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Good thing the Trailblazer's DEF is high!
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 22:41 |
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# ? May 20, 2024 19:52 |
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finally got another 5* on the standard banner from the generic tickets. E1 Bronya, hell yea. that chance to refund the skill pt on her skill is gonna be nice. got me enough sparkles as well to buy Clara's LC in the shop, so that's finished too.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 23:15 |
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Eej posted:There is no way you're swimming in infinite credits and books unless you literally just have 8 characters built and that's it. i have 14 built, and have almost 10mil credits
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 23:18 |
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Lazy_Liberal posted:I'm at the point now where everyone is 70/80 and there's only four light cones left that aren't 70/80. the biggest thing I run out of is light cone aether. second to that is creds. love not pulling new people Ah. There's your secret, 70 to 80 is very expensive. Generally not worth it, but on the occasions I decide to do it anyway it clears me out.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 23:27 |
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Eej posted:There is no way you're swimming in infinite credits and books unless you literally just have 8 characters built and that's it. And this after leveling Guinaifen from 40/50 and her LC from 1, and her traces up to 9 for the past couple weeks. Never needed to hit the gold calyxes. Completely F2P.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 23:44 |
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Eej posted:There is no way you're swimming in infinite credits and books unless you literally just have 8 characters built and that's it.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 23:47 |
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Captain France posted:Ah. There's your secret, 70 to 80 is very expensive. yeah that last ten levels is reserved for only the hottest hunks, babes, and also luocha
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 00:14 |
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Quinque, Silver Wolf, Fu Xuan, Topaz, Clara, Kafka, Jing Yuan, Dan Heng, Welt, Bronya, Lynx, Luocha Definitely taking Hanya to 80, and Argenti if I pull him. Still need to put Pela at 80, too.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 00:24 |
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Now that I have max trailblaze level I usually have enough credits. The only thing that really causes problems is completely maxing traces, but I have only done that for Blade and Topaz. Everyone else is at 6/8/8/8.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 00:30 |
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Endorph posted:if youve been playing since launch and keeping on top of stuff you definitely will be swimming in credits and books tbh. like i have to grind tehm occasionally but not that much I've been playing since launch and been buying BPs and I only have 14 80s, 9 5* LCs and only like 2 characters with level 10 traces and I never see the counter go past 2m credits. I'm basically always scrounging for books and credits for the next character.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 00:33 |
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Traveller posted:Good thing the Trailblazer's DEF is high! Love that March 7th is completely unphased by this. Not the weirdest thing the Trailblazer has said, I guess.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 00:38 |
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New website to optimize your character and their relics https://fribbels.github.io/hsr-optimizer/ Now while prydwen is far more user friendly, I feel like this website is for those who want to really min-max their characters
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 00:46 |
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I'm trying to get Huohuo's LC before she goes i dont think i'm gonna pull it off though
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 01:13 |
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It's an extremely luxury pull. If you're broke you should skip it.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 01:32 |
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NeonPunk posted:New website to optimize your character and their relics That OCR is way the gently caress buggy, I remember the Genshin one being a bit better
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 01:39 |
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I’m conflicted, because I want Hanya but I don’t particularly want Argenti and unsure about Silverwolf now. If I don’t have Fu Xuan, and I missed Silverwolf’s four star event LC do you think I’ll regret it? I am thinking maybe roll for her LC to make sure I get it first and then roll on her banner without regrets. It will be a 50/50, but still even with it not being a guarantee I want both characters next patch. I’ve been building up Pela since returning (would love one more dupe though since she’s e4) and I don’t know how much value Silverwolf would add vs. just slotting Pela with Seele. Coming from HI3 I would like to get her purely from a character standpoint but idk, over time I have been feeling less and less resolved, and am at 55 pity so not room to gamble.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 03:20 |
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Tree Reformat posted:
So you don't even have 8 characters fully leveled and built, and you don't have enough books to fully level the next character you get (it takes ~300 purples, IIRC). And I doubt you've got your traces maxed, either.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 03:29 |
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today's photo: truly dying for your art
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 03:31 |
