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PostNouveau posted:I'm shocked to learn Rose-Hulman has a football team They were even playing against Indiana, Purdue, Vandy, and Notre Dame! .. They lost their last game against Notre Dame (in 1914) 103-0
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General Dog posted:Has anyone actually made that step, though? If somebody wins 40% of their games in conference and goes to 3 bowls in 5 years, that’s a stunning success at Indiana, but is somebody actually flipping that into a gig at like, Tennessee? You can't possibly be this thick
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Nov 27, 2023 06:59
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Where did Derek Dooley come from, you moron. You loving imbecile.
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Louisiana Tech, our oldest rival in women's basketball.
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Komet posted:
They haven't beaten Purdue since 2019. They have had some close games with Illinois and will occasionally surprise Wisconsin or Iowa, but for the most part I think it would be the same.
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Nov 27, 2023 14:07
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Elko may be a good coach, but I can't believe that's the hire A&M's gonna make after spending all that money. If I were having to pay that much to get rid of the head coach, I wouldn't want any shred of that coach's regime remaining around me.
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Nov 27, 2023 14:35
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Cthulu Carl posted:They were even playing against Indiana, Purdue, Vandy, and Notre Dame! All I can picture when I think Rose-Hulman football is tiny dudes with broken glasses repaired with white tape in the middle. This also led me to the shocking discovery that MIT has a football team as well.
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Nov 27, 2023 15:29
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When I visited Rose-Hulman the Colts were using it as a practice facility. They showed us the cafeteria and the offensive line was in there taking a break. Those were some big dudes. But it did surprise me they had a football field and facilities at all. It was way too expensive to seriously consider, but one of the selling points on the tour was that there was an all girls college not too far away to counter the male-female ratio at the school itself.
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Nov 27, 2023 15:55
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single-mode fiber posted:Elko may be a good coach, but I can't believe that's the hire A&M's gonna make after spending all that money. If I were having to pay that much to get rid of the head coach, I wouldn't want any shred of that coach's regime remaining around me. There’s no hire anybody can make that’s going to “justify” the buyout, you really just have to consider that a total loss and try to make a good hire from square 1.
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Nov 27, 2023 16:00
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I went to an engineering camp at Rose-Hulman in high school and it became my #2 school after Penn State. I was accepted in the early admission phase and never bothered applying to any other schools other than those two. If I had, Purdue would have been my third choice. I'm glad I went to Penn State because I ended up leaving the engineering school anyway and majored in history. Things may have worked out differently at Rose-Hulman than Penn State, but if it hadn't, I would have had to transfer schools entirely. At least Penn State had lots of other options.
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Nov 27, 2023 16:03
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Forgot about the coaching thread so just chiming in to say good riddance to bad rubbish (Jeff Lebby) He's a fine OC but I am glad the program will be rid of the stink of Baylor. I am proud of OU for putting him in his place after he tried his tough guy "that's the grandfather of my children  " bullshit after Briles got on the field. gently caress that scumbag.
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Nov 27, 2023 16:52
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Nov 27, 2023 16:58
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I know the answer is money, but why would anybody take the Indiana job? The last 14 coaches have finished with losing records, it is actually impossible to win there. And that was before they had to play the Pac teams I'm becoming increasingly concerned that if you're worse than Michigan State on average you're never seeing a winning conference record ever again
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Nov 27, 2023 17:11
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Sash! posted:I'm becoming increasingly concerned that if you're worse than Michigan State on average you're never seeing a winning conference record ever again I'm guessing we're going to seek fluke 'good seasons' for the bad big10 teams that do well by pure scheduling happenstance, like how the NFL teams sometimes get those fluke worst to first then dive right back into the dumpster. For example, in 2027, Wisconsin plays: Illinois, Msu, minnesota, usc, iowa, nebraska, northwestern, PSU, ucla. That's what, 2 decent teams (USC,PSU)? With some luck they could go undefeated until they lose 77-0 in the champ game to OSU/Michigan/Washington/Oregon. Presumably, Illinois/indiana/northwestern/maryland/minnesota/nebraska/purdue can get similar lineups in their favor and cruise to a 9-3 season when they beat absolutely no one. And frankly this will be more annoying to have the best years for the bad programs just be dodging the good ones.
