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Kestral posted:If you were putting together a sort of RPG charcuterie plate for people who have only ever played D&D, and you wanted to provide a sampler for the modern landscape of the hobby, what would you put on it? Microscope to see how much a group can create with a fairly small amount of rules and some structured improv Fellowship 2E to see how different a game with roughly the same elevator pitch as D&D can be
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Try Golden Sky Stories or Honey Heist - give 'em a chance to play a game that isn't 90% rules for murdering someone and stealing their poo poo
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Dec 11, 2023 05:40
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What would be a good system where you can play in a setting that is like the vibes in this music video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1xZ_kAhjMc
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Kestral posted:If you were putting together a sort of RPG charcuterie plate for people who have only ever played D&D, and you wanted to provide a sampler for the modern landscape of the hobby, what would you put on it? I really like games that different kinds of players would enjoy. Take them on a tour of different approaches to roleplaying. Ghostbusters: International may be the best RPG ever written. Open up a Ghostbusters franchise in your town, see what happens. While folks with hesitate roleplaying a one armed dwarven rogue, they’ll totally be fine being Winston or Walter Peck…but a good guy. Amber Diceless is super unique. Grab a deck of cards, place everyone in their own rooms, and roleplay out a bunch of nobles vying for the throne. Fate is a game that really needs to be on this list. It just opens the door to so many other games and approaches to play. Stealing the Throne is a game that I think gets into a teamwork mood. It is also GM-less and all the prep you do at the table. It offers something different than Amber but also different than most other games in that you have to spend some time making the world and don’t answer to a GM. Dungeon Crawl Classics: Portal Under the Stars is leaning in to dnd and taking away all pretense that your character matters. Smash a buttton for 4-8 characters and watch them all die. If they like the game, their survivors suddenly seem interesting. I think you can learn a lot about how the ttrpg world works through one shots of these games. In fact, I think these (or similar equivalents) would probably make a good first step in an OKcupid for rpg groups.
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Dec 11, 2023 12:13
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PuttyKnife posted:Amber Diceless is super unique. Grab a deck of cards, place everyone in their own rooms, and roleplay out a bunch of nobles vying for the throne. For some reason this reminded me that there's a one shot scenario for Burning Wheel that starts as you all find a magic sword. It has pregen characters who all have their own reasons for wanting it and is designed as a demo for the system. I would add that to the list as well
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Dec 11, 2023 15:14
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Kestral posted:If you were putting together a sort of RPG charcuterie plate for people who have only ever played D&D, and you wanted to provide a sampler for the modern landscape of the hobby, what would you put on it? Paranoia. Unlearn what you have learned (about party unity).
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Dec 11, 2023 18:53
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Mirage posted:Paranoia.
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Dec 11, 2023 19:06
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Oh! Run a 1e d&d tournament module like ToH or Tamoachan. This is advice for anyone really, it's loads of fun. It's basically rules free.
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Dec 11, 2023 19:20
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Kestral posted:With all that in mind, what else should I consider putting in here to showcase meaningfully different facets of the hobby, that you can get a decent idea of in 1-4 short sessions, with five players?
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Dec 11, 2023 21:07
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Is there a reason I'm suddenly getting videos of John Wick reviewing rpgs on my youtube feed?
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Dec 11, 2023 21:24
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No, not that kind of failure.
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DalaranJ posted:Is there a reason I'm suddenly getting videos of John Wick reviewing rpgs on my youtube feed?
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Dec 12, 2023 00:03
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Keanu as John Wick reviewing tabletop games with his co-hosts, Keanu as Jonathan Harker and Keanu as John Constantine, all equally bewildered. Off to the side Keanu as Johnny Mnemonic and Keanu as Johnny Silverhand argue over the best cyberpunk games.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Keanu as John Wick reviewing tabletop games with his co-hosts, Keanu as Jonathan Harker and Keanu as John Constantine, all equally bewildered. Off to the side Keanu as Johnny Mnemonic and Keanu as Johnny Silverhand argue over the best cyberpunk games. it turns out Johnny Silverhand has played every TTRPG known to man and has hot takes on them.
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Dec 12, 2023 02:09
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Oh, by the way, I bet you can guess what his channel name is. The real John Wick
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Dec 12, 2023 03:29
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Keanu as Ted would make it amazing.
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Dec 12, 2023 10:15
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Ted seems like a chill game player, only plays indie and import games.
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Dec 12, 2023 10:19
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there’s a lot of Keanu fans looking for movie clips and wondering why the algorithm keeps directing them towards some neckbeard ranting about D&D or whatever but he’s just more white noise alongside the dudes who look and act exactly like him except he rants about rpgs instead of why there are too many women in Star Wars movies
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Ratoslov posted:it turns out Johnny Silverhand has played every TTRPG known to man and has hot takes on them.
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Dec 12, 2023 16:05
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My "horizons broadening" RPG sampler would be Kids on Bikes, Apocalypse World: Burned Over, Mouse Guard or Fellowship, Mothership or CoC (depending on which kind of horror they prefer), and a goofy one page RPG like Lasers and Feelings.
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Dec 12, 2023 20:41
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Capfalcon posted:My "horizons broadening" RPG sampler would be Kids on Bikes, Apocalypse World: Burned Over, Mouse Guard or Fellowship, Mothership or CoC (depending on which kind of horror they prefer), and a goofy one page RPG like Lasers and Feelings. add mongoose traveller and you have a perfect list imo
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Dec 13, 2023 02:27
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Oh hell yes, I get to be the one to tell the thread... They fired Mike Mearls!!! 
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Dec 13, 2023 02:32
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Jimbozig posted:Oh hell yes, I get to be the one to tell the thread... Where was that posted and is there any verification that it's real?
