone of his hands isn't visible :tinfoil:

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
John Boehner becoming a weed lobbyist who attends Taylor Swift concerts to try and get celebrities to give him money for weed (and tobacco) is one of the weirdest twists in modern politics.

His current job title is "Chair of the National Cannabis Roundtable."

haveblue posted:

Oone of his hands isn't visible :tinfoil:

Click the picture to see the full image. He has a plastic cup full of wine.

Aztec Galactus
Sep 12, 2002

gently caress you, got mine, got out

The alternative is to become Mitch Mcconnell and that looks way less fun

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

https://x.com/ctvnews/status/1725500107800428755?s=46&t=6HOSYVrXffESMo0NlyR0Lg

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Check your kerning and font size, folks.

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?
https://twitter.com/AllezLesBoulez/status/1724953307976794607

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

drat he got old. and also horny

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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cat botherer posted:

drat he got old. and also horny

No, he just got old.

They don't call him "Johnny Boehner" for nothing.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Check your kerning and font size, folks.



Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Check your kerning and font size, folks.


zoux
Apr 28, 2006


haha jesus

https://twitter.com/DrRupaMarya/status/1726077065726927051

Simple as.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Ghost labor is a big problem.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Let’s start with inflammation, we have lots of good lotions and pills for that already

V-Men
Aug 15, 2001

Don't it make your dick bust concrete to be in the same room with two noble, selfless public servants.

In all fairness they did back in the 90s.

AvesPKS
Sep 26, 2004

I don't dance unless I'm totally wasted.

Is that like what happened to Carthage?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Epic bacon futures up huge

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

zoux posted:



Epic bacon futures up huge

Another one of Musky's famously accurate predictions

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