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Steve Yun posted:does test2treat ask for insurance info They do but I just clicked "uninsured" and it went through just fine. I have also used my real name and details for Paxlovid stuff but just said I was uninsured and never had any issues. Maybe at some point in the future after some audit the government will decide they have to send blue cross some money but it isn't like you are legally obligated to use your insurance for stuff if you don't want to.
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Nov 21, 2023 17:30
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I didn't need any insurance info or a picture of a positive test for Test2Treat.
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Nov 21, 2023 17:47
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:A few pages back, but I assume this is only the 200M? I have the 400M and I'm smoothbrained and dumb and always thought it was flush enough but maybe I'm wrong and it's got a gap? My 300s and 400s seal as far as I can tell. The filters have a foam strip on the outside. As with any HEPA stuff online I assume a bunch of it is counterfeit/3rd party stuff not up to standard with Coways actual product
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Nov 21, 2023 17:48
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Treatment for Post-COVID Parosmia (where things smell off, often perceived as rotten) tested in this small study and seems to be working well: "Stellate Ganglion Block with CT Guidance for Post-COVID Parosmia" https://press.rsna.org/pressrelease/2023_resources/2472/abstract.pdf posted:PURPOSE News article on the matter: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/10-minute-procedure-may-repair-distorted-sense-smell-covid-survivors posted:10-minute procedure may repair distorted sense of smell in COVID survivors What is it? https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/17507-stellate-ganglion-block posted:(..) Pingui has issued a correction as of 18:54 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Nov 21, 2023 18:52
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Fell Mood posted:Thanks. I've had a stress test at a cardiologist, apparently no blockages. Kind of late replying to this, but while your symptoms don't fit POTS it is a common post-COVID symptom. Gonna just kind of describe my experience to see if there's any similarities that you could bring to a doctor to get actual treatment. POTS is a poorly understood cardiovascular thing where one sub-type is that your blood vessels don't constrict properly when you need them too (eg. standing up, bipedalism is hard) so your heart compensates with palpitations/tachycardia. POTS fits my experience with post-COVID heart weirdness, which is thankfully the less scary kind of heart weirdness compared to pericarditis/myocarditis/etc. POTS apparently didn't show up on my holter in a way that the test lab flagged, but my doctor said it was there just mild. I can tell with a fitbit, which is unscientific, but helps with the "oh poo poo I've been standing up for 10+ minutes and my heart is pounding, that's why I feel bad." Its gotten a little milder over the last 21 months but I imagine a lot of it is just simply being being better at managing it. Its often not correlated with high blood pressure (possibly low) and IANAD, just someone who's mad about post-COVID stuff.
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Nov 21, 2023 19:15
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Nov 21, 2023 20:15
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Feeling kinda bummed today that we're basically exactly where we were a year ago as far as long term treatments and prospects go. Nasal sprays are still in the "Can't hurt but who knows if they really help" category. Vaccines are insufficient and almost no one gets them anyway. Paxlovid helps if you can get it but access isn't great. And there are no 2nd generation vaccines or nasal vaccines coming online. This is just life now.
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Nov 21, 2023 20:19
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Thoguh posted:Feeling kinda bummed today that we're basically exactly where we were a year ago as far as long term treatments and prospects go. Nasal sprays are still in the "Can't hurt but who knows if they really help" category. Vaccines are insufficient and almost no one gets them anyway. Paxlovid helps if you can get it but access isn't great. And there are no 2nd generation vaccines or nasal vaccines coming online. This is just life now. Aren't we actually a little worse off, with that VA study says Pax doesn't do much to prevent long COVID? There are other therapeutics coming online, but seemingly no great urgency to get them to market.
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Nov 21, 2023 20:44
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Aren't we actually a little worse off, with that VA study says Pax doesn't do much to prevent long COVID? Pax rebound also seems to be increasing, it was supposedly around 1% back when it came out now it's >10%. My wife and I both had pax rebound.
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Nov 21, 2023 21:01
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RandomBlue posted:Pax rebound also seems to be increasing, it was supposedly around 1% back when it came out now it's >10%. My wife and I both had pax rebound. Are you sure it's not 100%? I literally have never heard of a case of someone not having significant or major rebound after the pax prescription ends. It seems like it's close to 100% in this thread anyway.
