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our dodgy calculated gdp is superior I scream as our enemies produce more stuff. In the critical battle space of defrauding investors and developing fart apps we will triumph!
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zetamind2000 posted:been a while since I've seen a russia is a gas station reply December 6, 2023 post too
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1732363640307683600 hey where are the factories that produce the commodities that these companies rely upon
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zetamind2000 posted:been a while since I've seen a russia is a gas station reply its not even a reply lol
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stephenthinkpad posted:They can't possibly accept this production capacity problem, because it lends a straight path to the fundamental bug of free market capitalism. Look all you need to do is hit the 'rush build' button. If we had an arch-masters chapel we could buy new units with faith but we don't.
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PawParole posted:https://twitter.com/iwelsh/status/1732881724021850616
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Apple? Anazon, Walmart? How many tanks do they make in a day?
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You could probably retool at least Amazon warehouses or Walmart distribution to military uses a lot easier than tech or financial companies or anyone in the vast American workforce of office drones pretending to work in bullshit jobs. If America ever goes to war we'll have those misc bureaucratic operations once called paper pushing on loving lockdown. Plenty of recruits for that. Don't mind our tooth to tail ratio of 1: 100,000.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:hey where are the factories that produce the commodities that these companies rely upon american finance capital has detached itself from such lowly, base concerns as "needing commodities" and exists in a realm of pure Number
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PawParole posted:https://twitter.com/BankerWeimar/status/1732512538523267211 According to my Excel spreadsheet we can have a 1200% bigger military! They have military things on aliexpress right?
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zetamind2000 posted:been a while since I've seen a russia is a gas station reply To be completely fair I used the "Russia is just a heavily armed gas station" comment IRL some years ago. I wasn't nostradamus and certainly had my fair share of ignorance. The key distinction is "some years ago". Long before current_thing.
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Its funny that even in our own failures they seek to deny Russia a victory. You're not an industrial powerhouse, we just sent our Industry to China
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KomradeX posted:Its funny that even in our own failures they seek to deny Russia a victory. You're not an industrial powerhouse, we just sent our Industry to China My minimising the achievement of the other party they seek the mimise the magnitude of their own failure. It's just a cope.
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KomradeX posted:Its funny that even in our own failures they seek to deny Russia a victory. You're not an industrial powerhouse, we just sent our Industry to China This guy is Russian and it’s right, America used to have higher manufacturing production than every other country on earth until the neoliberals deindustrlized it.
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PawParole posted:This guy is Russian and it’s right, America used to have higher manufacturing production than every other country on earth until the neoliberals deindustrlized it. Much like the USA still thinks Russia is post collapse early 90s style, Russia thought the USA was 1970s super power style. It's all rather amusing once you step back and take it all in.
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i think i've said it before, but the whole "gas station with nukes" thing is really funny if you think about it even medium hard. you're basically saying that russia only has a shitload of the thing the world economy literally runs on plus the ability to end civilization as we know it at will and therefore they're weak and can safely be ignored like, even by the standards of shitlib cope this makes very little sense
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Cerebral Bore posted:i think i've said it before, but the whole "gas station with nukes" thing is really funny if you think about it even medium hard. you're basically saying that russia only has a shitload of the thing the world economy literally runs on plus the ability to end civilization as we know it at will and therefore they're weak and can safely be ignored That's why it keeps working. Most people don't.
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Cerebral Bore posted:i think i've said it before, but the whole "gas station with nukes" thing is really funny if you think about it even medium hard. you're basically saying that russia only has a shitload of the thing the world economy literally runs on plus the ability to end civilization as we know it at will and therefore they're weak and can safely be ignored laughing at the gas station geedeepee as i lost to the gigantic afghan geedeepee
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Danann posted:thankfully dogs of the american empire will be the southern quids who hamstring every attempt by the modern jefferson davis to attempt to reindustrialize america 
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PawParole posted:https://twitter.com/iwelsh/status/1732881724021850616 I really like reading Ian Welsh's stuff. I hope he's not a pedo or something.
