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FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


I WON THE BETTING POOL ON TESSAS THIRD STUPID VOTE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS HALF-ASSED TITLE



Slippery Tilde

fuctifino posted:

Sunak met with the 1922 committee. Rumours on twitter say that there are enough letters to force his resignation

We could get our 4th PM in this election cycle, and I've lost count how many different ministers we've had in that time

If this happened, they couldnt possibly avoid having to call a General Election could they?

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EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

FiftySeven posted:

If this happened, they couldnt possibly avoid having to call a General Election could they?

Can and will

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

FiftySeven posted:

If this happened, they couldnt possibly avoid having to call a General Election could they?

If anything, by number 4 you should be quite good at doing it without an election.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

I'm genuinely not sure if there's enough Tories currently expected to hold on to their seats to even join a VONC.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

Every manifesto pledge is a :toxx: clause

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah I'm sure Braverman could draft a bill just saying it always gets done by the tory membership process in future and Starmer would abstain.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Funnily, the entire concept of "the maximum length of a parliament" is something that is decided... by parliament... which is why we went 10 years without an election after 1935, they kept voting to say they didn't have to have an election.

You might be able to get the current parliament to agree on the minimum length of a prime minister in order to disqualify Sunak.

I suppose in theory the maximum length of a parliament is decided by "until the mob breaks in with the pitchforks" ultimately but that house doesn't sit very often.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Dec 6, 2023

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


FiftySeven posted:

If this happened, they couldnt possibly avoid having to call a General Election could they?

I mean they can't kick the can down the road much longer, but another unelected PM during this parliament absolutely can happen.

Dunno that I expect it to, the Tories surely cannot be that daft. The chalice is well and truly poisoned, it'd have to be a deluded idiot who wants it. I suppose they have plenty of those tho

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

forkboy84 posted:

I mean they can't kick the can down the road much longer, but another unelected PM during this parliament absolutely can happen.

Dunno that I expect it to, the Tories surely cannot be that daft. The chalice is well and truly poisoned, it'd have to be a deluded idiot who wants it. I suppose they have plenty of those tho

The chalice is poisoned but you respawn on the lecture circuit or in a thinktank

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Even that has gone from "ignorable but well compensated facebook/meta drone" down to "audience of half a dozen ex klansmen at some American race purity enterprise nation talk"

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I know it's generally considered that the royals sticking their noses into parliamentary affairs is a big no-no, but I think in this case Charles could just refuse to recognise another Tory PM without an election and very few people would have a problem with it.

It won't happen, but it would at least be something.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

The Fixed Term Parliament Act could have been decent, but it was just overridden by total stupid poo poo in 2019, less than a decade later, proving that "no parliament can bind a future one" might sometimes be a case for having something that can.

How would it improve things? It'd just delay the election slightly.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I know it's generally considered that the royals sticking their noses into parliamentary affairs is a big no-no, but I think in this case Charles could just refuse to recognise another Tory PM without an election and very few people would have a problem with it.

It won't happen, but it would at least be something.

Yes - I’m sure this will be the particular government fuckup that will cause the monarch to upset the gravy train and jeopardise their life of indolent luxury

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

forkboy84 posted:

I mean they can't kick the can down the road much longer, but another unelected PM during this parliament absolutely can happen.

Dunno that I expect it to, the Tories surely cannot be that daft. The chalice is well and truly poisoned, it'd have to be a deluded idiot who wants it. I suppose they have plenty of those tho

You're not thinking like a Tory.
They don't see it as a poisoned chalice, unless they had an iota of care on how the country works.
It's all about personal gain. And for some this is the last time they are within getting that next tier of grifting.
The £8000 after dinner speeches, foreign investor invites to get your favour is some deal coming up, the amount of bribes from down the hierarchy desperate for an honor.
Sure they'll be there for less than a year, another 5 after if they are lucky, but they get the pension, and book deal for doing gently caress all and blaming it on every one else.
This is the last chance for Gove, Mogg, and a few others to get into no. 10.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Don't forget that sweet sweet PM pension!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

feedmegin posted:

How would it improve things? It'd just delay the election slightly.
Being able to loophole an act like that with another act with simple majority and a manifesto promise to repeal the act you just loopholed to get the election makes the entire process a joke.