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Nov 21, 2023 21:22
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 I got a call from the dude who fixes our mowers about a maybe-2-years-past-due bill. (He's going to send it and if I can't find evidence I paid it, I will pay it!) Anyway he asked "how are you doing?" and I said "well, I have COVID...". Expected maybe mild sympathy or something. Did not expect a strong worded and evidence based spiel about how we all need to be very very careful about returning to a normal level of activity any time soon, backed by his own anecdote and the story of a close friend who went back to working 14-18 hr days as soon as they felt better and both ended up in the hospital almost dead with AFib within a few months. Vermont is kind of a weird state, there was less vax hesitancy here than most places and people have been somewhat up front about all this, but I was pretty loving floored to hear all this from someone I've spoken to maybe 20 minutes total in my life, who clearly was only taking the time to try to protect me. That feels weird in America 2023. That said, I am taking his advice strongly on the nose; the only substantial manual labor this time of year is pulling loads of wood in from the shed to the basement, and I am gonna pay one of my friends whatever it takes to make that problem go away for a month or so. If this was 1970 I'd be like "gently caress, this is gonna wreck the first six weeks of my ski season" but lol slopes were barely open until Christmas last year and this is an El Nino year.
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Nov 21, 2023 21:25
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also, "Paxlovid Mouth" sucks but it is an excuse to sip dr pepper literally all day the effect also seems to wane significantly by the time it's time for another dose, which somewhat puts the hypochondriac in me at ease that it is just an annoying direct reaction to the drug which is very likely to clear up within a day or two; also even being worried about that probably means I am doing a lot better than yesterday, which involved a lot of staring at a wall wondering, "I'm probably not dying but if I were how would I know it and do I care??" Rescue Toaster posted:Are you sure it's not 100%? I literally have never heard of a case of someone not having significant or major rebound after the pax prescription ends. It seems like it's close to 100% in this thread anyway. lol if the 100% is remotely accurate why is the thread hype at all on Pax, are the people doubling the length of use having better outcomes? My boss was on pax for 5 days last week and said he thought it did what it was supposed to as far as he could tell; he's had covid twice before. I thought the 1% I was seeing was extremely unrealistic but also I think if it was anywhere close to 100% we'd know that, as well. Pharma hocking placebos gets overlooked plenty but if people were having significant medical re-admissions or further medical contact, even if the medical infrastructure is so broken that no one noticed, the CMS and myriad insurance pattern-matching algs would find it and put a kibosh on something. I guess we'll see what happens with Pax when the gov't money for it dries up next month. Cabbages and VHS has issued a correction as of 21:34 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Nov 21, 2023 21:28
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Thoguh posted:Feeling kinda bummed today that we're basically exactly where we were a year ago as far as long term treatments and prospects go. Nasal sprays are still in the "Can't hurt but who knows if they really help" category. Vaccines are insufficient and almost no one gets them anyway. Paxlovid helps if you can get it but access isn't great. And there are no 2nd generation vaccines or nasal vaccines coming online. This is just life now. It sucks. FiL still positive. Fainter today but we had to call it. 
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Nov 21, 2023 21:35
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Lol that the new round of govt tests ships after Thanksgiving
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Nov 21, 2023 21:43
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Cabbages and Kings posted:also, "Paxlovid Mouth" sucks but it is an excuse to sip dr pepper literally all day A rebound of symptoms doesn't mean it didn't work. Having a rebound of symptoms like headache, nausea, aches, etc... doesn't necessarily mean a rebound in risk for severe outcomes like hypoxia, organ damage, blood clots, etc... I agree that if everybody ends up feeling very ill they'll say that 'paxlovid doesn't work' even if it kept them out of the hospital. Maybe that'll make Pfizer consider moving to the 10 day course (at twice the price naturally!) Or more likely it'll mean insurance just stops paying for it or some dumb poo poo, so it's even more a rich-people-only treatment than it is today.
