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MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

HootTheOwl posted:

Kora needed a fire villain so she could do the whole cycle

Fire villain would have been a lightning bender working for the power plant trying to unionize and bring about socialism but then turned out to be eating babies so nah we probably dodged a bullet

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

HootTheOwl posted:

Kora needed a fire villain so she could do the whole cycle

iirc they had no idea if they were getting extended which is why seasons 1 and 2 were so self contained

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

the bumper on the whole thing where HELPeR is singing the lullaby and Doc is incubating the babies in his artificial womb was a really nice image to end the series on.

e: also Rusty and The Monarch being clones of each other and their respective reactions to it was really good

it was very cute, shows that rusty cares about the kids but in his own hosed up way

DaysBefore posted:

Yup. Definitely stuff I would have liked to see more of but I'm totally good with it ending like that

:same:

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Honestly the villain for season 1 being an anti-bender was such a good hook and he could have easily carried the entire show but they had him explode in a boat ex machina and totally wasted that whole idea

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Grapplejack posted:

Honestly the villain for season 1 being an anti-bender was such a good hook and he could have easily carried the entire show but they had him explode in a boat ex machina and totally wasted that whole idea

yeah I only watched most of the first season but I thought gut the anti-benders were really compelling until they became too villainous or w/e

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
Was looking at upcoming movies and found this, starring Billy Zane


400 A.D., in a forgotten time of Ancient America, a lone Hebraic fugitive must preserve the history of his fallen nation while being hunted by a ruthless tyrant. But rescuing the King's abused mistress could awaken a warrior's past.

If this wasn't obviously Mormon it would be a decent alt history premise, and with Zane I'd probably wind up seeing it

Maed
Aug 23, 2006



I remember loving the first one but I just tried to watch it again and just couldn't even finish. shia labeouf is just that annoying to me now

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
lucky for us he won't be in the sequel

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Going to watch the karate kid. I'll let you all know it's socialist or nah.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

1stGear posted:

The only bad-enough-to-comment-on part of ATLA is the extremely literal moral deus ex machina at the very end.

i thought it was good when aang accepted the love of our lord and saviour jesus christ turtle into his heart and the steel of his faith deflected all blows

Nichael posted:

I'm listening to the book of the first Dune. A lot of descriptions of Baron Harkonnen are basically "lmao he is fat. also he'sgay"

herbert seem to really love describing those suspensors, that's for sure

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

has anyone seen this?

Cold Dog Soup posted:

Cold Dog Soup is a 1990 British comedy film directed by Alan Metter. It is based on the novel Cold Dog Soup by Stephen Dobyns.

Randy Quaid plays a Zen taxi driver whose passenger is trying to dispose of his date's dead dog Jasper. The driver is respected by the peculiar groups he interests in the dog's corpse and effects, and the one-gloved heroine becomes more interested in him than in her date.

Box office
£603 (UK)

it's about Frank Whaley going on a date with Christine Harnos and having to bury her mom's dog, which he tries to solve by taking a cab somewhere. Randy Quaid seems a little like Brace Belden. the name of the movie is a reference to trying to sell a dog to a Chinese restaurant. they also try to sell the dog to the Jewish mafia and at one point try to get it revived by voodoo. it's an odd movie.

to those who have seen it: was Randy Quaid real or some kind of supernatural being?

e: it's on criterion

mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 02:35 on Nov 26, 2023

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Martha Stewart Undying posted:

Fire villain would have been a lightning bender working for the power plant trying to unionize and bring about socialism but then turned out to be eating babies so nah we probably dodged a bullet

I love kora but... yeah

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

mawarannahr posted:

has anyone seen this?

it's about Frank Whaley going on a date with Christine Harnos and having to bury her mom's dog, which he tries to solve by taking a cab somewhere. Randy Quaid seems a little like Brace Belden. the name of the movie is a reference to trying to sell a dog to a Chinese restaurant. they also try to sell the dog to the Jewish mafia and at one point try to get it revived by voodoo. it's an odd movie.

to those who have seen it: was Randy Quaid real or some kind of supernatural being?