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Nov 27, 2023 17:45
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trevorreznik posted:I'm guessing we're going to seek fluke 'good seasons' for the bad big10 teams that do well by pure scheduling happenstance, like how the NFL teams sometimes get those fluke worst to first then dive right back into the dumpster. NFL scheduling has a weird quirk that can contribute to that. 3 of your games in the NFL will be against non-divisional opponents who placed the same place as you in their division last year. So if you sucked last year but you're on the upswing, you'd get 3 games against other teams who sucked last year, which can help bolster your record. And then the opposite is true too; if you were good last year, you have a harder schedule this year.
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Nov 27, 2023 17:54
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The OP now has the actual carousel in it. Let me know if I missed any.
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trevorreznik posted:I'm guessing we're going to seek fluke 'good seasons' for the bad big10 teams that do well by pure scheduling happenstance, like how the NFL teams sometimes get those fluke worst to first then dive right back into the dumpster. I hope a team lucks into a schedule of nothing but the old West teams, Maryland, and Rutgers. And then has to play all the good teams the next.
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Nov 27, 2023 18:28
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Sash is probably right about the bottom half of the Big Ten stuck in the bottom half forever, but wasn't that also the case for many decades in the conference? With the amount of money each team brings in with the TV deal and NIL money, it's possible for a crafty administration and coach to change the paradigm. UCLA is probably below Iowa and Wisconsin on the average. The other three teams have Heisman level QBs that are going to the NFL. They aren't going to come into the conference next year and immediately dominate the playoff discussion. I don't see Illinois, NW, or Purdue as hopeless.
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Nov 27, 2023 18:35
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I also wouldn't count on all four of the West Coast schools being top-half in the Big Ten all the time. edit: kind of beaten to the same point by Komet.
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Nov 27, 2023 18:42
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Looking forward to the 2-3 good Big 10 teams playing something closer to a real schedule going forward. This cake walk until your final game nonsense is absurd. I hope Oregon or UW wins the conference next year for maximum hilarity
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Nov 27, 2023 18:44
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I hope a team lucks into a schedule of nothing but the old West teams, Maryland, and Rutgers. And then has to play all the good teams the next. Is the bottom of the big 10 worse than other conferences or does it just seem that way due to so many teams? All 10 of these are garbage: Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Indiana, Purdue, Rutgers, Maryland. UCLA and MSU aren't much better. trevorreznik fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Nov 27, 2023 |
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if I had to guess I’d say you’re gonna have Michigan, Ohio, Wash, Oregon, and USC as the top. Maybe MSU and UCLA if they ever get their poo poo together. Then you have the Cinderella stories really
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Lady Radia posted:if I had to guess I’d say you’re gonna have Michigan, Ohio, Wash, Oregon, and USC as the top. Maybe MSU and UCLA if they ever get their poo poo together. Then you have the Cinderella stories really Yep that sounds about right.
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I don't know if I'd pencil in Washington as an annual, long term top-third team in the conference just yet. They're probably pretty good as long as DeBoer is around, though.
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General Dog posted:I don't know if I'd pencil in Washington as an annual, long term top-third team in the conference just yet. They're probably pretty good as long as DeBoer is around, though. yeah, might be recency bias on my part. However if I rank by uniforms Wash is near the top, #2 easily
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Lady Radia posted:if I had to guess I’d say you’re gonna have Michigan, Ohio, Wash, Oregon, and USC as the top. Maybe MSU and UCLA if they ever get their poo poo together. Then you have the Cinderella stories really James Franklin solving his "can't beat Michigan or Ohio State" problem by just adding more schools to the list so Michigan and Ohio State are more hidden
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MTSU fired Rick Stockstill RIP
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https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1729192251052671133 And they’re paying a 5 million dollar buyout to make this happen, that’s an astronomical number for a CUSA school
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Cthulu Carl posted:James Franklin solving his "can't beat Michigan or Ohio State" problem by just adding more schools to the list so Michigan and Ohio State are more hidden it’s a clever strat
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Cthulu Carl posted:James Franklin solving his "can't beat Michigan or Ohio State" problem by just adding more schools to the list so Michigan and Ohio State are more hidden James Franklin beat Michigan in 2017, 2019, and 2020. Ohio State is really the only team he's completely shook by. He also destroyed Washington in the Fiesta Bowl and Utah in the Rose, so I don't think the PAC teams really loom large in his brain the way Ohio State broke him in 2017 and 2018.