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Nov 21, 2023 21:49
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Rescue Toaster posted:Or more likely it'll mean insurance just stops paying for it or some dumb poo poo, so it's even more a rich-people-only treatment than it is today. i think rich people already have access to a secret version of this stuff that doesn't make your mouth taste like you've been giving Bender rimjobs all day  also since the thing that seems to gently caress with taste is the stuff given to prolong the action of the antiviral, as far as I can tell, makes me wonder if some folks with bespoke dr's just skip that half and take the antiviral more often
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Nov 21, 2023 21:53
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I got popped last week, and tell you what… whatever is going around right now s-u-x total d-i-x. Seven days of hell, some GI tract aspect and made fun of at work because COVID isn’t real anymore. Time for a new job. Edit: Theraflu used to help but ain’t doing poo poo anymore.
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Nov 21, 2023 22:05
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Rescue Toaster posted:Are you sure it's not 100%? I literally have never heard of a case of someone not having significant or major rebound after the pax prescription ends. It seems like it's close to 100% in this thread anyway. People just don't generally post about not getting a rebound case.
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Nov 21, 2023 22:16
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Rescue Toaster posted:Are you sure it's not 100%? I literally have never heard of a case of someone not having significant or major rebound after the pax prescription ends. It seems like it's close to 100% in this thread anyway. availability heuristic Thoguh posted:People just don't generally post about not getting a rebound case. fake edit yeah
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Nov 21, 2023 22:18
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I still get confused whenever anyone uses the phrase "paxlovid rebound." As if pax is causing more illness and not "the illness is still here, the medicine was working and now you need more?" Like, I've never heard anyone say "my diarrhea came back, I'm having a Pepto Bismol rebound. (I know that's not an antiviral and I'm dumb but it seems like the same concept?) And also it's not even a "covid rebound", it's the same infection, right?
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Nov 21, 2023 22:47
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So I've hosed around and not gotten mothed up, and then I read in this thread several posts back that there's an actual updated vaccine coming? Someone please clarify
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Nov 21, 2023 22:54
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The Demilich posted:So I've hosed around and not gotten mothed up, and then I read in this thread several posts back that there's an actual updated vaccine coming? where are you located in the USA the available moth juice is current. there is no updated vaccine coming. in other countries gently caress if I know what's happening
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Nov 21, 2023 22:58
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Indoor Dying posted:I still get confused whenever anyone uses the phrase "paxlovid rebound." As if pax is causing more illness and not "the illness is still here, the medicine was working and now you need more?" it's because, language is power. train the public to perceive it as a result of the medicine, and not the illness, and they will disfavor the cure while braving the actual cause. whether or not the cure is used, is irrelevant to the short-term projections of capital. people avoiding what is basically the modern equivalent of the plague, however, is completely relevant
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Nov 21, 2023 23:02
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The whole 'rebound' discussion is sort of misleading; various studies that have been brought up point to 'rebounds' being fairly normal during the course of covid. You can feel okay one day, and then poo poo again the next, potentially multiple times over the course of the same infection. It's not at all surprising that rebounds while taking Paxlovid are common, because it helps you to feel better but it's still up to your immune system to do the work of squashing the virus, and rebounds without Paxlovid are common. Current research consensus, last I knew, was that Paxlovid still reduces risk of hospitalization and reduces the risks of at least some of the long covid symptoms, which is its real power and appeal. Unfortunately, what a lot of people are looking for and were sold on was a quick panacea, and while Pax is great, it's not quite that. Qualifier I need to add there is I don't know how well Paxlovid holds up to the whacky prophylactic use concierge doctors are likely putting it up to, but the full manufacturer-recommended ten day course (ie 'The Fauci Special') almost certainly helps more than the current weird five-day compromise.The Demilich posted:So I've hosed around and not gotten mothed up, and then I read in this thread several posts back that there's an actual updated vaccine coming? You should probably get vaccinated if able; current formulations for both Novavax and the mRNA vaxes are as current as they're going to get for a while (and as current as they've been for uhhhhhhhh many, many months lol). Pretty sure there were a couple of discussions of other countries' vaccinations and research, but that was mostly about other countries lagging on distribution and approval, and possibly about the occasional research projects like nasal vaccines a few countries have worked on which AFAICT at present are all either 1)underwhelming, 2)voids lacking of any information as of this time, or 3)months or years from actual deployment, so I wouldn't get too excited. Shady Amish Terror has issued a correction as of 23:12 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Nov 21, 2023 23:09
