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dead gay comedy forums posted:Playing the greatest hits, "the dominant ideology is the ideology of the dominant class" from the The German Ideology. Zodium posted:tremendous post.
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FuzzySlippers posted:Yeah, it feels like one of the defining elements of the contemporary financial class is that they don't understand their methods are a scam. They genuinely believe that this tail chasing financialization is just the best possible way to organize society. The significance is that since they are true believers, they aren't going to change course even if it is in their interest to do so. That's why I don't think overtly financialized neoliberal states are able to fight and win actual wars. They either have to become a different sort of society or find an acceptable defeat that is able to be reframed as victory. When you no longer consider material reality to be significant on its own then managing perception is the safer and more profitable course. Yeah I apologize for the break into Italian pronunciation, the new multi-language model doesn't know when to stick to a language and when someone is using an expression. It doesn't usually break into Italian pronunciation. I used the service everyone uses to re-dub Cum Town, Chapo and Red Scare in foreign languages, and then trained it on the narrator from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3PHVtTKpxA e: Actor's name was Marvin Miller, for the interested. https://voca.ro/15zwc7vVKRU7 https://voca.ro/1mHGDNlex7PQ e: This take is better, but was before I worked in the section from A Christmas Carol https://voca.ro/1215mNxS3fiD Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 01:53 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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More proof that people don't read enough marx tbh.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Playing the greatest hits, "the dominant ideology is the ideology of the dominant class" from the The German Ideology. very well put
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crepeface posted:very well put Gramsci put it in a way that's more understandable to normal people, imo: common sense is just the ideology of the dominant class. All of that Max Weber stuff every middle class person in the Anglosphere implicitly or explicitly believes is just this.
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Dec 11, 2023 02:23
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It's also not about returns. US capitalists waste a lot of money on stupid and pointless projects with no return. They have so much money that they don't even know what to do with it. The problem is a lack of imagination. Not the means.
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Lostconfused posted:It's also not about returns. what if yachts that could launch more yachts
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Frosted Flake posted:Yeah I apologize for the break into Italian pronunciation, the new multi-language model doesn't know when to stick to a language and when someone is using an expression. It doesn't usually break into Italian pronunciation. I don't know if it is literally this dude, but he tickles some nostalgia memory of documentaries in my youth. These are really good. Is the service some wink wink nudge nudge thing? I've never heard of it before. I wonder how legally nervous this makes people if you train it on your own voice or someone who has given explicit permission. My sister works for an accessibility office at a college and sometimes has to record herself reading stuff for students and she'd probably love to use it at least before all this stuff puts her out of a job one day (everyone around her feels the doom on the horizon but that's a topic for another thread).
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Elon Musk can imagine himself needing a means to escape earth's gravity field. He can't imagine himself ever needing a munitions factory.
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It isn't about the actual returns but the perception and ideology of returns. My experience around wealthy types and corporate higher ups is that what they do is rarely any kind of actual optimized profitable course, but it's usually rationalized as so. Part of Bullshit Jobs is that a lot of corporate structure is unnecessary and therefore reduces profits, but it fits within the ideology/perceptions of how work is supposed to be conducted. Otherwise, it's about flexing and flexing is generally not very imaginative.
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Exactly, they have to imagine a bullshit excuse to do something.
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gradenko_2000 posted:"The Americans won Midway via airplane wave tactics" would be an incredible bit to troll with But... we did?
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BrotherJayne posted:But... we did? that's why it would be funny - nobody would want to frame the narrative that way, even if it were true
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FuzzySlippers posted:It isn't about the actual returns but the perception and ideology of returns. My experience around wealthy types and corporate higher ups is that what they do is rarely any kind of actual optimized profitable course, but it's usually rationalized as so. Part of Bullshit Jobs is that a lot of corporate structure is unnecessary and therefore reduces profits, but it fits within the ideology/perceptions of how work is supposed to be conducted. why do they have this ideology tho how did it become dominant
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FuzzySlippers posted:I don't know if it is literally this dude, but he tickles some nostalgia memory of documentaries in my youth. These are really good. Is the service some wink wink nudge nudge thing? I've never heard of it before. lol they have a bunch of stuff set up for "creators" so my guess is that either YouTubers or podcasters are already using it. Finding a way to turn books into audiobooks that's not Siri reading it in accessibility mode has been a lifesaver for me. I could do without, and I'm happy to pay for audiobooks where they exist. It's just that I have to read these 400 page books and sometimes it would be nice to listen to them while doing other things. It's a toy, in other words. I am also concerned that this is going to hurt voice acting. Like everything else AI, it's a pastiche of real work real people dedicated themselves to, and no substitute. If I had Audible's money, I would pay actors and authors to come in and record, but I think the idea these companies are hoping for is that they'll own the rights to those actors voices or something instead. https://elevenlabs.io/voice-lab A silver lining - as you said, I expect they, like the AI art and generative text people, are going to get slapped for copyright violations sooner or later I threw this together in 30 seconds from a small sample, so it's not very good, but it would still get you sued to oblivion, I'd imagine https://voca.ro/13LMTjNZAEJ1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYttHXAszkk Anyway, it's a fun little toy and for people who have to record themselves speak and hate it, I fall into that camp, certainly, it is kind of nice.