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TheAlmightyFrog posted:When I visited Rose-Hulman the Colts were using it as a practice facility. They showed us the cafeteria and the offensive line was in there taking a break. Those were some big dudes. But it did surprise me they had a football field and facilities at all. St. Mary of the Woods? Back in the 90's there were only about 300 girls there and the place was a literal convent. My girlfriend went there, no good roads between West Lafayette and there either.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Looking forward to the 2-3 good Big 10 teams playing something closer to a real schedule going forward. This cake walk until your final game nonsense is absurd. I hope Oregon or UW wins the conference next year for maximum hilarity It'll be interesting to see if this has an impact beyond just the harder schedule. Michigan played E. Carolina, UNLV, and Bowling green out of conference, and then their first SIX conference games were complete blowouts. That's gotta be a huge boon for a team right? Rest your first string and get playing time for your backups in your first NINE games?
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Washington doesn't have, and really has never had, the ability to contend perenially. I mentioned it in a different thread but our success next year is entirely predicated on someone picking up where Penix and Odunze leave off. If a school manages to lure DeBoer away we will probably spend more than a few years in the mediocrity wilderness, too.
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trevorreznik posted:Is the bottom of the big 10 worse than other conferences or does it just seem that way due to so many teams? Even in those 10 there is a further bottom. Illinois has been real bad. Indiana, Purdue, and Rutgers have about one or two winning seasons each decade. Nebraska fell off the cliff after 2016. Maryland is pretty much the middle, 50/50 record and winning seasons. I think the rest at least have winning seasons more than 50% of the time. Vanderbilt is terrible like those first five, Arkansas has been near there the last ~10 years. Not sure about anyone else in the sec. How many teams like this does the acc and big12 have? 3 or 4 each? Maybe it is just the quantity.
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PostNouveau posted:It'll be interesting to see if this has an impact beyond just the harder schedule. Michigan played E. Carolina, UNLV, and Bowling green out of conference, and then their first SIX conference games were complete blowouts. That's gotta be a huge boon for a team right? Rest your first string and get playing time for your backups in your first NINE games? Yeah being able to rest any slightly dinged up starter and get tons of reps for the backups is huge not to mention the psychological impact of not being in tight games week to week. What’s nice is it won’t necessarily cost teams a playoff spot if they drop 1-2 games with the new playoff expansion but we’ll get a much better idea who’s actually good.
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https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1728518226949128575?s=20
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The Urban Meyer momentum of... Getting inexplicably evaporated by Iowa or Purdue? The Tressel momentum of getting to the national championship then getting evaporated by an SEC school? I don't mind not having that momentum.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Yeah being able to rest any slightly dinged up starter and get tons of reps for the backups is huge not to mention the psychological impact of not being in tight games week to week. What’s nice is it won’t necessarily cost teams a playoff spot if they drop 1-2 games with the new playoff expansion but we’ll get a much better idea who’s actually good. It's hard to say, right? I mean, Michigan was good enough to blow out all those schools. Like, Texas lost its star running back this season because he was playing in the 4th quarter against TCU because we weren't good enough to stomp the poo poo out of TCU and put in the bench by the 4th quarter, even though we probably should have been. Same story if we'd been playing Illinois? Probably ... but I dunno maybe not.
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Cthulu Carl posted:The Urban Meyer momentum of... Getting inexplicably evaporated by Iowa or Purdue? The Tressel momentum of getting to the national championship then getting evaporated by an SEC school? the day haters are mind blowing to me
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