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I would not at all be surprised if it turned out people itt have a substantially higher likelihood of rebound than the norm and higher than the original study. To use the original study to exemplify (possibly that I am an idiot layman, that doesn't understand how the immune system works :P ):https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT05047601 posted:(..) According to the study protocol, initial status was determined by antigen test as the start date even leaving some slack of up to 2 days (note that day 1 is baseline, so "-1" is 2 days before): And of course antigen testing can be slow to pick up an infection. Essentially the various timelines together means that the 1% rebound was from testing with some substantial timeline slack from infection to Paxlovid. It was also from people neither infected nor vaccinated within the last 6 months, and people receiving high exposure (likely unhindered) household transmission. People in the thread meanwhile are often using more sensitive testing initially, so the infections tend to get picked up a lower viral load, they generally seek to minimize exposure, so the initial load is likely smaller and they are generally more up to date on vaccinations when it falters, meaning there are antibodies in the blood (without needing B and T cells being triggered by the current infection). All in all it makes for a flatter curve at an earlier stage. Without the body going into full DEFCON 1, you are in effect flattening the curve and extending the disease course. That is not a bad thing, as it reduces the damage beyond what long COVID research will show, but it does mean you are likelier to get a rebound. If someone knows better I would appreciate a correction.
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Nov 21, 2023 23:36
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This loving sucks and I do not want to get this disease again, nor do I wish to stop seeing my children I've been thinking about just masking in the house any time I'm outside my closed HEPA'd office I think I'd get sick way less but there might be downsides, my marriage is already deep into The Zones Of Communication Problems
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Nov 22, 2023 00:36
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Having new GI symptoms and totally no idea if it's the COVID or the pax. Just the coolest era of public health
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Nov 22, 2023 00:37
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Cabbages and Kings posted:Having new GI symptoms and totally no idea if it's the COVID or the pax. don’t worry, when it’s all over you’ll have covidyceps and won’t mind going this twice a year til you die
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Nov 22, 2023 00:48
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already at the "wouldn't mind dying" phase, don't need a reup
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Nov 22, 2023 01:47
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i spent five minutes today wondering why none of my phillips heads would fit a screw hole it was a torx screw can this poo poo cause mild memory loss or anything? feel like i heard that somewhere
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Nov 22, 2023 01:48
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Cabbages and Kings posted:i spent five minutes today wondering why none of my phillips heads would fit a screw hole nah, surely someone would've mentioned that if it were an issue
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Nov 22, 2023 01:50
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Got my covid and flu vaccines yesterday afternoon. Been cold and tired since I woke up but it's starting to break, I think. Arm hurts as do most of my lymph nodes in my throat and back. If only the side effects of good health weren't so killer. Still better than getting sick for real.
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Nov 22, 2023 02:00
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Gunshow Poophole posted:where are you located US; Thanks for the quick reply. This'll be my 9th shot
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Nov 22, 2023 02:00
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well in order to not be on the spreadsheet we’re having a big Thanksgiving, so the air purifiers going to be cranked, nasal sprays ready , etc. fingers crossed ugh
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Nov 22, 2023 02:05
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sonatinas posted:well in order to not be on the spreadsheet we’re having a big Thanksgiving, so the air purifiers going to be cranked, nasal sprays ready , etc. modest thanksgiving over here, but ugh, yeah.