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The only tts service I know that supports regex is on android (voice aloud), so the only way to read SA threads for me is use voice aloud with a lot of regex rules to remove/replace things I don't need to hear (such as poster reg/sig/av portion). I wish vouce aloud is on windows. The voices themselves are just serviceable but I like it enough that I don't mind using to read epub files instead of going through the trouble of converting audible files into mp3 format.
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Lostconfused posted:It's also not about returns. Isn't "imagination" itself just suffering from the same issue? Every step of the process required to train someone to do proper research is also designed to maximize profits instead of maximize the efficiency and efficacy of said research.
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the only text to voice service you need is xtranormal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux3IPRGK6F8
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the only text to voice service you need is xtranormal speaking of lf xtranormal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-JrPFkcEq4
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goddamnit I was looking for that one instead and couldn’t find it by just searching for jdpon guess I could have just browsed krinkle’s channel
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FuzzySlippers posted:Yeah, it feels like one of the defining elements of the contemporary financial class is that they don't understand their methods are a scam. They genuinely believe that this tail chasing financialization is just the best possible way to organize society. The significance is that since they are true believers, they aren't going to change course even if it is in their interest to do so. That's why I don't think overtly financialized neoliberal states are able to fight and win actual wars. They either have to become a different sort of society or find an acceptable defeat that is able to be reframed as victory. When you no longer consider material reality to be significant on its own then managing perception is the safer and more profitable course. We can extend this analysis to other sectors. A lot of the MIC is obsessed with startupland (as is a lot of industry in the West in general) and startup people genuinely, deeply believe that delivering non-functional products is the best possible way of doing things.
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:We can extend this analysis to other sectors. A lot of the MIC is obsessed with startupland (as is a lot of industry in the West in general) and startup people genuinely, deeply believe that delivering non-functional products is the best possible way of doing things. It's never about delivering any product. It's all about making the valuation high as possible, selling and leaving the third or fourth round investors holding the bag as they lose their shirts. Imagine a military that bets the bank on say, munitions delivered by trained owls. Really bets everything, invests a fortune. Then after 10-12 years the owl farm closes down, the shells are all discovered to be hollow and 100 billion has all been lost to consultant fees. And now you have a massive capability gap because you designed your whole force around the owls and can't undo the last 12 years of force planning. DancingShade has issued a correction as of 13:20 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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so you are saying I can theoretically turn the thread into a radio play with a bunch of noir movie characters speaking to each other?
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Tankbuster posted:so you are saying I can theoretically turn the thread into a radio play with a bunch of noir movie characters speaking to each other? Yes.
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https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-recruiting-service-tracking-data/ lol
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‘this isn’t like ace combat AT ALL’
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"capitalist country who doesn't pay recruits enough shocked by capitalism happening"
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Playing the greatest hits, "the dominant ideology is the ideology of the dominant class" from the The German Ideology.  also lmao forever that capitalism can't even get people to sign up for fighter jock poo poo
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lol at Liz Warlord quote:One person keen to see the resulting data is Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee’s subcommittee on personnel. Warren grilled the heads of the services’ recruiting commands, including AFRS boss Brig. Gen. Christopher Amrhein, at a Dec. 6 hearing, saying that many healthy candidates are held up in a lengthy medical accessions review process due to conditions as minor as a childhood wrist sprain. she has a way with troops and assessing their health
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Lostconfused posted:It's also not about returns. the ideology says that wasting a billion dollars on a hundred projects that all fail hoping to find one that will return 10 billion is better than investing a billion dollars for a 5% return because you can bail out of the 100 projects before they go tits up and hopefully make bank and leave other people holding the bag DancingShade posted:It's never about delivering any product. It's all about making the valuation high as possible, selling and leaving the third or fourth round investors holding the bag as they lose their shirts. bingo
