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The Glumslinger posted:How is Banchero/Wagner so terrible when the Magic are the 2 seed? I assume teams with a more balanced scoring approach wouldn’t do very well on this metric
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Yeah fair enough, in afl you can't just sub out all the starters, they probably would if they could, not a valid comparison.
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R.D. Mangles posted:https://x.com/lookwhatdrewdid/status/1730232858168447273?s=20 Steph/Klay being where they are sure is something.
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The Glumslinger posted:How is Banchero/Wagner so terrible when the Magic are the 2 seed? Orlando is getting crazy good/high production from their bench.
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Eratik posted:Steph/Klay being where they are sure is something. they suck and are losers
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R.D. Mangles posted:https://x.com/lookwhatdrewdid/status/1730232858168447273?s=20 If you break out Steph and Klay to other pairs how does it look?
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Steph is +16.8 per 100 with GPII, +11.5 with Chris Paul, and even or terrible with everyone else. Klay has only been positive with Chris Paul, Kuminga, and GPII. Neither has actually shared the court with GPII that often.
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Point differential forces teams to go 100% right to the final whistle. Thrilling stuff as we’ve seen. The opposition is, what, hypothetical injuries? Hurt feelings? Come on man. Every other world sport manages just fine
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More hurt feelings is a positive side effect
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Giggs posted:they suck and are losers
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There was a point the TNT people made that it's by point differential it favors the teams who play last since they know exactly what they need. I think it's not really a good measure to use. Quarters won seems better.
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Why is running up the score considered bad form? Is it just one of those bizarre unwritten rules.
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Have each team's top 10 players take a shot from half-court, use the number made as a tiebreaker. Teams don't have to be in the same building but you do have to broadcast it as if they were staring each other down.
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Codependent Poster posted:There was a point the TNT people made that it's by point differential it favors the teams who play last since they know exactly what they need. That just means you need to schedule all group games to be the same time like the world cup
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Lockback posted:KAT is kinda quietly putting up a great year so far. He's showing people why he was all-NBA two years ago
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Lockback posted:Have it be the main point. 3pts for a win, +1 for each quarter won. Would make the whole thing more exciting. I see you are a man of culture(a CBA fan)
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the best and obvious solution is to determine the games that count towards the tournament but don't let anyone know until the elimination games begin (or better yet the final). 1) every game could potentially be important, gotta watch 'em all! b) teams don't get to decide what games to really try in (not that this really happens anyway but sports fans and marketing people are dumber than poo poo) iii) gambling houses acquire zero benefit from the absolute saddest sacks of piss (gambling enjoyers) because they can't artificially hype specific games 2) can't ruin my eyes with bird-brained court designs H) don't have to see the same promo of an over-inflated ll cool j lip-synching a tuba-forward rendition of a 30 year old song which really seems like it's specifically designed to make utterly insecure 40-somethings overreact and defend with far too much zeal this tournament to distract themselves from their deteriorating bones and brains LXIX) players play without worrying about point differential making them out to be a bunch of punk rear end bitches (in either direction) *) it would generate the most fervent and deranged conspiracy theories the sport has ever seen
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Seams posted:Why is running up the score considered bad form? Is it just one of those bizarre unwritten rules.
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Why don’t they just hold the tournament separately from the season
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Fast Luck posted:I don't think it's that bizarre. Like, if your team is already out of the game, you're down big and there's not a lot of time left on the clock, it is literally unnecessary for your opponent to pile on the points and everyone in the game knows it. The losing team has no real interest in running back down the court on defense and slapping the floor or that sort of stuff. You lost already! Then if the opponent takes advantage of your disengaging and throw an alley-oop off the backboard or something, that's really obnoxious! It's a cultural thing. In AFL if your team is down by 100 and you look like you're not trying, you will be heavily criticised.
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kingcobweb posted:Kissinger saw the Wizards losing to the Magic and died. Thanks Kuz/Poole. i found out henry Kissinger died from the n/v thread rip in piss
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If you can’t run up the score without hurting a player you aren’t a very good team
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Up Circle posted:Why don’t they just hold the tournament separately from the season Why? They don't need more exhibition games. There's too many regular season games but no one wants to get rid of any (players get half of the revenue), so the tourny is a good way of putting some interest in whats usually a kinda boring part of the season. It's not the championship but it's a little extra on top of the season.
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Some bench stats Bench Production by team: https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/traditional?StarterBench=Bench&dir=A&sort=PTS Net Rtg: https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced?StarterBench=Bench&dir=A&sort=NET_RATING Orlando is really high on both. I think good teams tend to have higher netrtg because bench players get to play with good starters, but that's still very productive for orlando.
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EoinCannon posted:It's a cultural thing. In AFL if your team is down by 100 and you look like you're not trying, you will be heavily criticised. Yeah AFL and cricket are the two sports I mainly follow. It’s fine. All sports have their weird unwritten rules.