The blood of Quaid decides your fate

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

mawarannahr posted:

has anyone seen this?

it's about Frank Whaley going on a date with Christine Harnos and having to bury her mom's dog, which he tries to solve by taking a cab somewhere. Randy Quaid seems a little like Brace Belden. the name of the movie is a reference to trying to sell a dog to a Chinese restaurant. they also try to sell the dog to the Jewish mafia and at one point try to get it revived by voodoo. it's an odd movie.

to those who have seen it: was Randy Quaid real or some kind of supernatural being?

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Thundercracker posted:

Politics is just kinda bad, but I do like how the actions and political consequences of each season's conflict snowball into creating the next conflict. Like Henry Rollins only exists as a villain because of the actions of the season 2 villain and Earth fascists only come to power because of Henry Rollins.

vastly inferior to the other henry rollins cartoon villain role

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbrRcIddT7E

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

gah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AwyHoaU1vU

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Colin From Accounts: good tv

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

McCloud posted:

ATLA does what it does extremely well, and is well worth a watch at any age imo.

Korra frequently drops the ball and trying to map the four elements and the core cultural attitudes assigned to them to political extremists movements was dumb as hell though, as was changing the asian cultural setting to "New York ca 1920's".

Korra sucks because it tried to punch above it's weight limit and their creators are bog standard liberal centrists, hence why the show became obsessed with "Balance" once they started getting into politics that weren't a simple case of good vs. evil. They really should have just tried to make another kids show instead of going for a teen YA thing.

Martha Stewart Undying posted:

Fire villain would have been a lightning bender working for the power plant trying to unionize and bring about socialism but then turned out to be eating babies so nah we probably dodged a bullet

This was pretty much Amon's backstory anyway.

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Whirling
Feb 23, 2023

I was in my teens when Legend of Korra was airing and the only things I can remember vividly is Henry Rollins' character killing the Earth Queen by removing the air from her lungs and the bit where Korra and Asami start dating each other at the end because I really hated the love triangle in the first season

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Blue Eyed Samurai was too all over the place for me. it never picked a tonal lane and the writing/direction wasn't strong enough to justify the unevenness.

At first, you get this exploration of Japanese geopolitical history not well-known by Americans and the interplay of race and gender within it. But then you have all the actors speaking very contemporary American English and have goofy slapstick superpower fights. I was excited to see them build up the Wolverine Clan but that she could move on in the story without fighting all of them and then end up flopping into a half hour fight sequence anyway.

Even in the puppet show episode people highlight for good storytelling, the creators don't have enough faith in their audience. They couldn't decide between showing or telling and settled on cutting between the puppet show telling Mizu's backstory and then just showing that part of Mizu's backstory.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that Netflix execs were severely meddling with the show. The needledrops in episodes 1 and 5 were pretty grating and reek of an EP going "just make it Kill Bill".

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

theflyingexecutive posted:

Blue Eyed Samurai was too all over the place for me. it never picked a tonal lane and the writing/direction wasn't strong enough to justify the unevenness.

At first, you get this exploration of Japanese geopolitical history not well-known by Americans and the interplay of race and gender within it. But then you have all the actors speaking very contemporary American English and have goofy slapstick superpower fights. I was excited to see them build up the Wolverine Clan but that she could move on in the story without fighting all of them and then end up flopping into a half hour fight sequence anyway.

Even in the puppet show episode people highlight for good storytelling, the creators don't have enough faith in their audience. They couldn't decide between showing or telling and settled on cutting between the puppet show telling Mizu's backstory and then just showing that part of Mizu's backstory.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that Netflix execs were severely meddling with the show. The needledrops in episodes 1 and 5 were pretty grating and reek of an EP going "just make it Kill Bill".

too many words/thoguhts for a slash slashy anime with a vague plot

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

samurai champloo was good

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Fuligin posted:

samurai champloo was good

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

much wistful...

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
In addition to everything else Korra seems like they didn't know what to do with the secondary characters. The love triangle feels like a symptom of that and they quietly dump it in the later seasons.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

busalover
Sep 12, 2020
How is Poker Face? I just read it's the new film from the Knives Out guy.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug

busalover posted:

How is Poker Face? I just read it's the new film from the Knives Out guy.

it’s a show and it’s pretty good!

