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ZombyDog posted:Maybe it's a regional thing, or because my experiences with people using voice is like 1 in 5 games, but I haven't come across any dicks. Only one Ogyrn RPer as well One too many, methinks!!!
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ninjoatse.cx posted:I think it's like Deep Rock Galactic. The players that know their role and the game don't need more than the game's ping. Only newbs/pricks use the voice chat. using VC for call outs and loling at physics fuckery is fine and I do it all the time. 95% of people I hear on VC are chill. My view is certainly skewed now since i only pub Damnation and haven't dealt with xbox pubbies stuck in Malice or Heresy, I'm sure that broadens the pool enough you meet some shitters. but lol at only newbies and prick using VC.
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Nov 20, 2023 22:46
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Running out of ammo is a huge concern for damnation now. You save your ammo for specials, which really takes away from the veteran's role of taking out enemy shooters. Big problem with the revolver, still a problem with everything else. I find the maps now have dense enough swarms of everything on them that regular shooters aren't as dangerous because there's always something between you and them!
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Nov 20, 2023 22:59
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Evil Kit posted:using VC for call outs and loling at physics fuckery is fine and I do it all the time. 95% of people I hear on VC are chill. I PUG Damnation all the time and never use VC. Arguing with one rear end in a top hat is one time too many to be honest. I don't feel like I'm losing anything by not being on VC but I'm not going to tell anybody they're stupid for doing it.
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Mendrian posted:I PUG Damnation all the time and never use VC. Arguing with one rear end in a top hat is one time too many to be honest. I don't feel like I'm losing anything by not being on VC but I'm not going to tell anybody they're stupid for doing it. you don't have to argue with anyone? Usually it's just a medium for me to skip typing something out, or call out a "nice" at the Ogryn rocking a mutant. I'm not gonna blast anyone for not using VC as to each their own.  Of course people may or may not hear you anyway, the equalization on mics is fuckin' abysmal as usual for multiplayer games. I can hear like half the people that actually talk in VC.
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Nov 20, 2023 23:12
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Evil Kit posted:you don't have to argue with anyone? Usually it's just a medium for me to skip typing something out, or call out a "nice" at the Ogryn rocking a mutant. I'm not gonna blast anyone for not using VC as to each their own. I'm saying that I've had to argue with an rear end in a top hat on at least one occasion, which is enough reason for me to never want to do it again.
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My only real complaint about voice chat is that the little speaker next to their portrait needs to persist about 3 seconds after they're done speaking (color changed when they're not actively speaking) so I know who to mute.
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I use brain burst and purgatus and swapped away from empowered to warp charges and it has honestly been nice. The extra damage from the charge stacks combined with increased cooldown for and peril reduction from venting shriek have been more useful that the empowered brainburst felt. I just need a way to get even more ranged crit chance or the soulblaze perk for my melee
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Nov 20, 2023 23:26
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I have more trouble aiming brain burst than any weapon with iron sights. I always get the dork next to them. 
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ninjoatse.cx posted:I have more trouble aiming brain burst than any weapon with iron sights. I always get the dork next to them. One trick I’ve used is to aim a little higher than head level since most elites have taller models. It helps a little, but sometimes you still get stuck on a little nerd
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Nov 21, 2023 00:07
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I'm not roleplaying an ogryn I'm just dumb
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Nov 21, 2023 01:10
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If I'm playing a veteran is the best bet to have an infantry lasgun and a plasma gun available as weapons depending on the team? I find the charge Las is decent, but the infantry model is more reliable. I always take a power sword because it seems like the best weapon for taking on just about anything. What's a good choice as a flex weapon? Just trying to be a bit efficient with spending resources since I just hit 30. I think the chainaxe is pretty fun and works well with voice of command to make a joke of specials.
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JBP posted:If I'm playing a veteran is the best bet to have an infantry lasgun and a plasma gun available as weapons depending on the team? I find the charge Las is decent, but the infantry model is more reliable. Honestly play whatever you like and feels fun. Personally, I think Plasma answers a lot of questions the game asks of you (massed crushers/maulers), and I have been rocking the mk IV devil’s claw as a counter to the masses of zerkers via the parry button
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As a psyker, am I right in saying that taking prescience will stop you from getting venting shriek?
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Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:I'm not roleplaying an ogryn I'm just dumb i'm both
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id like to work on a 4th weapon for my zealot, what's the recommended? i have a crit evisc, a thunder hammer, and good ole crit axe working atm. any word on the swords? i hear the catachan devils can do work against even carapace armor with the parry function
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Try building a chainaxe and pairing it with a flamer. The chainaxe eats armor and the flamer eats hordes.