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The other concerning part is that Klay is the other leading scorer. He’s washed
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Seams posted:Why is running up the score considered bad form? Is it just one of those bizarre unwritten rules. It's a weird American thing. In soccer, rugby, AFL, GAA, handball... pretty much any team sport I can think of outside of North America theres no unwritten rule about it at all. You try and beat the other team by as much as possible and the laugh in their faces about it. Everyone on the field is a professional, deal with it.
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LeBron James: Lakers Have “A Lot” To Fix https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/11/lebron-james-lakers-have-a-lot-to-fix.html "It was a historic night on Monday for Lakers star LeBron James, who became the NBA’s all-time leader in total regular season and postseason minutes, reaching 66,319 and surpassing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (66,297). However, James also suffered the worst loss of his 21-year NBA career, as his team was on the losing end of a 44-point blowout in Philadelphia." I noticed LBJ went reboundless in a game for the first time since late 2010. Only the fourth time that's happened in his NBA career. Eratik posted:Steph/Klay being where they are sure is something.  Klay Thompson.
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tanglewood1420 posted:It's a weird American thing. In soccer, rugby, AFL, GAA, handball... pretty much any team sport I can think of outside of North America theres no unwritten rule about it at all. You try and beat the other team by as much as possible and the laugh in their faces about it. Everyone on the field is a professional, deal with it. I kind of love how you said everyone is a professional and laugh in their faces
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Zachary LaVine is poised to overtake a Bulls record soon:code:The most unbreakable records in NBA history https://www.basketball-reference.com/bbr-blog/2023/11/the-most-unbreakable-records-in-nba-history/ I think Wilt's 27.2 RPG might be the hardest to break. If the NBA makes a 4P line that 50 PPG or 100 point game could fall. Or some player with great longevity could reach 16K assists.
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fart simpson posted:oh right. im surprised nobody else picked that list This year 38% of EC playoff votes were unique and 49% of WC playoff votes were unique. There's tons of room for unique lists as there are 6,930 different possible outcomes for eight playoff teams in a fifteen team conference. And there are ~48 million different possible outcomes when factoring in both conferences. This is the reason it's difficult to guess all sixteen playoff teams correctly. The most common combinations in the East this year: 76ers, Bucks, Cavaliers, Celtics, Hawks, Heat, Knicks, Pacers (fifteen votes) 76ers, Bucks, Cavaliers, Celtics, Hawks, Heat, Knicks, Raptors (fourteen votes) The most common combinations in the West this year (ten votes each): Clippers, Grizzlies, Kings, Lakers, Nuggets, Suns, Thunder, Warriors Grizzlies, Kings, Lakers, Mavericks, Nuggets, Suns, Timberwolves, Warriors Trying to randomly guess all eight playoff teams in a conference (with the correct seeding) would be 1 in ~259 million. Randomly guessing all sixteen playoff teams (with the correct seeding) would be a 1 in ~67 quadrillion proposition.
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Zogo posted:Zachary LaVine is poised to overtake a Bulls record soon: 48.5mpg for a season is by far the most unbreakable.
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R.D. Mangles posted:https://x.com/lookwhatdrewdid/status/1730232858168447273?s=20 More evidence of a doomed season. Giggs posted:the best and obvious solution is to determine the games that count towards the tournament but don't let anyone know until the elimination games begin (or better yet the final). This is good. Also, WHAT IF G7 of the NBA finals was selected at random at the end of the season. Save everyone a lot of time and make everyone watch all 1,230 games. That game with Poole trying to impress Rubi Rose was G7.  Seams posted:Why is running up the score considered bad form? Is it just one of those bizarre unwritten rules. It was a gradual thing dating back to the 1990s AFAIK. Norm Van Lier would constantly lament the Bulls not playing with "48 minutes of intensity" ~20 years back. Kind of like there was a time in the 1980s when the ASG was actually serious before being taken less and less seriously. Zogo fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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Dexo posted:I don't particularly care about it if it happens naturally, but like the notion of keeping your starters in a blowout risking injury and beating up on the opponents end of bench is just the dumbest thing in the world. i thought it was very entertaining to see the celtics starters hacking drummond in the 4th, up 30 points
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Stevie Lee posted:i found out henry Kissinger died from the n/v thread That was my whole goal 
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Zogo posted:This year 38% of EC playoff votes were unique and 49% of WC playoff votes were unique. yeah randomly guessing doesn’t seem like it should be a very good strategy
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fart simpson posted:yeah randomly guessing doesn’t seem like it should be a very good strategy That’s why I always unrandomly guess. I’ve never been wrong.
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kingcobweb posted:48.5mpg for a season is by far the most unbreakable. wilt only sat for 8 total minutes that season and played in all 80 games a true freak among freaks e: look at this gamelog https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01/gamelog/1962/#pgl_basic_playoffs::none Declan MacManus fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Dec 1, 2023 |
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With only a brief glance, it looks like his worst game might have been when he only put up 22 pts/22 reb (the last game of the season)
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