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The grognards are Napoleonic French and the Bulldogs are Victorian British, when I want Battle of France era French. So that's why for me, personally. My plan is to convert the actual non lasguns, as in I'll use spares to model everything that isn't a las gun, and then if you see a Berthier bolt action rifle or whatever, yeah that's a las gun. I might look into chopping the bolt action rifles down into carbines if it's not a lot of work. Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Dec 8, 2023 |
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I partially forgot about the Bulldogs, but the French ones do have different helmets. Nothing wrong with options. v  vNot to mention the very different time periods and uniform cuts for that part.
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Jack B Nimble posted:The grognards are Napoleonic French and the Bulldogs are Victorian British, when I want Battle of France era French. So that's why for me, personally. And...Cooked Auto beat me to the punch. Edit: I guess you could see if their upgrade sprue works on your models, if they don't class too much with your existing aesthetic. Granted the helmets won't work, but the guns might. It could save on unnecessary work. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Dec 8, 2023 |
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Dec 8, 2023 21:49
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Oh nice, I think I just saw some initial screen shots, I'll take a closer look, thanks.
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How do you combine Napoleonic and WWI. That's a greater gap in time than WWII and Operation Enduring Freedom.
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Dec 8, 2023 21:52
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jassi007 posted:I wonder if some madlad has ever used necromunda models to make guard squads, could make them a penal legion or something crazy like that. Eschers have lasguns, special weapons etc. Might be tricky for heavy weapons but I'm sure it could be done. The backstory behind Mordant Prime is they’re a mining society that exploits the heck out of the workers and hates mutation which makes it seem perfect for GSC. Colour-wise I really like the dark blue grey armour and fatigues with red accents they have and the art shows a female guardsman who looks very close to an Escher so I figure it’ll be a fun side project.
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Eej posted:How do you combine Napoleonic and WWI. That's a greater gap in time than WWII and Operation Enduring Freedom. How indeed:  Those Grognards definetly warranted a second look, with those breastplates and great coats they're going to become my Tempestus Scions, fantastic.
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Yvonmukluk posted:And...Cooked Auto beat me to the punch. Still got it.  Although I think I still prefer the look of the WW1 British over the Bulldogs. Like if I really wanted to make Roane Deepers I would've gone for those and just swapped out the arms, they have the same stripped down look like the Roane art has. The Bulldogs are too blingy.
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Guard are pretty cool. Dudes and tanks? Artillery? Hell yeah.
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Cooked Auto posted:Still got it. I don't think there's been any actual art of the Deepers, has there? It looks like it's just been fanart.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I don't think there's been any actual art of the Deepers, has there? It looks like it's just been fanart. Gonna be honest since an English writer invented them (Dan Abbnet created them for Necropolis, right?) and they're laid back, easy going, and kind of lazy/undisciplined, but then turn out to have the hearts of lions when the chips are down, I figured they were a stand in for ANZAC troops. Edit - oh hey, apparently he confirmed that in a blog post. So yeah.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I don't think there's been any actual art of the Deepers, has there? It looks like it's just been fanart. There is, in the updated Sabbat World Crusade fluff book they have a decent army rundown, alongside the Hyrkan 8th, Vitrian Dragoons and Volpone Bluebloods. No one has seemingly scanned that though, for obvious reasons I assume.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Gonna be honest since an English writer invented them (Dan Abbnet created them for Necropolis, right?) Ghostmaker actually. Edit: Coincidentally enough I'm listening to the chapter where they come up right now.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I've kidn of wondered about using Van Saars not as Gue'vesa but as basically not-Tau, some enclave that has enough working STCs their tech's about at parity, just using Ash-Jumpers as Crisis Suit analogues. You just described something pretty similar to my ongoing project. I can say the tau unit range makes a really nice starting point for a high-tech humans total conversion army since the whole Tau army has a kind of humanoid feel to it. There's not really anything with a statline or ability that is wildly alien like you might get if you were trying to use, say, the Tyranid or Necron or Ork codexes, even down to the army playstyle as a whole. I was already committed to other models for the bulk of my units before the current Necromunda kits came out so I'm pretty jealous of you having the opportunity to use those from the outset but I've managed to include some elements of the Van Saar range in places:   (Please ignore the rough wip green stuff and filing work, I will tidy that up before I paint them) I'm using these to be counts-as Ethereals, with the idea of them being cyber-warfare specialists with intel and datahacking tools providing the equivalent abilities.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:absolutely deranged words of a lunatic Thing is though all the pauldron'd space satanists, cow person gundam soviets and elves and evil elves need some regular old joes to contrast with so that their weirdness is meaningful. If everyone is weird nobody is weird. Guard anchor the setting. The game needs a Just Some Guys faction to contrast with how inhuman and weird everything else. It's totally fine to not like them though. People like different things. quote:And they're supposed to be the common man of the setting but every single named guard unit, cadian, catachan, krieger, praetorian, valhallan, vostroyan, mordian, tanith, armageddon, tallarn, etc is some special kind of badass with a lasgun. Never once do we get to see the actual throwaway soldier of the imperium that the guard is supposed to be. None of these are particularly special badasses though. They are all Just Some Guys. They're all Just Some Guys in slightly weird uniforms because they're all from different places. And the Cadian models aren't even supposed to always represent Cadians absolutely 100% of the time. The equipment and uniforms used by the Cadians are the closest the Guard has to a standardized uniform. Your Cadian models are supposed to also represent the Sixth Shitfuckers Regiment from planet Nowhere just as much as they represent actual Cadians. Especially now that Cadia is no longer producing more Cadians. That said I find Guard slightly boring to play, which is why I don't really play my Guard army much. Captain Magic posted:Guard are pretty cool. Dudes and tanks? Artillery? Hell yeah. 
