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KomradeX posted:These guys look like they loving suck "look like" lmao quote:"We forge tools on Israeli battlefields that give you an edge defending your country, your community & your home."
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:It's a way of coping with trauma after a sudden shock. This also happened in Ukraine with people making Molotov cocktails even though those wouldn't have had much use against Russian tanks and APCs. Also Americans giving blood after 9/11 which wasn't needed because people got pancaked in the WTC but it was a way for people to feel like they were "doing something" which is a form of processing. +1 Helping your fellow man is baked into our DNA. Even when hypermilitarized and brainwashed, that empathy comes out in support of that militarization. People want to help, and they want to feel like the help they are providing is important.
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Centuries of bringing each other casseroles after people die is now a part of our genetic imprint.
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Owlbear Camus posted:yet another bit of propoganda from russia-ukraine (nafo types on that haha washing machine) that they are leaning into the pre-made bad guy niche on The IDF soldiers are simply overwhelmed at seeing that Gazans possess things they could never dream of, like toilets
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joepinetree posted:From the point of view of political, cultural and economic elites, Israel is "us" in a way that South African elites never where. And on the reverse side, there was enough of a history of civil rights for racial minorities in the US that doesn't exist in regards to Islamophobia and anti-Arab sentiment. I suppose it makes sense that Israel is more deeply integrated with the general West like the last hurrah/last bastion of colonialism, more recently formed and far more tied into the mythology of the righteousness of the modern West... The point about how Islamophobia never had even a superficial "solution" like the US Civil Rights movements is very well made, especially after decades of Wars on Terror. Another point would be how far, far more deeply ingrained Islamophobia has become in Europe after the post-Syria etc. "refugee crisis". Israel perceived as the cornerstone of the wall of the "garden of Europe". It is still strange how easily Israel could be construed as a new Western/White country considering the West's very long, and by 1948 still very much present history of anti-Semitism. Maybe a point of comparison could be with Japan, and how relatively quickly they could be accepted as White enough to be a fellow colonial power... Some complex cultural history of racism to unpack, for sure...
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm sure you've heard the stories of how steroids destroyed military fitness, because special forces guys were cracking 250lbs and required like 10 000 calories a day, would gas out walking up a gentle hill - while Afghans were malnourished by our standards but hadn't turned themselves into "high performance" machines that needed a steady drip of glutamine or they would shut down. It turns out anavar, creatine and god knows what else can make you huge, but then you have to provide those huge muscles with calories, amino acids, potassium and water. Lmao at turning yourself into a Ferrari or Lamborghini or whatever. Gonna get wrecked by the Ural every time.
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The Oldest Man posted:See also: IDF big beard oakley operators getting completely poo poo-housed by guys in track suits in a stand-up fight Frosted Flake posted:I'm sure you've heard the stories of how steroids destroyed military fitness, because special forces guys were cracking 250lbs and required like 10 000 calories a day I'm reminded of the American heartland GI who grew on a diet of plenty of protein with eggs, beef, bacon and whatnot every week fighting against a Vietnamese fighter half his size that had two bowls of seasoned rice and some protein once in every while It's deeply ironic for the "operator" (and similar) types -- they cannot realize at all that the Palestinians are the ones who have developed that deeper moral fibre for the grim work of real war, not them. A military guy using steroids and working out in an air-conditioned gym is deep in ignorance or denial if he thinks that this is martial training. Incidentally, I was chatting with a medical sports scientist last week about this. Every now and then comes along a military guy (who wants to be foreign legion or UN or whatever) and they ask for a consultation program, which the doc then proceeds to summarily bash over their heads that physique development has nothing to do with soldiering. The principle also applies to sports: mentality and technique are among two of the important things that are most fundamental to the activity, yet are completely missing from what is being proposed there. I mentioned Palestine to him and he said that while he never looked at it this way, it made total sense from his background: the average Palestinian in Gaza was far, far more able to the work of martial development just by mentality alone than any of those guys
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smoobles posted:Ham rear end a very poor poster once said his 'ham rear end cheeks clappin' or similar, something to think about
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Real Mean Queen posted:This one really sticks with me. Food is kind of inherently interesting, and the question of how to make and distribute military rations is a super complicated one that has been answered in a bunch of different ways. Everybody seems to do it a little differently, and that's neat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Bg4SQvhXU&t=96s
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uber_stoat posted:"look like" lmao I was orginally going to say they looked like they deserved some red triangles, but thought better of it. I shouldnhave just.said that the first time. This is why Steve is much more palatable, he genuinely loves MREs and seems to respect all troops, every country troops which is kind of dumb, but better than this poo poo
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FlapYoJacks posted:Don't worry, the IDF are VERY proud of capturing and destroying an abandoned building. is there any footage of these losers capturing an actual Hamas target, such as a bunker or tunnel system?