I suppose from an accelerationist perspective you could say that's a good thing and they should push through as many clownshoes letters as possible until Rwanda is telling them what they can and can't legislate on, but it does require people pointing out the ridiculousness of the mechanism in order for even that to work.

happyhippy posted:

You're not thinking like a Tory.
But I'm not even platonically attracted to livestock.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
If there's a new leadership election, no-one with even the faintest hint of sense is going to run.
Therefore, it'll just be the absolute lunatic fringe taking part.
Not that it wouldn't be funny to see someone who's already announced they're stepping down throw their hat in the ring.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

My prediction is that Lord Hameron will be tasked with being the caretaker PM until the election, along with his Foreign Secretary position and probably the Immigration Minister position too.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
do it you cowards

Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I know it's generally considered that the royals sticking their noses into parliamentary affairs is a big no-no

That’s certainly quite a benign way of describing the event that would probably kick off Civil War 2.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

kingturnip posted:

If there's a new leadership election, no-one with even the faintest hint of sense is going to run.
Ah good

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

OwlFancier posted:

This is the first one I've been able to actually laugh at though in a long time, as hopefully it might kill the policy and it's not really making things worse for everyone else.

*monkey paw curls*

"The failed Rwanda deal was the last straw that broke Sunak's support among the party, paving way to Suella Braverman's entry to Downing Street 10."

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

fuctifino posted:

My prediction is that Lord Hameron will be tasked with being the caretaker PM until the election, along with his Foreign Secretary position and probably the Immigration Minister position too.

Honestly I wonder if david cameron shouting through the window of the house of commons might not be an improvement.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

PMQs will be Black Rod running between the two chambers passing messages back and forth

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Honestly I wonder if david cameron shouting through the window of the house of commons might not be an improvement.
Speaker, I don't believe that is the Lord's tongue protruding into the chamber.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

Speaker, I don't believe that is the Lord's tongue protruding into the chamber.

:vomarine:

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1731814217865466168

This was from a couple of days ago, but a relevant possible hell timeline

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'd say deport him to Rwanda instead but knowing that opportunist oval office he'd somehow run to the right of the Patriotic Front and be leading some kind of genocides didn't happen but if they did they were good wing within the decade, and nobody deserves that.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Being able to loophole an act like that with another act with simple majority and a manifesto promise to repeal the act you just loopholed to get the election makes the entire process a joke.

I suppose from an accelerationist perspective you could say that's a good thing and they should push through as many clownshoes letters as possible until Rwanda is telling them what they can and can't legislate on, but it does require people pointing out the ridiculousness of the mechanism in order for even that to work.

But I'm not even platonically attracted to livestock.

Well yes but that doesn't mean the FTPA itself would make any difference here (or is a good idea in general).

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


There's probably just about time for every sitting Tory MP to have a day as PM before they absolutely have to call an election, I think they should make the most of it

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Apparently Graham Linehan is in meltdown after being caught producing AI porn of one of his critics while pretending to be a woman on Twitter.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

He has to do that because if he didn't then the weird people might win.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Necrothatcher posted:

Apparently Graham Linehan is in meltdown after being caught producing AI porn of one of his critics while pretending to be a woman on Twitter.

oh no his reputation

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009


Going to need more guillotines, one at a time is too slow. :argh:

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
nice wallpaper grandma

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"

Necrothatcher posted:

Apparently Graham Linehan is in meltdown after being caught producing AI porn of one of his critics while pretending to be a woman on Twitter.

Lol this is the most Linehan update I have ever heard

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


The Perfect Element posted:

Lol this is the most Linehan update I have ever heard

He apparently had a podcast I guess about being transphobic bigots and his co-host was bemoaning that since starting this he's lost everything lol

https://twitter.com/ICanSeeForever1/status/1731987850810265974?t=DvS7drNn2jpOx0vlx7-4SA&s=19

Imagine burning up your entire life just to be Graham Linehan's lovely sidekick

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Nenonen posted:

*monkey paw curls*

"The failed Rwanda deal was the last straw that broke Sunak's support among the party, paving way to Suella Braverman's entry to Downing Street 10."
Braverman kills the policy to regain control and Starmer pledges to see it through if elected

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Necrothatcher posted:

Apparently Graham Linehan is in meltdown after being caught producing AI porn of one of his critics while pretending to be a woman on Twitter.

At what point does everyone realise this is all for attention? Linehan would rather be hated than forgotten. Irrelevance is his worst fear because then he will have to face that it was all for nothing.

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1965917
Oct 4, 2005

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1732540232459833611

lol

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