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i tried that with the axe but i just find it unacceptable in the higher diffs to not be able to kill ranged and disablers at all im afraid
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TescoBag posted:As a psyker, am I right in saying that taking prescience will stop you from getting venting shriek? I had to pull up the build editor to be sure but yes this is correct. IMO Seer's Presence is the way to go which allows you to take Venting Shriek if that helps you at all 
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There’s a woman at my work walking around and some phone app of hers sounds exactly like a distant poxburster. Was seriously confused until I figured it out.
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Further Reading posted:I started playing this after bouncing off the beta and I'm having a blast. I feel I made a huge mistake choosing the ogryn voice that isn't the ex-military guy though. I like the vaguely Eastern European voice. Ex military is hilarious tho. His “Yes Sah!” makes me giggle: JBP posted:If I'm playing a veteran is the best bet to have an infantry lasgun and a plasma gun available as weapons depending on the team? I find the charge Las is decent, but the infantry model is more reliable. Just got a good Plasma (I think). Damage is 79 and all the stats are 70s but heat. That was 50. Not even green yet so hoping I can build that up once I get Plasteel. Any good get guides like the Ogryn one on steam? Middle tree vet aside from ammo regen aura and have some questions. Is the “20% chance to proc a second grenade” worth it if I’m going krak and regen grenade already? I like the regen grenade and “refresh grenades on ammo boxes for the entire team” but am forgoing the extra damage on grenades and “+50% aura”, Longshot, Keep their heads Down, Competitive Urge AND Iron Will. Are any of those the better option for a point? Since I’m middle tree vet and might be giving up my recon las for plasma I’m reassessing my melee options. Really love power sword (mk6) or the chainsword but want to make sure I’m not overlooking knife. I know there are other options but it’s between those three due to plas, money and current inventory. Any suggestions?
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toasterwarrior posted:also some dudes here have been talking up the heavy laspistol. any good for zealots? is it a decent alternative to the revolver if you have good anti-armor melee? I think it’s pretty solid, provided you can click heads. But also I’m still leveling up my zealot so I haven’t tried a laspistol on the higher difficulties.
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DogsInSpace! posted:I like the vaguely Eastern European voice. Ex military is hilarious tho. His “Yes Sah!” makes me giggle: Heat is a really bad dump stat on Plasma, sorry to say. It'll do you fine for now but I would keep an eye out for a better plasma or just roll Brunt's with your dockets at 30.
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edgar_ posted:BB is fine, at least in running random Damnation pugs. I have a build that uses Purgatus, Brain Burst, Venting Shriek, and Empowered Psionics along with all the soulfire talents for free & fast BBs and it's a ton of fun & damage. It's an alternate version of the one I typically run with Assail & Warp Charges - in that build, I use Assail to deal with shooters and specialists. The BB version is more powerful against bosses and elites but weaker against average shooters. I mean it can work but it's so much more fiddly and annoying to use compared to either of the other Psyker Blitz abilities* plus it still has the issue that due to how slow it is to use normally that 99% of the time you try and use it someone else will just shoot the thing you're trying to burst, at this point I'd rather it be reworked to be an instant cast ability that just automatically killed anything its cast on that doesn't have a monstrosity/boss health bar and just make it fill your peril bar to 90% *and honestly I hate using them too, Assail has always been too brainless(and now in its nerfed form is kind of mediocre) and the other one just feels bad to use in pretty much every respect(and most people I see using it play like complete morons)
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drrockso20 posted:I mean it can work but it's so much more fiddly and annoying to use compared to either of the other Psyker Blitz abilities* plus it still has the issue that due to how slow it is to use normally that 99% of the time you try and use it someone else will just shoot the thing you're trying to burst, at this point I'd rather it be reworked to be an instant cast ability that just automatically killed anything its cast on that doesn't have a monstrosity/boss health bar and just make it fill your peril bar to 90% if you can't make brain burst work, gotta be honest just gonna say skill issue at this point. It's a very good ability with a strong niche and a particular use case. Takes some practice to recognize when to use it and you can certainly have your time wasted occasionally by teammates, but the use cases far outweigh that slight downside. Assail is the odd exception out for being so brainless. Evil Kit fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Evil Kit posted:if you can't make brain burst work, gotta be honest just gonna say skill issue at this point. It's a very good ability with a strong niche and a particular use case. Its not that I can't use it it's more that by the time I get done casting it more often than not someone else will have already killed the thing, it's just plain idiotic how slow an ability it is to use in a game as fast paced this one is Also gently caress you