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

busalover posted:

How is Poker Face? I just read it's the new film from the Knives Out guy.
it's ok; I liked the first couple of episodes but fell off it shortly afterwards because the scenarios got a little too contrived while trying to be clever

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Fuligin posted:

samurai champloo was good

It was, I should rewatch it

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Fuligin posted:

samurai champloo was good

Watching this and Blue Eyed Samurai at the same time might be making me like both less? or maybe more? I'll report back later.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

1stGear posted:

The only bad-enough-to-comment-on part of ATLA is the extremely literal moral deus ex machina at the very end.

i found the ethical dilemma itself to be worse than the resolution tbh the previous airbender avatar really nails it when she says its morally dishonest to act as if actions you take knowing people will almost certainly die because of them are any more defensible than ones that admit outright that death is the explicit purpose

this very petty distinction is also rife in our real world discourse were supposed to understand that hamas is evil because they want to kill people while israel is good because they dont really want to kill people never mind the fact that whatever eithers intent is israel indisputedly kills way more people than hamas does by like orders of magnitude

in general the politics in atla work because theyre very locally focused the four (well technically three) nations all have their own internal political divisions and advocate for radically different means of achieving similar goals where korra gets hairy is that these motivations get really complex and abstract and ideologically based rather than materialistically based but the story is still told from the perspective of idiot teenagers who arent really capable of understanding them

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I don't think Aang ever earnestly tries to justify his stance in a philosophically rigorous way, and honestly all the previous avatars deal with his dilemma in the absolute dumbest way imaginable. his entire people and culture have been destroyed and death is scary to him, a child. he just doesn't want to execute someone. like, read the loving room, o wise spirit.

e: like no wonder he doesn't want to take Kyoshi's advice, she comes off as a bloodthirsty berserker who has a lot more in common with Ozai than himself. and Roku is just a blundering idiot. my man has no helpful role models except a giant turtle

indigi has issued a correction as of 19:59 on Nov 26, 2023

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

busalover posted:

How is Poker Face? I just read it's the new film from the Knives Out guy.

A good mystery show. One of the best available right now.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Mr Hootington posted:

A good mystery show. One of the best available right now.

yup a nice mystery procedural

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Some Guy TT posted:

i found the ethical dilemma itself to be worse than the resolution tbh the previous airbender avatar really nails it when she says its morally dishonest to act as if actions you take knowing people will almost certainly die because of them are any more defensible than ones that admit outright that death is the explicit purpose

this very petty distinction is also rife in our real world discourse were supposed to understand that hamas is evil because they want to kill people while israel is good because they dont really want to kill people never mind the fact that whatever eithers intent is israel indisputedly kills way more people than hamas does by like orders of magnitude

in general the politics in atla work because theyre very locally focused the four (well technically three) nations all have their own internal political divisions and advocate for radically different means of achieving similar goals where korra gets hairy is that these motivations get really complex and abstract and ideologically based rather than materialistically based but the story is still told from the perspective of idiot teenagers who arent really capable of understanding them

true, true. great points all round. on the other hand I think the writers of a children's cartoon show didn't want to have their 12 year old hero commit murder

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
it wouldn't be murder, it's literally his job to judge and punish

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
I finally watched Violent Night, very good movie

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Lt. Danger posted:

true, true. great points all round. on the other hand I think the writers of a children's cartoon show didn't want to have their 12 year old hero commit murder

I think it makes sense that like a twelve year old kid that was raised as a Buddhist doesn't want to kill somebody no matter how bad they are.

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1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
Aang's hesitation would have be better if something that was more organically woven into the season or if taking away someone's bending had ever been mentioned before. As it is, it takes up all of one episode and is resolved by a god showing up and saying "Here's your free out, kid! Have fun!"

In retrospect, it was a canary in the coal mine for the writers not being able or willing to deal with the more complex issues they brought up in Korra and then flung in similar moral outs for.

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