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Even the current miniatures of Gaunt's Ghosts use the same boots and leggings as Cadians, and armor chest pieces too.
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I have a giant pile of Guard to build at some point; I plan to make a full regiment of Miasman Redcowls using admech heads, and do up the tanks like the ones in Fury with logs and sandbags and mud all over them. Gonna be like a full-time job though, and I already have two of those at the moment.
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That post raging about the Guard being a boring faction completely ignores all the amazing characterful troops they have access too. It ignores how the Guard have Ogryns and Nork fuckin Deddog. It ignores how the Guard have Ratling Snipers. It ignores how the Guard have Sentinel Walkers. It ignores how the Guard have Elysian Drop Troopers who aren't in 10th I think, but are still rad as hell. It ignores how the Guard have Attilan Rough Riders. And it gnores how the Guard have motherfucking Sly Marbo. The Guard are an awesome faction.
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Still need to repaint all of my IG armor. Would want to paint them in the same colour scheme as my tiny superheavies, but that's going to be pricey because I'd need to buy a whole bunch of agrax and lahmian medium for the shading. So I might need to reconsider. Although considering I'm painting some Guard as Vietnam Marines I might go down a similar route for that.
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I will say that I'm not very inspired to paint the Cadian models. After you get through just the base layer of clothes, armor, and backpack/straps, there's still a whole lot of detail left on them with pouches, buckles, and other knick-knacks that feels like a chore to deal with.
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Imperial Guard: the faction for painters with a modicum of an attention span
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Cadians are the most numerous and successful kind of Guard so they're the template for random Guard regiments from planets that don't have their own tradition
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I always just think that my army had Cadian advisors during training, etc. After playing the PC Battlefleet Gothic games (fantastic for lore bits), I like to imagine it was just part of the big chain of planets and systems that fed Cadia as well. Handy for galactic logistics. Also, Aliens is the best movie ever so my squads of ultimate badasses will protect the Imperium.
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AndyElusive posted:That post raging about the Guard being a boring faction completely ignores all the amazing characterful troops they have access too. I think that post was less about the Guard not having cool units and more that the lore makes it seem like they are disposable cannon fodder thrown by the trillions into trenches to fight gods, which is awesome but not really a reflection of the reality on the tabletop.
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I'm painting guard figures right now.
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To be fair, none of the factions fight on the tabletop like they are described in the lore. Especially space marines.
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Wrr posted:I'm painting guard figures right now. 
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IncredibleIgloo posted:To be fair, none of the factions fight on the tabletop like they are described in the lore. Especially space marines. And especially the Deathwatch.
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Hello I would like to field exactly one custodes please
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IncredibleIgloo posted:To be fair, none of the factions fight on the tabletop like they are described in the lore. Especially space marines. It’s terrible! For an elf citizen militia, Guardians don’t have a single cupcake, book of poetry, or musical instrument in the kit!
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The space elves were always the less cooler counterpart to the fantasy guys in white robes and shiny silver armor.
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Space marines play like space marines... ...in 30k 
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Safety Factor posted:Space marines play like space marines... Oh yeah? What do the xenos races play like in 30k 
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The fine art of "Not being seen" of course.
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They're dead. As the Emperor intended.
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Back in my 4th/5th edition days there was a fan made codex floating around called Movie Marines, which attempted to give space marines lore accurate rules. I never saw it in action but it sounded hilariously broken.
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Probably based on the White Dwarf article that had rules for them, published around the time of Dawn of War was released I think. Turns out I still had the rules pages on my imgur account:   Edit: https://www.warhammer-community.com...viewmini9/12/23 For those who forgot the Black Library preview, here's the obligatory mini reveal. And I can't believe it's not a Space Marine!  Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Dec 9, 2023 |
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That is loving rad holy poo poo
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My brother is building a Bad Moons army and he's freaking out.
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Cooked Auto posted:For those who forgot the Black Library preview, here's the obligatory mini reveal. And I can't believe it's not a Space Marine! I've been pining for a nazdreg rerelease or maybe ghaz' top mekaniak orkimedes but this will do nicely. Squig with gun on head is pretty good. Does that make the squig a technical?
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