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Zurai posted:So you don't even have 8 characters fully leveled and built, and you don't have enough books to fully level the next character you get (it takes ~300 purples, IIRC). And I doubt you've got your traces maxed, either. I didn't level HH or Lynx because I don't see much reason to waste the books yet. The next character I get will most likely be Ruan Mei, almost half a patch from now, and she's kinda of low priority for me actually building at the moment so I can absolutely continue to coast on event rewards there. And yes, Clara, Kafka, Sampo, and Topaz are all fully traced, Guin nearly so (I have the mats in inventory, I'm just saving them for next week's Nameless Honor), and everyone else in the main 8 is at 8 on traces (March is cheating a little since she's e4 so its actually 6 on her traces, but that's all i've needed so far). Like yeah, they're not perfectly maxed, sure, but how much value do I really get right now from maxing my supports and sustains versus, you know... building Guin to replace either Sampo or SW in the Kafka team? My real bottleneck right now is I haven't been able to grind the new Relic sets in earnest yet, since a whopping four of the characters I'm using and intend to use want them as a upgrade (or even at all, in Guin's case). And that's just stamina gated, no amount of EXP books or credits will speed that up. Tree Reformat fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Dec 5, 2023 |
# ? Dec 5, 2023 03:37 |
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rio posted:I’m conflicted, because I want Hanya but I don’t particularly want Argenti and unsure about Silverwolf now. SW's LC isn't even her best LC until she's E2+ so I wouldn't just burn a pity on it as a signpost for rolling the character. Tree Reformat posted:Like yeah, they're not perfectly maxed, sure, but how much value do I really get right now from maxing my supports and sustains versus, you know... building Guin to replace either Sampo or SW in the Kafka team? Approx zero because Guin is a sidegrade at best for Sampo, especially before E6. Also your Pela, Tingyun and Asta are languishing at 40 when they're the strongest characters you have aside from SW and Huohuo. Eej fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Dec 5, 2023 |
# ? Dec 5, 2023 03:38 |
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Eej posted:Approx zero because Guin is a sidegrade at best for Sampo, especially before E6. Also your Pela, Tingyun and Asta are languishing at 40 when they're the strongest characters you have aside from SW and Huohuo. I have a built SW (she might actually be 10 on her traces, I can't remember) so investing in Pela seems pretty lackluster at best, Tingyun and Asta are good too but I don't see how I can squeeze them into my current main teams? People like to poo poo on March, but she's currently doing gangbusters for me drawing aggro to Clara and feeding Numby FUAs. I mean, hell, Bronya is arguably the strongest support on my roster, is built, and I haven't still haven't touched her since I got Topaz. Like, I don't have the "big ticket" DPS characters on my roster at all, and things are pretty comfy at the moment regardless, all told. I guess you could argue the biggest problem I have is I can't run Remembrance in SU right now?
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 03:49 |
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Tree Reformat posted:I didn't level HH or Lynx because I don't see much reason to waste the books yet. The next character I get will most likely be Ruan Mei, almost half a patch from now, and she's kinda of low priority for me actually building at the moment so I can absolutely continue to coast on event rewards there. And yes, Clara, Kafka, Sampo, and Topaz are all fully traced, Guin nearly so (I have the mats in inventory, I'm just saving them for next week's Nameless Honor), and everyone else in the main 8 is at 8 on traces (March is cheating a little since she's e4 so its actually 6 on her traces, but that's all i've needed so far). Sure, and that's fine, but your contention was that books and credits were worthless to farm. Yet you're saying here that you're not leveling characters or maxing their traces because you don't have the resources to spend. Just leveling your remaining "main 8" characters to 10 in traces would cost more credits than you have, so you clearly have a use for more credits, and you don't even have a full two teams leveled all the way, so you have a use for more books. Not saying you should grind golden calyxes to the exclusion of everything else, but spending 10 stamina on them once a week will actively help you. Tree Reformat posted:I have a built SW (she might actually be 10 on her traces, I can't remember) so investing in Pela seems pretty lackluster at best, Tingyun and Asta are good too but I don't see how I can squeeze them into my current main teams? People like to poo poo on March, but she's currently doing gangbusters for me drawing aggro to Clara and feeding Numby FUAs. I mean, hell, Bronya is arguably the strongest support on my roster, is built, and I haven't still haven't touched her since I got Topaz. Pela and SW are better together than apart.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 03:54 |
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Eej posted:SW's LC isn't even her best LC until she's E2+ so I wouldn't just burn a pity on it as a signpost for rolling the character. Ah poo poo. It’s looking less and less like I should get SW. Sucks because I really wanted Hanya, and haven’t pulled for a while already since deciding I didn’t want Huohuo’s e1 over saving for a new character. I missed a good portion of the really powerful characters so I am not in a position to just get a 5 star because I like them. But good to know about the LC though - thanks.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 04:49 |
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Edit - Silver Wolf is a cracked support and is a great investment for a weak or new account. Relying on her will let you push further than even a cracked dps will. Her value lowers as you get more built units and stronger dps characters, but she will never be a bad choice. She doesn't need any particular LC to be good or valuable. If I had to choose between SW and Pela, I wouldn't have Silver Wolf. They complement each other very well. I also don't use Asta or Tingyun, but once I get Hanya, I am going to invest more in Ting. Also, I didn't use Bronya for half of MoC. 10 included. Bad Video Games fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Dec 5, 2023 |
# ? Dec 5, 2023 04:50 |
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While I definitely put off leveling Pela because I had Silver Wolf, I've certainly gotten a lot of use out of Pela since leveling her. They complement each other well, and there are situations where one is better than the other, and there's situations where I will use one on each team in MoC.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 04:54 |
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Bad Video Games posted:If I had to choose between SW and Pela, I wouldn't have Silver Wolf. What if you only have an E0 Pela? I assume at E4 or E6 is when she starts edging out SW?