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Dec 13, 2023 02:39
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Sounds about right, WotC has always done layoffs right before the holidays.
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King of Solomon posted:Where was that posted and is there any verification that it's real?
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Dec 13, 2023 02:42
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Hasbro corporate just announced big layoffs a couple days ago so that tracks too.
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sebmojo posted:add mongoose traveller and you have a perfect list imo Open to it for sure, but never actually played it.
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Kestral posted:If you were putting together a sort of RPG charcuterie plate for people who have only ever played D&D, and you wanted to provide a sampler for the modern landscape of the hobby, what would you put on it? Glorantha, for a wild fantasy setting unlike any other. Maybe ease into it with 13th Age Glorantha.
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King of Solomon posted:Where was that posted and is there any verification that it's real? I don't have any verification. I grabbed this screenshot from someone who posted it on Bluesky. I also saw Olivia Hill posting about it on Twitter, but she might have seen the same thing I did. And I don't use FB, so no clue what's there. It's possible I got taken by a fake screenshot, but I hope not. Assuming it's true, I'm glad to see him finally gone - it's not quite justice since it was just their annual layoffs and not him actually getting fired for what he did, but I'll take it.
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in no particular order: Lancer OR Gubat Banwa (more interesting tactical crunchy gameplay), Tenra Bansho Zero OR Double Cross (games with a 'choose how you go out in a blaze of glory' mechanic that enforce that rng death doesn't have to be a thing), Brindlewood Bay or Tales from the Loop, depending if you want to play Jessica Fletcher or the Stranger Things crew, Fellowship (lotr/dnd/jrpg but pbta), Wanderhome OR Golden Sky Stories (diceless gentle storytelling), Fledge Witch OR Convictor Drive (extremely quick pick up and play games), Shinobigami OR Picaresque Roman (games actually built for player conflict and pvp), Ryuutama that's a pretty close approximation of the spread of gaming I've been doing this year and/or contain things worth exploring as someone who's only played dnd.
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Lots of good suggestions here for horizon-broadening games, thanks folks! Some new things to consider, some reinforcement of what I'd been tenatively considering. Some specific questions and comments: Vadun posted:I'd definitely throw a funnel in there. This is a great idea that I'd completely overlooked. Any funnels you'd recommend that we could either complete in 1-3 sessions, or that would give a satisfying experience in that length of time? MonsieurChoc posted:Glorantha, for a wild fantasy setting unlike any other. God, I'd love to. If I can get them to play Glorantha with me I'll do it, but that's got to have room to breathe, and this current run is going to be 3-4 sessions per game max. Putting that on the list as for post-Blades though, good call. Leraika posted:in no particular order: Lancer OR Gubat Banwa (more interesting tactical crunchy gameplay) How's Lancer in a one-shot or short-series context, something like 2-4 sessions including character creation? That's another one that I definitely want to do with this group, but I'm concerned that it won't really get a chance to spread its wings in a short run.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Glorantha, for a wild fantasy setting unlike any other. Gloranthia is amazing, but it's does seem to have a hefty rules lift from the versions I have seen.
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Kestral posted:This is a great idea that I'd completely overlooked. Any funnels you'd recommend that we could either complete in 1-3 sessions, or that would give a satisfying experience in that length of time? Sailors on the Starless Sea is the one to beat for Dungeon Crawl Classics, but I'm also partial to the one in the back of Mutant Crawl Classics, the 'Assault on the Sky High Tower'
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Vadun posted:Sailors on the Starless Sea is the one to beat for Dungeon Crawl Classics, but I'm also partial to the one in the back of Mutant Crawl Classics, the 'Assault on the Sky High Tower' Conveniently, Starless Sea is the only DCC module I own and have actually read! That said, the DCC corebook is over 500 pages, which is a lot for a single adventure. I imagine most of it can be dispensed with for a peasant funnel, but what should I actually read and get GM-level familiar with if I'm going to do Starless Sea?
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Funnels don't use any of those rules because no-one has any skills or spells yet Technically you need a million weird dice but your can fake it with the regular selection easily enough. Funnels are hilarious.
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sebmojo posted:Funnels don't use any of those rules because no-one has any skills or spells yet poo poo, sometimes you don't even roll dice in a funnel. "The orc hits you in the head with his axe. His minimum damage is 2D4 and you have 1 HP so you're instantly killed, who's your next dirt farmer character?"
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Capfalcon posted:Gloranthia is amazing, but it's does seem to have a hefty rules lift from the versions I have seen. Steal the setting but leave the rules would be my take on Glorantha.
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Kestral posted:How's Lancer in a one-shot or short-series context, something like 2-4 sessions including character creation? That's another one that I definitely want to do with this group, but I'm concerned that it won't really get a chance to spread its wings in a short run. i think it would work okay as a one-shot, but i'd give them premades. character creation is pretty complex and like many high-crunch games the order in which it encourages you to do things doesn't really line up with the order in which you actually learn new subsystems also i can't believe nobody's mentioned Nobilis in this conversation. probably a better representative of diceless TTRPGs than Amber frankly
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:i think it would work okay as a one-shot, but i'd give them premades. character creation is pretty complex and like many high-crunch games the order in which it encourages you to do things doesn't really line up with the order in which you actually learn new subsystems I like Amber mostly because it doesn’t hinge on bible stuff. Being a spoiled noble kid seems an easier mental model than being the personification of something. Ymmv is always the case.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:i think it would work okay as a one-shot, but i'd give them premades. character creation is pretty complex and like many high-crunch games the order in which it encourages you to do things doesn't really line up with the order in which you actually learn new subsystems I think with Lancer, a good bit of the fun is making "your" mech, so I'd give "Premades" but let each one have a few "Pick one of these three options." So the artillery can get sniper rifle, giant cannon, or missile spam, for example.
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