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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/dailywireplus/status/1731785864970219665
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ugh I hope it's just a paycheck for Warburton and Riggle.
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Dec 5, 2023 22:52
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Can't wait for the Rittenhouse guest episode.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/dailywireplus/status/1731785864970219665 Way ahead of you.
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Dec 5, 2023 23:00
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zoux posted:Please I beg you: do not watch this trailer
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Dec 5, 2023 23:08
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Koburn posted:ugh sadly no. both republicans
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Dec 5, 2023 23:17
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It's kind of weird that the more Carolla actually doesn't understand the world, the less funny his schtick of "everyday man out of his depth" is. Or maybe he was just never funny and I was an even dumber kid than I remember.
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Dec 5, 2023 23:27
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Late Fees posted:sadly no. both republicans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_pRtd0q_4k
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Dec 6, 2023 00:19
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Yeah, Riggle was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Marines, I wouldn’t expect many good opinions out of him
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/dailywireplus/status/1731785864970219665 But we already had Last Man Standing
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/dailywireplus/status/1731785864970219665 ah what the gently caress kyle dunnigan what the gently caress are you doing with these loosers
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Dec 6, 2023 01:30
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Why the gently caress would the GOP run on a platform restricting weed? I mean, even at a bare minimum they're capitalists at their center and there's money to be made here
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BiggerBoat posted:Why the gently caress would the GOP run on a platform restricting weed? I don't think that last bit's true anymore. Sure, maybe ten years ago it was, but these days I think even capitalism is second to bigotry/hurting people.
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not a lot of profit in legal home-grows
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Rebel Blob posted:How disappointing. I watched Ted 2 the other day and Wharburton played a bro gay dude with Michael Dorn. He also dressed up as the Tick and Dorn dressed as “lovely Worf” which was p funny So I guess Patrick Wharburton is a land of contrasts
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The weed revenue all going to police is evil
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That weed bill is a sort of last minute hail Mary from state congressional Republicans. It has to pass by tomorrow and probably won't. There is a different Republican bill that has a good chance of passing that is more limited. That bill just allows cities and counties to ban weed dispensaries and redirects 20% of the tax revenue to law enforcement training instead of 80% going to law enforcement without any restrictions. Both are bad, but one is much worse.
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Dec 6, 2023 16:07
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So the "why bother voting" guy is misrepresenting legislative processes in order to make a lovely anti-electoral statement? Not that he's alone in that, even the most prestige media outlets do it. We're constantly getting "Texas Would Secede Under Republican Bill" articles about a rally with 25 attendants or a single bill with no co-sponsors from a nutjob House member that has no chance of even being referred to committee much less becoming law. People have no idea how government works, or even how it can work, and just make poo poo up, it's very frustrating. To the topic, how many cities in OH would actually do that? Not many I'd suspect.
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zoux posted:So the "why bother voting" guy is misrepresenting legislative processes in order to make a lovely anti-electoral statement? He's right that Republicans have openly been trying to change parts of the amendment that are against the spirit of the referendum that passed. It's just that there are two competing Republican bills because one group threw out this much more expansive one at the last second after the initial talks broke down. The more expansive one might pass, but it seems unlikely because it has to pass by tomorrow. The other Republican bill probably will pass and it doesn't (currently) address homegrown issues and changes the law enforcement money a little less. The things all the Republicans agree on changing: - Let cities and counties ban dispensaries, cultivators, and processors. - Direct tax money to law enforcement. - Ban on public smoking. - Exemption for landlords to ban marijuana. - Unspecified "guardrails for children" around advertising and location. - Capping the total number of dispensaries allowed in the state. - Capping THC levels. - Raise the marijuana tax rate above the 10% in the referendum. Things all the Republicans don't agree on: - How much money should go to law enforcement (there are several proposals that range from somewhere between 20% and 100%). - If the law enforcement money should be restricted only to traffic enforcement and training or have no restrictions. - What to do about home grow situations. - What level THC should be capped at. - What the specific tax rate for marijuana should be other than just "above 10%"
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Republicans shouldn’t have had the ability to do a goddamn thing to a law voted by referendum was that guys point.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He's right that Republicans have openly been trying to change parts of the amendment that are against the spirit of the referendum that passed. What are the deadlines such that one bill has to pass today and one doesn't, are they in different chambers?
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Nonsense posted:Republicans shouldn’t have had the ability to do a goddamn thing to a law voted by referendum was that guys point. It was a referendum to pass a law and not a constitutional amendment. The legislature can pass bills to change laws with a majority vote. It is bad that they are making changes that go against the spirit of the law, but legislatures always have the ability to pass laws.
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Dec 6, 2023 16:28
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zoux posted:What are the deadlines such that one bill has to pass today and one doesn't, are they in different chambers? The newer bill was done under an expedited process and the referendum kicks in tomorrow. From a legal perspective, they have to finish it by the end of the legislative session. From a practical perspective, it will be very difficult to organize the entire legal marijuana industry, issue permits, collect a certain amount of taxes, and allow home grow operations for a while, but then reorganize the entire system to shut all of that down again before January.