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 05:03 |
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qbert posted:What if you only have an E0 Pela? I assume at E4 or E6 is when she starts edging out SW? My Pela is only e2. As AshtonDragon said, she's great with and without SW. I just find Pela more broadly useful unless you're trying to force weakness. Pela's AOE defense shred and permanent ult uptime just make her more valuable in MoC, imo.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 05:11 |
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qbert posted:What if you only have an E0 Pela? I assume at E4 or E6 is when she starts edging out SW? No, Pela is fine at E0 and literally the easiest character to gear up I straight up give her some junk random level 70 cone for stats purposes that's not even nihility. You just give her spd boots, eff hit rate chest, ERR Rope and level her talent/ult. That's it.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 05:31 |
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I have a feeling they will make some true single target moc after Pure Fiction releases, at least here and there in the abyss. Which is SW's biggest issue, that it takes one point of sp and her ult to really set her debuffs up and if something dies immediately after you do that when you still have multiple targets to hit, well it feels bad. The more we get sturdier enemies the better she will be, the damage increase she has on single targets is really immense even without counting weakness implant. And even in the current moc you can just use Vonwacq/Penacony and do a 2 turn ult rotation. Support Wolfie doesn't mind, but it does put up a big warning sign against going for her eidolons in the current meta. ...I am still going to go for her e2 because I'm already at e1 so might as loving well, but this is purely me damning myself because I really want Hanya.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 05:38 |
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qbert posted:What if you only have an E0 Pela? I assume at E4 or E6 is when she starts edging out SW? Pela's eidolons are all basically irrelevant and terrible, with the sole exception of E4 if you're running Jingliu or Yanqing. Her power comes from being a purely SP positive support character who can build giga tanky and do aoe defense shred constantly, which none of her eidolons really hugely benefit.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 06:01 |
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Tae posted:No, Pela is fine at E0 and literally the easiest character to gear up I straight up give her some junk random level 70 cone for stats purposes that's not even nihility. You just give her spd boots, eff hit rate chest, ERR Rope and level her talent/ult. That's it. Good to know. I have her at E1 and was debating between building her up or pulling for SW. I think I'll just stick with her then.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 06:10 |
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Pela's E1 is useful in any fight except like Kafka, and her E4 is good if you're running an Ice DPS. But yes, she's excellent at any eidolon level.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 06:17 |
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I wish they designed content that would benefit a lot of different playstyles, right now everything is just as much dps as possible. Welt is my only 5* that is E1, and I have his signature LC, but I cannot figure out a way to slot him into a party that makes it better. How does slowing enemies help when the time limit to kill an enemy is the difficult part, not the fight itself. He does more damage than other supports, but if you wanted to spend that level of SP you might as well just add another DPS.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 08:10 |
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Welt would be a lot more relevant in a game where sustain characters were substantially less powerful and fights were intended to go long, but they've basically broken the dam on sustain power level to such an absurd degree with characters like Luocha and Fu Xuan that if they ever design content that actually demands that level of sustain to succeed anyone who doesn't have those characters will be instantaneously vaporized. He might also feel better if they release more DPS like Topaz who don't demand every skill point your team ever generates, because then you could fit him in a party as secondary DPS.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 08:40 |
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I usually use welt on a Blade/Bronya/Luocha team, plenty of SP left over for him
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 08:58 |
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E1 Welt with his signature lc is a dps! E1: Basic Atk +50% damage, Skill +80% damage for 2 turns after ult. LC: +24% damage to debuffed enemies and +24% atk when using skill. Make him a hypercarry. Also, yeah, he's great with Topaz. I plan on using him with Dr. Ratio and Hanya. Bad Video Games fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Dec 5, 2023 |
# ? Dec 5, 2023 12:37 |
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My hypercarry is Topaz because beating people to death with a literal capitalist pig while yelling financial slogans makes me lol. Play what you love. But also I do wish the game had more challenge modes with good rewards rewarding builds beyond fastest DPS. Gimme challenges like “party can only be made of free 4*” or whatever where the challenge is duct taping something functional from scraps vs just needing a hypercarry for each side.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 12:50 |
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Something like what the Abundance path in Swarm did on their scenario option?
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 13:32 |
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Pela, I get. Defense break and buff removal are useful in a ton of situations, and while I have issues keeping her alive, her role makes sense in many contexts. Tingyun, I kind of get. More damage is never a bad thing. I don't know that I'm seeing a dramatic enough difference in others' damage from her to justify not using a shielder, a healer or a hitter of another element in her slot. I am really struggling to find a use case for Asta. Conceptually, more speed is also never a bad thing. But so far, her Ult (which, I will admit, isn't heavily traced yet) seems like more like a small boost than something gamebreaking, and I don't get what else she brings to the table. Do I have to have the rest of the team severely minmaxed on Speed for Asta to make a meaningful difference?
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:36 |
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# ? May 20, 2024 19:52 |
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Asta also boost your team atk% by her charges too
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 15:41 |