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Nov 22, 2023 02:10
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well, day 4 of significant illness, day 2 of pax have almost but not entirely lost my sense of smell. Some food tastes okay, other food tastes kind of flat. I know this is in the usual timeframe for this symptom popping up if it's going to and I also know that in the substantial majority of cases it resolves partially to completely within 60 days, but, as a hypochondriac it would be really nice to hear any positive first hand anecdotes from people who had this. Also suggestions about what to do if anything -- I've identified a few things that smell a bit, like particular cannabis strains, and I am just trying to smell them every time I think of it and also ID anything else that still has a strong smell to it. I think my smell was reduced when I woke up this morning and went almost totally dark in the meantime. My fever has dropped from 103-range to 100-101 range. I already have tinnitus and I'm pretty lackadaisical about eating and sniffing flowers so if I had a choice to lose the smell and also the tinnitus I might do that, but, suddenlt being with 2/5 substantially impaired senses seems p bad and also I think smell has all kinda neurological/memory collelates
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Nov 22, 2023 02:11
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Washington state's Monkeypox (Mpox) update.pre:Cumulative Mpox Total Change 726 +6 Hosp. 21 pre:Recent Week Cases Change Nov-12 1 +1 Nov-05 4 +4 Oct-29 4 +1 pre:Older Month Cases Oct 2023 11 Sep 2023 9 Aug 2023 1 Jul 2023 1 Jun 2023 2 May 2023 0 Apr 2023 7 Mar 2023 6 Feb 2023 9 Jan 2023 15 Dec 2022 13 Nov 2022 19 Oct 2022 23 Sep 2022 134 Aug 2022 260 Jul 2022 190 Jun 2022 16 May 2022 1 Incomplete 0
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Nov 22, 2023 02:22
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Cabbages and Kings posted:as a hypochondriac it would be really nice to hear any positive first hand anecdotes from people who had this. Also suggestions about what to do if anything -- I've identified a few things that smell a bit, like particular cannabis strains, and I am just trying to smell them every time I think of it and also ID anything else that still has a strong smell to it. I had partial smell and taste loss and I run my own liquor and wine shop so this was terrifying to me because I kinda smell and taste for a living. My sense of smell particularly is extremely important to me and you're absolutely right about scent memories and correlation with other sensory experience. It's been a year and I can say it's mostly resolved? My smell is back to normal. It was 50% resolved after I dunno a month. My taste is still... It's not perfect. It's like 90% but I lost some nuance. However I will also say that (as a person who does this) both senses have an element of muscle to them, in that you must practice and rehearse and train them to be better / improve. Your experience is somewhat connected to language, other senses etc. If smell and taste don't recover on their own, there are ways to retrain those lost neural pathways.
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Nov 22, 2023 02:32
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I’ve heard shrooms help reboot your sense of taste/smell after covid which I think you’d be amenable to
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shazbot posted:I’ve heard shrooms help reboot your sense of taste/smell after covid which I think you’d be amenable to haha hell yes; i was joking to my wife the other night that if i had to be awake and miserable with COVID anyway maybe i should just drop acid and try to go combat it on the spiritual plane. Mushrooms can also sort of reboot my tinnitus for a while, and it's been, I dunno, six months. I'm gonna go google this. e: from reading, this is all based on a large amount of anecdotal data, but the most common working scientific hypothesis is psilocybin-mediated neurogenesis, which makes me think, if that's a thing: * wait until fully recovered and rested enough, but not much longer * don't be shy with doses; don't be insane, but this seems like a thing where you very much want to exceed the psychedellic threshold and then ride it out pretty fascinating. I certainly hope I am one of the (seemingly many) people who recover from this in days-a couple weeks but if it's still nagging me two weeks out, yea, I will probably just take like 2.5-3.5g in tea and buckle in. It's weird, I can't tell if my smell is going, or just shifting back and forth. I was able to smell coffee grounds, then I poured some coffee and it tasted like water; then I smelled coffee grounds again and could not. But, at that point I could (faintly) smell vinegar, which I hadn't been able to smell a half hour earlier. I am pretty sure my wife's sense of smell is completely hosed too because she's super sensitive to the smell of marijuana usually (makes her sneeze) and I just have like a half pound in here in open containers that I have been sniffing, and she didn't even notice when she came in :grimace: She couldn't take pax, either (breastfeeding). there's a story (may have been one of the early accounts that created interest in this) of a guy getting his smell back all at once, mid trip. I've read another anecdote about someone's tinnitus turning off in the middle of a mindfuck high dose trip, and then just staying turned off for years and years. I don't think there's any "magic" here, just a bunch of extremely interesting brain changing chemicals we don't understand or respect well enough. Cabbages and VHS has issued a correction as of 03:07 on Nov 22, 2023 |
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