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Listened to an interesting podcast that claimed that GDP doesn't measure how strong an economy is, but instead how interdependent. If I grow my own vegetables, or whatever, that doesn't 'contribute' to GDP in the same way as me having to depend on the market for my caloric needs. Late to star trek chat but the Borg were hippy star trek writers coming to grips with the fact their revolution is dead and now everyone speaks corporate speak and works in cubicle farms (open office shared workspace borg when).
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ProfessorBooty posted:Listened to an interesting podcast that claimed that GDP doesn't measure how strong an economy is, but instead how interdependent. If I grow my own vegetables, or whatever, that doesn't 'contribute' to GDP in the same way as me having to depend on the market for my caloric needs. yah it’s supposed to measure how much capitalism you have. same reason west germanys gdp was so much higher than east germanys and the citizens were so much wealthier, because in east germany less stuff was transacted on the market and a lot of peoples “assets” were state provided services (that got looted and stolen by west german capitalists in the reunification)
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ProfessorBooty posted:Listened to an interesting podcast that claimed that GDP doesn't measure how strong an economy is, but instead how interdependent. If I grow my own vegetables, or whatever, that doesn't 'contribute' to GDP in the same way as me having to depend on the market for my caloric needs. What podcast was this?
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DancingShade posted:According to my Excel spreadsheet we can have a 1200% bigger military! They have military things on aliexpress right? How about just like the strategic food reserve, we keep the peacetime military around in the form of a monetary reserve? Should save a lot of money and then once we need a military we'll just buy one.
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what i love most about all this is that these people *know* the material reality of.. well, reality. they see the reports, they know the numbers because their ~bottom line~ depends on them but they can't imagine a world where the answer is not just "more neoliberalism will fix this"
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Cerebral Bore posted:i think i've said it before, but the whole "gas station with nukes" thing is really funny if you think about it even medium hard. you're basically saying that russia only has a shitload of the thing the world economy literally runs on plus the ability to end civilization as we know it at will So does Saudi Arabia. Do you consider them to be industrial power house or great military power?
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Supposedly PLA debuted a new extra long range AA missile that can shoot 400km. https://x.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1730920121927925788?s=20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=?nqdaqXb_0bY President Putin: "First, in regards to China, we are ready to cooperate with China in any spheres. We have no limitations including military technologies. As we think about the future, the future world order, about ensuring our security, we're letting go of the traditional 'buy and sell' relations. We're thinking about the future, thinking about technology." One weird trick to defeat the US. Mearsheimers hate this. Jon Pod Van Damm has issued a correction as of 15:19 on Dec 8, 2023 |
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material reality? no! number only!
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PawParole posted:This guy is Russian and it’s right, America used to have higher manufacturing production than every other country on earth until the neoliberals deindustrlized it. Hell even into the early 80s before all that industry was sent to Asia the Soviet Union wasn't that far off from the US in industrial output. The Soviet Union wasn't hopeless out produced by the US even at the height of American industry
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Was it the inane Daily Show book that had a joke panel about the US streamlining the defence budget by just throwing money in a volcano? The MIC has made defence worse even though it costs more money. I don't know how better to convey that to normal people. People on C-SPAM get it without a second thought, so idk what it is that makes it hard for regular degular office workers.
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I didn’t think neoliberal rot would eat my military!
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fatelvis posted:What podcast was this? I'll link it. I don't think it's very good ultimately tbh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lDTdLQnSQo It was a youtube recommend I put on last night while decorating. I think this person is just another Jordan Peterson type who sounds more nuanced but is quick to use (softly) right wing rhetorical techniques. Still, the points they make on how a functioning economy can work are interesting. I'm not here for 'check out my cool economic model' anymore, unless it's from a literal fiction novel or something.
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Who knew the thing the entire modern world runs on was valuable? It's like when people mock China and Russia for producing steel and coal.
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ProfessorBooty posted:I'll link it. I don't think it's very good ultimately tbh: btw this is also part of what people mean when they say capitalism creates poverty. like, gdp per capita can be almost 0 but people still have plenty to eat and a place to live in an agricultural based society, but you force those same people off the farms and into the factories and even though their “income” went up they can’t afford rent and to buy food
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