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drrockso20 posted:Its not that I can't use it it's more that by the time I get done casting it more often than not someone else will have already killed the thing, it's just plain idiotic how slow an ability it is to use in a game as fast paced this one is there's a difference between "I don't like brain burst" and "brain burst is a bad ability". It feels bad to whiff brain burst for sure, but if you're doing it constantly then either your target priority is off or you have a really crack team staying on top of things. Or you're playing a lower difficulty than Damnation and it's easier to stay on top of threats coming at your team. It's irritating seeing people constantly post that something is bad when it isn't, it's okay to say you don't like something but you recognize it as viable, useful and even strong. See: me and knives, and a large swath of melee weapons that I don't like using but recognize the strength of. Apologies for insulting you though, that was uncalled for. Evil Kit fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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I'm not saying its unusably bad, what I'm saying is that it's needlessly slow and awkward to the point that it actively detracts from the practicality of its use case
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And I do not agree, but I've had a lot of time to practice and get used to it. You can also make use of the right click pre-charge which is a bit finnicky but bypasses the issue if it's a specialist you know is coming from afar. There's also the ability modifier that gives you a much faster charge + reduced peril cost when you use your active ability. If BB charged any faster naturally (and they have buffed it to feel better to use already) it'd probably start bordering on a bit too strong. Evil Kit fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Evil Kit posted:And I do not agree, but I've had a lot of time to practice and get used to it. You can also make use of the right click pre-charge which is a bit finnicky but bypasses the issue if it's a specialist you know is coming from afar. There's also the ability modifier that gives you a much faster charge + reduced peril cost when you use your active ability. I think I'd be ok with seeing BB instead of seeing assail most of the time for a change, but then I don't play my psycher that often.
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Is there a feedback forum somewhere? Is that what Steam community boards are? The increases in difficulty and game length have really slowed my weapon crafting. I dislike it. I have all four classes at 30 so I can't just roll a new character for variety. Maybe I should cover my ogryn in +gold since he's the only one I can semi-reliably complete damnation pugging with.
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Does Veteran not get access to braced autoguns? That's a shame, but the infantry ones are still good. I think today's hotfix also chilled out the director a bit.
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BB pretty much requires empowered psyonics for me, mostly because of the speed. I just tried a round with BB/warp charges and the slowness was painful, unless I burned a venting shriek to speed it up but I like to keep that banked.
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TaurusTorus posted:I think it’s pretty solid, provided you can click heads. But also I’m still leveling up my zealot so I haven’t tried a laspistol on the higher difficulties. In my experience so far… it’s decent. Really good ROF, hip fire accuracy and extra ammo so it’s not gonna one shot dudes but it still kills Boomers and snipers just fine and softens up other targets my eviscerator finishes off. Best thing about it is the ammo as I can let vets chew through ammo and refill only when they turn it down and I’m groovy. It’s my preferred range on my Zealot but I roll 90% (at least) melee. Pretty much just treat it like VT ranged: specials or when I’m waiting to regen toughness with my crew. drat Dirty Ape posted:I think I'd be ok with seeing BB instead of seeing assail most of the time for a change, but then I don't play my psycher that often. My Psyker is my main and I love BB. Lower difficulties I felt it was hardly used but malice (?Third tier?) and up its great. Pops specials easy. Big hammer boy that’s hurt and about to flatten Zealot? Pop. Sniper in the background? Pop. It gives me a nice range my purgatus and vent shout lack. I don’t miss smite or assail but I don’t begrudge anyone who rolls that. I will say teaming with a smiter is more preferred on mid difficulty and up as the two of us just keep the horde stunned so the rest can mop up. I doubt smiter gets kill credit but he’s very effective and helps my soul and warp damage spread. Assail does not. Just my experience as flawed as it is. Edit: thank you for the plasma and get advice. I’m sadly already 30 so will try to buy some more. What’s a good heat stat on plas?
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Arc Hammer posted:Does Veteran not get access to braced autoguns? That's a shame, but the infantry ones are still good. they absolutely do, the only human-sized gun vets dont get access is the flamer
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edgar_ posted:BB pretty much requires empowered psyonics for me, mostly because of the speed. I just tried a round with BB/warp charges and the slowness was painful, unless I burned a venting shriek to speed it up but I like to keep that banked. I really should try BB with enhanced psyonics sometime, but I'm so addicted to max shout cooldown with warp charges...
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Anecdotally—I was finally able to pug a malice game on the zealot I've been leveling. Granted, it was an incredibly close scrape because everyone's brains fell out for the last 7 minutes of the mission, but I feel like the director of yesterday would not have suffered us to live. So maybe it's changed?
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