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Interesting that they seem to be setting up a coup against the Soviets as a bad thing.
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The 1991 Soviet coup attempt was, in fact, widely seen as bad in the west.
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Nov 18, 2023 03:06
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The 1991 coup was a bad thing. What’s unusual about portraying it that way?
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Nov 18, 2023 03:24
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The fall of the Soviet Union was the greatest failure of progress in human history since the collapse of the French Republic op, of course it's bad
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Nov 18, 2023 03:47
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Given how many times they've started a season with Ed being in the wrong only to turn things around by the end I fully expect him to be on the union side by the end of the season (somehow ending up in charge of the whole thing.)
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Nov 18, 2023 04:59
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Comrade Fakename posted:Interesting that they seem to be setting up a coup against the Soviets as a bad thing. Comrade Fakename posted:Interesting that they seem to be setting up a coup against the Soviets as a bad thing. lol did you just deliberately double post because you hit the last post of the page?
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Nov 18, 2023 05:19
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muscles like this! posted:Given how many times they've started a season with Ed being in the wrong only to turn things around by the end I fully expect him to be on the union side by the end of the season (somehow ending up in charge of the whole thing.)  But also, Ed is in the wrong viz Kelly and going to Earth to be a grandpa. Though I guess the team-up could mean Kelly ends up bringing her own Mars company to Mars, with blackjack and life-seeking sentinel droids.
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Nov 18, 2023 05:38
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In the FAM universe under Gorbachev the USSR has apparently seen a massive increase in living standards and freedoms, and his opponents up to now have been portrayed as those wanting to return to older Soviet values. How could that coup not be a bad thing?
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Nov 18, 2023 05:39
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They've probably got a lot of footage of Putin they want to use in the next season.
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Nov 18, 2023 05:44
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I'd rather they just say that a random FSB agent died of being a little bitch baby and move on.
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Nov 18, 2023 05:46
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muscles like this! posted:Given how many times they've started a season with Ed being in the wrong only to turn things around by the end I fully expect him to be on the union side by the end of the season (somehow ending up in charge of the whole thing.) First Ambassador of Mars to the UN
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Nov 18, 2023 05:53
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pretty good episode up until the Margo part and the pace became absolutely glacial look at Margo, her life is boring so we will make the scenes boring. she doesn't have any friends so we'll make this part feel like not having any friends. someday this will all be relevant for a reason also the mars upstairs/downstairs splitscreen scene hurt my puny human brain and felt extremely on-the-nose
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Nov 18, 2023 08:10
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Good ep Gorillaz in a world with no Iraq War feels wrong
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Nov 18, 2023 10:05
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Senor Tron posted:In the FAM universe under Gorbachev the USSR has apparently seen a massive increase in living standards and freedoms, and his opponents up to now have been portrayed as those wanting to return to older Soviet values. How could that coup not be a bad thing? Did you watch the 2001 news segment? The divide between rich and poor is growing rapidly in the Soviet Union and people are turning against Gorbachev to get back to socialist worker roots
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Nov 18, 2023 10:28
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They are not necessarily mutually exclusive statements. Absolute standard of living can rise while inequality within the society increases at the same time.
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Nov 18, 2023 10:37
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Gorbachev gonna get Mussolini’d outside a Pizza Hut
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Nov 18, 2023 14:06
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Vegetable posted:The 1991 coup was a bad thing. What’s unusual about portraying it that way? Yeah, no poo poo. I’m saying that it’s interesting that a big-budget American TV show made by the Apple corporation would portray it that way. Wafflecopper posted:lol did you just deliberately double post because you hit the last post of the page? For whatever reason the forum posted it twice and because I only saw the one post on the new page, I didn’t notice.
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Nov 18, 2023 17:15
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show continues to portray foreigners as inscrutable aliens even now that we have a viewpoint character in the USSR lol although nothing will ever top North Korea yeeting two guys to Mars on a suicide mission for no reason because they're just so wacky
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Nov 18, 2023 19:24
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I’m pretty sure they are using North Koreans as stand ins for China since Apple has a ban on portraying the Chinese government in anything that can be perceived in a negative light
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Nov 18, 2023 19:48
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Which is funny because they finally did add in China to the space race but they conveniently are doing their own thing, and I'm sure are not making any mistakes and are perfect and great.