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Dec 6, 2023 16:31
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 As I asked in the Deutschfaden: What is satire allowed to do?
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Antigravitas posted:
Captain Bavaria would be the result of a super soldier project during WWII for the... which army is Bavaria part of?
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Söder would be the one-man-army on the throne of a Bavarian theocratic military dictatorship.
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Andrew Tate was also going off against GTA today, why is the online fash brigade in lockstep over this all of a sudden
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zoux posted:Andrew Tate was also going off against GTA today, why is the online fash brigade in lockstep over this all of a sudden A trailer was released for GTA6 (and it's woke)
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Antigravitas posted:As I asked in the Deutschfaden: What is satire allowed to do?  Knights who like Bavaria are a good lot to aspire to!
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Aztec Galactus posted:A trailer was released for GTA6 (and it's woke) Yeah I get that but the thrust of their statements (at least what I've seen) is that they are bad because of cop killing and promotion of anti-social behavior. https://twitter.com/DramaAlert/status/1732165835429478457 Also see Elon's post above
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zoux posted:Andrew Tate was also going off against GTA today, why is the online fash brigade in lockstep over this all of a sudden The new young online conservatives all have a weird "traditional values counterculture" vibe. Their favorite topics are movies/tv/video games going woke, "here's why liberalism and feminism are preventing you from having sex," and "[X] is trying to brainwash you or take something from you, but you're too smart or brave to let them. Let me tell you why..." 4Chan really set a weird template for modern right-wing youth movements, some people copied it, were very successful, and now hammer those hot topic buttons as much as they can.
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Lmao the name is quite literally Grand Theft Auto, now let’s make it about getting along and helping out the cops
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"here's why liberalism and feminism are preventing you from having sex," Now there's pimps and pornographers claiming that violent video games are woke degeneracy and that's are the reason you're not getting laid. 
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Guavanaut posted:That's the weird standout, because I can remember the original "traditional values counterculture" types going off about gangster rap and violent video games and video nasties, and they were mostly old Christian women also saying that porn causes rape and contraceptives and liberal culture cause premarital sex. It's not really a standout and flows with the other points. The message they are selling is that the move away from traditional gender norms hurts men by encouraging women to not marry young, not to have kids early, and to be financially independent, which hurts a lot of sources that pushed people to date and marry earlier before. It ties into the "feminism/liberalism/modern day values are taking things away from you" line that is basically the one connected subplot of all their arguments.
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It's incredible to me that they can take those positions while remaining generally secular. Typically such movements have some religious bloc behind them, but these guys are just like that. I guess the leftists who became tradcath fascists are using religion but that's more about shocking their peers than trying to change society.
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It's also why there is such a huge focus on "alpha males" and whatnot in the youth conservative culture. The idea is that 20% of men are hogging all the women because marriage and monogamy has been destroyed. That is why you need to become an alpha male. Then, you can be part of the crew that gets all the women and women are biologically attracted to alphas, so you can pick the best one and settle down like you are supposed to. zoux posted:It's incredible to me that they can take those positions while remaining generally secular. Typically such movements have some religious bloc behind them, but these guys are just like that. I guess the leftists who became tradcath fascists are using religion but that's more about shocking their peers than trying to change society. There's some religious undertones, but you're right. They shifted from religion to more secular ideas about masculinity and being persecuted. It seems to have worked in closing the gap a little between left-wing and right-wing young white nerds. It used to be a 65/35 split, but is closer to 50/50 among under 25s now. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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If I had to guess, the whole "I'm against GTA6 because how dare anyone make a game where you can kill Our Boys In Blue  " messaging is just a deflection from their real grievances, like the game having a female protagonist, or the trailer heavily featuring Black people in a Southern state. They just know that the time of Gamergate has largely passed (having morphed beyond video games by this point), and they can't say the second part unless they're already going loud.zoux posted:It's incredible to me that they can take those positions while remaining generally secular. Typically such movements have some religious bloc behind them, but these guys are just like that. I guess the leftists who became tradcath fascists are using religion but that's more about shocking their peers than trying to change society. Both the secular "Retvrn to Tradition" and Evangelical religious patriarchies both have the same end goal, which is to subjugate and control women's actions and bodies. The Evangelical ones just back up their lovely views with the Bible, while the Tates and Kirks of the world rely on  and appeals to teenagers who are insecure about why they aren't getting laid.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:If I had to guess, the whole "I'm against GTA6 because how dare anyone make a game where you can kill Our Boys In Blue Oh, no. They are absolutely not deflecting or shy about those complaints and are very eager to talk about them.
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zoux posted:It's incredible to me that they can take those positions while remaining generally secular. Typically such movements have some religious bloc behind them, but these guys are just like that. I guess the leftists who became tradcath fascists are using religion but that's more about shocking their peers than trying to change society. It doesn’t matter that’s it’s incoherent to them: “Political Romanticism tries to go behind the object-subject split in all existing things, to break the power of analysis, to regain the original unity, to accept rather than investigate, to “let be” rather than schematize.” That there is a contradiction between their general secular stance and the misogynistic positions doesn’t matter to them, they “let be” and accept the incoherent stances as a unity without evaluating them rationally or analyzing it.
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