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Frosted Flake posted:The more concerning thing imo is that it proves that colour revolutions can be induced to fight to the death and can't be rolled back. You could if you perform a Hamas (Syria) morality play for negative reinforcement to the rest of the country. Posting it here because of the weak of neoliberalism to manufacture enough artillery guns to encircle a town, produce plentiful artillery shells and replacement parts for artillery, train conscripts to sit in place and turn anyone back trying to retreat from a town, dig trenches, and have someone take the fall of a massacre. AmyL has issued a correction as of 20:47 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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Thanks for the appreciation guyse. --- crepeface posted:why do they have this ideology tho the super TL;DR of it is compound interest. The longer answer: financial capitalism takes over industrial as more means of capital transaction become interesting or necessary for its own expansion, forming means of accumulation that are faster than the rate of expansion for material value. Engels on vol. 3: "The Stock Exchange", Friedrich Engels, notes to Capital vol. 3 posted:
Through stocks and all sorts of securities, a speculative valuation can be assigned to companies on the combination of its factories, stores, resources, production, etc - that can be summarized in its share ticket price. The stock price does not reflect at all what the actual material value of the company is. But this valuation can be then operated in many, many different forms that can provide massive returns larger than the actual material value produced by the company (such as in options etc), through the magic of fictitious capital. The stockbroker could loan, invest and speculate on twenty different factories at the same time, while the industrialist works only on his own business; the stockbroker also provides the credit for the industrialist for that exact same reason. This eventually leads to The Oldest Man posted:the ideology says that wasting a billion dollars on a hundred projects that all fail hoping to find one that will return 10 billion is better than investing a billion dollars for a 5% return because you can bail out of the 100 projects before they go tits up and hopefully make bank and leave other people holding the bag Contemporary capitalism is extremely grift-welcoming because for that type of capitalist (the bourgeois person with Actual Money) matters little to piss cash if it can pulverize into two hundred ventures in which one will flip into an "unicorn" and make jackpot once it goes into initial public offer. Money managers, who are not in the top level but occupy second or third in global capitalism, are there for the very reason of organizing and expediting that process in smaller firms (such as in the form of venture capital). Another way to not worry about it is just to form a Blackrock who does everything for you, while also guaranteeing your Actual Money through being major investor in many Actual Companies That Provide Lots of Actual Revenue, such as wal-mart, amazon, exxon, chevron, apple etc. You will never get to become a Walton or anything like that, but you get to be on a nice eight to a cool twelve billion USD mark (publicly ofc, you might have way more) without absolutely any effort at all. Every now and then you get a payday because they have flipped an unicorn. Everything is pretty good until that person suddenly has to try their hand at the 155mm Shell Production International Index. How do you make hands and a mind that have never really struggled in laboring for real value understand that they cannot solve this problem by throwing cash at it?
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Contemporary capitalism is extremely grift-welcoming because for that type of capitalist (the bourgeois person with Actual Money) matters little to piss cash if it can pulverize into two hundred ventures in which one will flip into an "unicorn" and make jackpot once it goes into initial public offer. It's very hard to explain to normies that IPOs are not when you can get in on the ground floor, but rather when all the real players recruit bag-holders so they can cash out.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Everything is pretty good until that person suddenly has to try their hand at the 155mm Shell Production International Index. How do you make hands and a mind that have never really struggled in laboring for real value understand that they cannot solve this problem by throwing cash at it? Well, you present solutions that require cash being thrown at it, Excalibur, the proposed new RA shells, loving ramjets. Those are all extremely expensive, so it satisfies the requirement that they have a way to throw money at a problem.
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Frosted Flake posted:Well, you present solutions that require cash being thrown at it, Excalibur, the proposed new RA shells, loving ramjets. Those are all extremely expensive, so it satisfies the requirement that they have a way to throw money at a problem. Of course. Which, by self-contradictions of capitalism, managed to create categories of capitalists in their middle and lower echelons, such as the grifter-sorta-entrepreneur These are people who are very well-off and specialize in setting up businesses and companies that are specifically targeted to capture the money from the inability/incapacity/unwillingness of the Actually Rich People for a solution to a problem. Solving is completely apart of the purpose here. What these provide are means of value extraction through a parlor trick, offering a vehicle than can solve the problem while also providing a future investment payoff, but also as means of serious narcissistic gratification for the investors (a secondary function in the individual level of things). For examples, see any startup that tried to come with something other than trains for public transit
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Frosted Flake posted:I used the service everyone uses to re-dub Cum Town, Chapo and Red Scare in foreign languages, and then trained it on the narrator from this: ironic that this video really drives home how much we're all missing out now that no one uses live orchestras for film / television anymore. lmao at 0:20 - 0:45 also thank you dead gay comedy forums for your excellent content
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AmyL posted:Something something neoliberals and liberals not remembering history, focused on short-term market value something something. look if you diverted more MIC pork barrels to the constituencies of the Ms. Insider Trader she might figure out the real problem isn't because of 70 days waiting for medicals
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