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Nov 18, 2023 19:52
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They should just never mention China at all. It would be funnier if their attempt to placate China ended up implying it was some backwater completely irrelevant in world affairs 
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Nov 18, 2023 20:12
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Unfortunately, in this timeline Comrade Deng was not able to come to power and theorise Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, and China therefore never became a world power on the basis of its strong market economy.
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Nov 18, 2023 20:24
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You get the sense that the back two episodes of Season Three had some pretty big reshoots. The North Korean subplot is foreshadowed in earlier episodes, but only in voice over / newscasts (which would have all been filmed at the same time for budget reasons, easy for pick ups). Plus that would explain the potential Russian abortion plot cliffhanger melting into thin air.
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Nov 18, 2023 20:42
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90sgamer posted:Did you watch the 2001 news segment? The divide between rich and poor is growing rapidly in the Soviet Union and people are turning against Gorbachev to get back to socialist worker roots Good
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Nov 18, 2023 20:47
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I love this loving show
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Nov 19, 2023 00:10
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it would be great if they went in a Moon is a Harsh Mistress direction
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Nov 19, 2023 03:38
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With weird polycules?
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Cojawfee posted:With weird polycules? The proles are already bunking in sin
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Nov 19, 2023 06:46
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ugly rear end cybertruck looking CGI garbage robot, and they're still hyping up black elon lol. i'm rooting for space communism asap
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Nov 19, 2023 07:50
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Ed’s a piece if poo poo, but you gotta be real dumb to go all the way out to Mars on a two year bid to somehow make less money pre-bonus than you did stateside. There’s just no way. How would you not have any idea what would happen if you needed to go home early?
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CubanMissile posted:Ed’s a piece if poo poo, but you gotta be real dumb to go all the way out to Mars on a two year bid to somehow make less money pre-bonus than you did stateside. There’s just no way. How would you not have any idea what would happen if you needed to go home early?
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Vegetable posted:Most people don’t choose unfair labor conditions Maybe he should have chose to read his contract before leaving Earth lol
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CubanMissile posted:Maybe he should have chose to read his contract before leaving Earth lol He probably looked into the moon one, not the Mars one.
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Nov 20, 2023 01:10
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Scummy hiring practices seem too far-fetched for this alternate history sci-fi universe.
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Mister Bates posted:although nothing will ever top North Korea yeeting two guys to Mars on a suicide mission for no reason because they're just so wacky I've got bad news for you about North Korea.
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Fun little production mistakes: - the Soviet cops were wearing modern Russian police uniforms with the word "Politsia" on the back, which wasn't really a thing. The Soviet and early Russian police system was called "Militsia" and this only changed with the police reforms under Medvedev some time around~2010. The Soviets didn't want to use the word Politsia due to its association with the widely despised Tsarist police system. - Margo's house had a bell and intercom system at the entrance and AFAIK this also wasn't a thing in the Soviet Union. Apartment house entrances usually weren't locked and everyone could just walk up to your apartment door. - Russian cops rolling up in freaking Mercedes Sprinters lol Also it was pretty surreal to see Margo walking down a modern eastern European street full of vintage Soviet cars. Took me completely out of the episode. But I can't really blame them for that. It's not like they can film in actual Russia or build a working time machine on a TV show budget. Some random thoughts: - Mars colony being turned into a lovely 19th century company town and then revolt has been done to death in sci-fi, so I'm not that excited for that plot. On the other hand, the alien Mars life thing is pretty fresh and I like where it's going. A great chance for Ed to get his brain infected by Mars microbes and either die or become immortal from it. - Occasionally the lazy writing on this show sucks so much that it breaks my suspension of disbelief. Like, the naive but good hearted all-american working class hero that is just too dumb to read his contract before signing and going on a dangerous two year job on Mars(and didn't even think to ask what happens if he needs to quit the job and return to earth early). And the months long training for the mission of course didn't teach even the most basic information about their future home and work place like the layout of the base. I'm resigned to this being a dumb soap opera show now though and I'm still onboard till the end.
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lovely company town might be played out but it's what's going to happen as soon as capitalism starts a colony on another planet.
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Lol this thread has obviously never worked a real job if "how could he get suckered punch by lovely working conditions" is the take Vulnerable people with no other means getting exploited????? Lotta big brains in here
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GABA ghoul posted:Fun little production mistakes: Man thank god I'm a world-class olympic-level suspender of disbelief
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good post
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