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Guavanaut posted:Yeah but the same is true but worse for most other forms too. It's going to be soo many chernobyls.
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Dec 5, 2023 19:09
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His Divine Shadow posted:It's going to be soo many chernobyls. Literally all the chernobyls perhaps
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Dec 5, 2023 19:11
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The 9/11 of Chernobyls
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Dec 5, 2023 19:12
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Where are the mutants? I was promised mutants.
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Dec 5, 2023 19:34
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Failed Imagineer posted:It's a bit of an internet cliché, but insanely accurate for my generation:
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Dec 5, 2023 19:36
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Unkempt posted:Where are the mutants? I was promised mutants. Turn off your monitor
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Dec 5, 2023 19:38
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Sad Panda posted:As someone without kids - what? How does childcare cost north of £2,000 and how can people afford it? Is this because you're classed as rich so get no support? Is it some super fancy place? a combination of factors. Post brexit skills drain of early years carers reducing availability of supply is the principal one, even with the drop in birth rates it's tough to get a spot. it's not unusual to have parents registering a baby (even pre-birth) for nursery spaces only to have the child age out of the group by the time they get assigned a spot.
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Dec 5, 2023 19:41
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Childcare should be expensive - it's the most fundamental function of our species. It should also be wholly subsidised by the state but lmao
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Dec 5, 2023 19:45
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Guavanaut posted:Some anthropologists speculate we could go back to alloparenting once the system of patriarchal property rights that sustained the nuclear family collapses in on itself. Had to look the word up to make sure and got a helpful paper with some excellent tags. 
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Dec 5, 2023 19:47
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Guavanaut posted:Some anthropologists speculate we could go back to alloparenting once the system of patriarchal property rights that sustained the nuclear family collapses in on itself. That would be cool actually, I'm sorry not to have lived in such an era. I have no interest in kids myself but I might be willing to put in like, 5% parenting effort for some of my niblings or my mates' kids.
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Dec 5, 2023 19:48
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Before Hemingway came along, this was the shortest tragic story ever written
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Dec 5, 2023 19:49
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"For sale, prairie vole child abuse brain, involved in car accident" was the 'ra obit for Mountbatten.
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Dec 5, 2023 19:54
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My sister in law's parents are basically 5 day a week full time childcare for a whole horde of grandchildren. Whilst my brother's parents retired, sold up and moved to another country.
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Dec 5, 2023 19:59
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kecske posted:a combination of factors. Post brexit skills drain of early years carers reducing availability of supply is the principal one, even with the drop in birth rates it's tough to get a spot. it's not unusual to have parents registering a baby (even pre-birth) for nursery spaces only to have the child age out of the group by the time they get assigned a spot. There are issues of premises availability - most private early years settings are in rented premises and if your landlord decides to get rid of you, you and your clients are hosed. I suspect the same thing is impacting early years settings as schools, too - supermarkets can pay better wages and are being a lot more flexible with hours these days. Early years settings need to have higher adult:child ratios so if they can't find the staff, there's a hard cap on the number of children they can have in the setting. And at what point does that stop being profitable? The utterly stupid thing is that this is actually a really easy thing that the government could have fixed at any point in the last decade if they'd bothered. It's just poo poo politicians not giving a poo poo.
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Dec 5, 2023 20:05
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AI will solve the problem. Terminator nannies.
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Dec 5, 2023 20:08
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Is there no childcare subsidy? Is that 2300 monthly completely out of pocket? I don't know how people afford that? We are finding childcare costs difficult with means tested childcare subsidy in Australia and the fees are like 1/10th of that.
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Dec 5, 2023 20:09
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If you live in Scotland childcare is funded for all three and four year olds up to 30 hours per week. Thanks Nicola.
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Dec 5, 2023 20:10
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Guavanaut posted:"For sale, prairie vole child abuse brain, involved in car accident" was the 'ra obit for Mountbatten. I guess he was kind of alloparenting Charles. And uhhhh all those other kids(?) NotJustANumber99 posted:my brother's parents I know this one... they were both your surgeon!
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Dec 5, 2023 20:11
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Nenonen posted:looks like nature is healing
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Dec 5, 2023 20:12
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Tomberforce posted:Is there no childcare subsidy? Is that 2300 monthly completely out of pocket? I don't know how people afford that? We are finding childcare costs difficult with means tested childcare subsidy in Australia and the fees are like 1/10th of that. There's a couple of options. You can pay funds into a government account which effectively adds 20% to the amount you pay in which can be used for childcare. If you get Universal Credit, then you can get 85% of your childcare costs paid back to you. You also get 30 hours free childcare once they are 3 years old. Strangely, because of childcare costs it means that some people may be able to claim UC that may otherwise have not been able to even though they earn a reasonable amount. For example, me and my wife have a combined income of around £45k. Because we get UC it means the overall costs for our 4 year old spending 4 days a week at nursery are about £30 a month.
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Dec 5, 2023 20:19
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Tsietisin posted:There's a couple of options. You can pay funds into a government account which effectively adds 20% to the amount you pay in which can be used for childcare. 
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Dec 5, 2023 20:29
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Yeah I think it'd be more straightforward and productive to get a DBS check on some prairie voles to find out which ones aren't fiddlers than try to navigate that.
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Dec 5, 2023 20:32
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Childcare payment rules are anti aspiration, you'd think theyd want to fix that.