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dead gay comedy forums posted:I'm reminded of the American heartland GI who grew on a diet of plenty of protein with eggs, beef, bacon and whatnot every week fighting against a Vietnamese fighter half his size that had two bowls of seasoned rice and some protein once in every while literally this quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_sxG6vJRao&t=14s
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CODChimera posted:is there any footage of these losers capturing an actual Hamas target, such as a bunker or tunnel system? Nope nothing
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dead gay comedy forums posted:I'm reminded of the American heartland GI who grew on a diet of plenty of protein with eggs, beef, bacon and whatnot every week fighting against a Vietnamese fighter half his size that had two bowls of seasoned rice and some protein once in every while literally this quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wydDRwwXFZg
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KomradeX posted:I was orginally going to say they looked like they deserved some red triangles, but thought better of it. I shouldnhave just.said that the first time. mresteve finally got rid of that state of jefferson sticker he had in the background. he is good and capable of change
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Brain Candy posted:in the genocide passage, this is forbidden. just so malevolent and anti-life and stupid that the bronze age refused this That's because trees (especially orchards) are extremely valuable to bronze age peoples and G*D (or more accurately, his scribes working for the king) don't want them damaged. Nowadays they just get their fruit from the supermarket so they don't need to capture the orchards intact.
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mark immune posted:literally this quote is fhat the mukhabarat fingies threat guy
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:literally this quote time to watch generation kill again, and hell, why not
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Luceid posted:time to watch generation kill again, and hell, why not I never did watch this show, but right now there is so little to watch that now might be a good time.
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:if you can DL more than 600lbs shrapnel no longer penetrates skin Battlefield medicine journals will at some point have to account for HGH enlarging organs. Trying to treat a gut wound with Joe Rogan beachball sized organs would be a pita.
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Owlbear Camus posted:this is why you should get your mre reviews from Steve. I really, really appreciate that the guy really into military history keeps his opinions to the food There are a couple of dudes on youtube that immediately went the hard reactionary direction during covid and it loving sucks
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CODChimera posted:is there any footage of these losers capturing an actual Hamas target, such as a bunker or tunnel system? lol that would require targeting and attacking people that can fight back.
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I really, really appreciate that the guy really into military history keeps his opinions to the food please dont tell me they got to forgotten weapons too
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Al! posted:please dont tell me they got to forgotten weapons too forgotten weapons guy tried to publish a Ukrainian nazi’s memoirs like 2 months too early
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I really, really appreciate that the guy really into military history keeps his opinions to the food It's because he is a genuine weirdo. He is a guy who probably spends hours a day tracking down MREs, doing translations of instructions in Russian MREs, and buying terrible 80s refernce T shirts. He likely has some bad opinions, like nearly anyone, but he just doesn't give a poo poo about that because he is actually just concerned with documenting what is inside the 2015 Russian Mountain Ration
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I really, really appreciate that the guy really into military history keeps his opinions to the food come on dude, they were always reactionary they just didnt say it openly
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ACAB and all that but man Patlabor's so good.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:+1 yeah this is why I hate apocalyptic zombie fiction so much. People naturally work together and if someone has ever been in the middle of a disaster then you’ve felt how often you just start moving towards assistance without thinking. It’s dense ideology work that makes us truly cruel bastards. People looking for looters to shoot in a hurricane are the weird ones. Ancient humans probably weren’t beating each other to death with bones at the first problem but loving their way through disagreements like bonobos. Rule of the strong poo poo is propaganda. Evil fucks want us to think all the cruelty of the IDF is a natural consequence of different groups interacting as opposed to the consequences of specific philosophies of hate.
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Al! posted:please dont tell me they got to forgotten weapons too Azov supporter, works with Pro-Rhodesia youtubers, and also did a third thing that I forgot about. Edit: The third thing was wearing a NAFO patch. BearsBearsBears has issued a correction as of 02:51 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Al! posted:please dont tell me they got to forgotten weapons too burger posting but the tfr firearm racism thread is split 4 ways between ian getting worse, who's trashing on trans people, who's reppin' rhoadesia and food or car chat. if nothing more, it's a great resource to vet martial adjacent youtube celebs
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BearsBearsBears posted:Azov supporter, works with Pro-Rhodesia youtubers, and also did a third thing that I forgot about. oh god ian no
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lobster shirt posted:im not an army guy so whats wrong with the israeli combat rations Not a jarhead, but this is my understanding: A heavy chunk of warfare, for as long as recorded history, has been about logistics. You want to reduce the number of things that can go wrong, because you need to account for everything every single person in the army needs, and what corners each soldier might end up cutting. If you don't, then your army starts deteriorating and then you need to account for other problems (such as "our rations have resulted in 1/3rd of the force being busy making GBS threads their guts out to do war"). In terms of Rations, this means squaring the circle of providing as much nutrition as humanly possible, in as many calories as humanly possible, in as appetizing a form as humanly possible, which won't ferment into something unappetizing/unhealthy, that will last as long as humanly possible, as cheap as possible, in packaging that is as durable as humanly possible, won't leech anything unhealthy into the food, and is as easy and intuitive to open as humanly possible, while also being as light as humanly possible. Each aspect you fail to meet means that the soldier won't perform as well; if the ration is disgusting, then they won't eat it, they go hungry or even malnourished, they won't work as hard. If the food isn't healthy enough, they end up with deficiencies that harm how much work they can do. If there aren't enough calories, they get worn out sooner and their physique suffers. If the ration ferments or spoils, then they won't eat it (or get sick), see above. If the food expires too fast, you will need to regularly replace rations, which drives up the resource cost of war in production & delivery. If it costs too much, that's another budget issue. If it weighs too much, then that's a strain on the soldiers and they either can't carry as many supplies or maybe even won't bring enough rations. If the packaging is annoying to open, then they might go longer between meals because it's a pain in the rear end, and the quality of their work falls off. You get the idea. Soldiers are recruited from all walks of life, with varying levels of personal intelligence & competency, and you need as many of them as you can supply, so you need to plan around the lowest common denominator. The Art of War is held up as this incredible work of mystical buddhist wisdom, but most of it is just "here's everything that can go wrong." As funny as the people who live off rations for the hell of it can be, it actually works because by design these things are supposed to meet all your dietary needs as quickly and easily as possible. Most armies approach these issues with the following: mostly low moisture food, a shitload of preservatives, a shitload of sugar, a shitload of fat, a shitload of salt, thick fibrous dry bread, none of which is offensive to most's digestion, often with a heating element to heat & sterilize the food, in vacuum-sealed plastic or laminated paper, if cans are used they often have pull tabs. A lot of modern rations will even include a candy bar, both for the calories & to ensure even the biggest manchildren in the army will open their rations. Israel's approach (going off Steve's video) appears to be a big heavy cardboard box full of cans of low quality cold wet food that tastes bad, that you need to spend minutes cutting open, that also seem to not agree with a lot of soldiers' stomachs (and also the meat seems to easily ferment). They seem to just accept that soldiers are going to burn their money ordering Pizza Hut, and will always have access to Pizza Hut.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:I'm reminded of the American heartland GI who grew on a diet of plenty of protein with eggs, beef, bacon and whatnot every week fighting against a Vietnamese fighter half his size that had two bowls of seasoned rice and some protein once in every while One of the most jarring posters I saw towards the end of my time in the Marines was this poster that says "he's training hard because he's fighting for his home, what are you training for?" with this silhouette of a dude running on top of a hill. God drat the USA is garbage.
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sullat posted:That's because trees (especially orchards) are extremely valuable to bronze age peoples and G*D (or more accurately, his scribes working for the king) don't want them damaged. Nowadays they just get their fruit from the supermarket so they don't need to capture the orchards intact. i know, just feels like it sums up the israeli death drive and blindness well an olive tree can take forty years to mature and lives for five hundred years. to destroy a grove isn't just a crime against the people who depend on it now and those that cared for it in the past, it's also a crime against the future
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Neurolimal posted:Israel's approach (going off Steve's video) appears to be a big heavy cardboard box full of cans of low quality cold wet food that tastes bad, that you need to spend minutes cutting open, that also seem to not agree with a lot of soldiers' stomachs (and also the meat seems to easily ferment). The IDF ration also includes a can of tuna with so much oil that you can replicate the miracle of having an oil lamp lasting without refueling for at least a week. 
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