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Dec 5, 2023 20:34
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Childcare payment rules are anti aspiration, you'd think theyd want to fix that. No. Aspiration is something only a select few can aspire to
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Dec 5, 2023 20:44
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All the problems are down to immigrants according to Turning Point, and it's also down to people voting for Labour, because look at the mess Corbyn's made of our country over the past 13 years. https://twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1730910828642152679 And now there's this: https://twitter.com/Redshoogi/status/1732128017168904398 A Tufton St org calling for direct local action. Isn't this terrorism? quote:The director of a new pressure group hoping to become a “focal point” for anti-immigration sentiment across the UK has called for “action on the streets” to “force the issue” on to the agenda of political parties. https://endmassmigration.uk/ We aren't on a good timeline fuctifino fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 21:24
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It's only terrorism if the left does something or says a mean thing
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Dec 5, 2023 21:27
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fuctifino posted:All the problems are down to immigrants according to Turning Point, and it's also down to people voting for Labour, because look at the mess Corbyn's made of our country over the past 13 years. Someone didn't leave the Louise Mensch clone in the incubator long enough she's still raw.
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Dec 5, 2023 21:29
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That new group's "Who We Are" uses this stock image: https://depositphotos.com/photo/international-group-of-happy-smiling-people-142055398.html
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Dec 5, 2023 21:31
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The two guys on the left look like you face-app-ed Starmer in two different directions.
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Dec 5, 2023 21:32
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We could make room for more productive immigrants if we sold all of Turning Point's members to North Korea as chattels. Have they volunteered for that yet?
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Dec 5, 2023 21:38
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Or there's that thing the Co-op is talking about with soap making. I'm not saying we should necessarily do either, just that they should volunteer for that first before throwing anyone else under the bus.
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Dec 5, 2023 21:39
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https://www.itv.com/news/2023-12-05/uk-should-stock-up-on-torches-and-candles-to-prepare-for-power-cuts-says-dowdenquote:Brits should stock up on torches and candles to prepare for power cuts, Oliver Dowden says Out of all the things to pick, why did he mention 'First Aid Kits' as an analogue supply? I guess we are going to have to create our own individual NHS's at home?
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Dec 5, 2023 21:41
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I bet we could modify the Co-op soap machine to make a few candles out of him too.
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Dec 5, 2023 21:44
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Are you prepared for cyber?
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Dec 5, 2023 21:48
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kecske posted:2 kids also under 4 and both in childcare, but only 3 days a week for the low low monthly cost of Sad Panda posted:As someone without kids - what? How does childcare cost north of £2,000 and how can people afford it? Is this because you're classed as rich so get no support? Is it some super fancy place? Yeah I was gonna ask the same thing. Our current monthly fee for the local nursery (which is a handy 2 minute drive away) is £1065 for four days a week (that's before the childcare support of about £166). Our nursery also gives a discount if we've got 5 days a week and a slightly reduced fee for when my first kid is 3+, which then takes it to a £2k a month figure. As for the silly costs, gently caress knows. There's supposed to be something like a maximum of 6 kids to a nursery staff member. So assuming a fully booked nursery (which mine must be given there's a 1.5 year waiting list) that's £6k income per staff member. Let's be generous and say they're getting paid a modest sum of £30k a year (I dunno what nursery staff salaries are like), that's £2500 a month. Leaving the nursery with £4500 in income per staff member. The heating and power bills are gonna be crazy high to keep the building warm all day, but I've also seen that they get the Tesco own brand food for the kids, so they're cutting costs there. It sort of feels like there is a problem with the costs they incur somewhere but also that they're taking advantage of parents in need that most children orientated companies do. A good buggy, for example, shouldn't cost £1200. Kin fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 21:49
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Apparently you can make an emergency radio out of a bandage and a couple of safety pins
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Dec 5, 2023 21:50
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Yes, it's fairly simple. 1) Turn the bandage and safety pins into a makeshift garotte. 2) Find someone who has a radio.
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Dec 5, 2023 21:53
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Kin posted:Yeah I was gonna ask the same thing. It depends greatly on where you live, how old your kids are, how the nursery structure Government support etc. I used to work for the Daycare Trust - now I think part of the Family and Childcare Trust - that tracked the numbers and it was scary in some places. Rural home counties, central London. If it's any consolation to those struggling it does get a bit easier once they qualify for their free hours. I chucked my corporate job because it was destroying my soul although I might need to go back for the cash in the future which sucks. At the time I was earning good money and but have no clue how we would have afforded two kids under three at nursery. We just about managed with one although in a similar boat to you Kin we were short despite that good money. I think I vaguely remember you living near Edinburgh and unsurprisingly it's a high demand low provision place in general. I couldn't even get more hours for my daughter at nursery if we wanted them. Plenty of parents, usually mums, just give up work. Edit: I also now live near Edinburgh. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 22:01
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Can't you all just send your kids to work in that new coal mine? Not only will your childcare bills be reduced to zero, your kids will be able to contribute towards the costs of running a home. Isn't this why we Brexited? 
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Zalakwe posted:It depends greatly on where you live, how old your kids are, how the nursery structure Government support etc. I used to work for the Daycare Trust - now I think part of the Family and Childcare Trust - that tracked the numbers and it was scary in some places. Rural home counties, central London. Aye, in a wee village half an hour south of Edinburgh. That's pretty much the situation though. We basically couldn't even consider any other nurseries other than the one up the road and even then the waiting list is crazy. It doesn't help that a lot of newbuilds have been put up here including the one I'm in. Local amenities can't core and you have to go out of the village to get GP, etc. I did a bunch of scenario's calculations and frustratingly it turned out we'd be worse off if my wife cut her maternity leave short to go back to work because of the bloody fees, even though she's getting paid less while on it. We've never considered me being the sole income provider, but looking after 2 kids under 3 all day is... well it's tough to be honest and I don't think my wife would cope. We had originally planned to cut our sons days at the while my wife was on mat leave but we haven't because of the stress and because he eats and socialises better at the nursery.
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