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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/12/german-mcm-replacement-has-failed-resulting-in-life-extension/ German MCM-Replacement Fails, Current Fleet To Receive Life-Extension Planning effort to replace mine warfare capability resulted in cost almost double the set budget. Failure means at least ten years lost in replacing ageing capability. . . . Behold the industrial powerhouse of Europe and their mighty military machine.
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tbf, german military machine being a funny joke is probably the best news a europe can hope for. hopefully all the other military machines of the world soon follow it
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germany was the heart of europes arms industries and also the country that got deindustrialised this year whatever America's plans are for NATO, Europe having industrial capacity is not part of them
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Lol what's a plan
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Maybe it heralds a return to cottage industry NATO armaments. Where every barrel and shell is bespoke, non standard and hand made by individual craftsmen. Like say, old mechanical watches. Ammo interoperability? Flexible functionality? Hah you jest my good sir! Better to ask the size of the smith's hand span when gripped around a iron cannonball.
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Palladium posted:look if you diverted more MIC pork barrels to the constituencies of the Ms. Insider Trader she might figure out the real problem isn't because of 70 days waiting for medicals Munce would probably taste better and have better quality control than pork from the MIC.
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Regarde Aduck posted:germany was the heart of europes arms industries and also the country that got deindustrialised this year lol remember when the germans had a cutting edge memory manufacturer in 2009
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Regarde Aduck posted:germany was the heart of europes arms industries and also the country that got deindustrialised this year NATO's #1 target is nations other than the US in NATO
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bedpan posted:NATO's #1 target is nations other than the US in NATO To keep the Americans in charge, Germany down and the Russians out. Working thus far.
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DancingShade posted:Maybe it heralds a return to cottage industry NATO armaments. Where every barrel and shell is bespoke, non standard and hand made by individual craftsmen. Like say, old mechanical watches. An entire military with the troop-harming capacity of the V-22
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https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1733811831406547079 if it's china im sure they'll make anti-aircraft artillery great again
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wouldn't AAA be well-suited for shooting at drones? like, idk how you'd work the detection and targeting, but at least throwing clouds of shrapnel at those altitudes would be better than trying to hit them with missiles (and more reliable than trying to do it with small arms)
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Tbh I'm trying to work out what purpose a 76mm AAA would actually serve?
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Slavvy posted:Tbh I'm trying to work out what purpose a 76mm AAA would actually serve? I've been armchair hypothesizing large caliber autocannon aa was going to come back to combat drone swarms. You can get a pretty reasonable fragmentation shell in 76mm while still getting that really high rate of fire. Large caliber autocannon gives you that sweet spot of a rate of fire/slew rate/ammo (e.g., stuff SAMs generally aren't mathing out well on vs lots of drones) but much longer ranges and a higher lethal burst radius than smaller stuff like 20 or 30mm. The Oldest Man has issued a correction as of 06:31 on Dec 12, 2023 |
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Maybe this is one of those things where the Chinese are building countermeasures for a thing only they can even do
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Slavvy posted:Tbh I'm trying to work out what purpose a 76mm AAA would actually serve? Technically it's anti anything in range.
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The Oldest Man posted:the ideology says that wasting a billion dollars on a hundred projects that all fail hoping to find one that will return 10 billion is better than investing a billion dollars for a 5% return because you can bail out of the 100 projects before they go tits up and hopefully make bank and leave other people holding the bag If you want this exact thing worded in a funnier way, watch this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo The Oldest Man posted:It's very hard to explain to normies that IPOs are not when you can get in on the ground floor, but rather when all the real players recruit bag-holders so they can cash out. Bagholders focus on the "Initial" in IPO, but the real players focus on "Public", and understand it really means "Rubes". DancingShade posted:Maybe it heralds a return to cottage industry NATO armaments. Where every barrel and shell is bespoke, non standard and hand made by individual craftsmen. Like say, old mechanical watches. Oh hell yeah let's go pre-Napoleon. RETVRN Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 09:58 on Dec 12, 2023 |
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Orange Devil posted:Oh hell yeah let's go pre-Napoleon. RETVRN I long for a world where every push is determined by the synchronicity of a hand wound gold watch that may or may not be accurate to the minute. But by golly it's tucked into a fine silk waistocat. Huzzah!
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1733811831406547079 It's that Italian spaag that was extremely op when it first came out in war thunder!
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Thanks for the appreciation guyse. thanks. i was asking that question as a rhetorical thrust to say that the emergence of the ideology is a result of the material circumstances of rewarding the dividends of capital as opposed to the production power of labour. it's really good to have the theoretical refences of the OGs with respect to it
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crepeface posted:thanks. i was asking that question as a rhetorical thrust to say that the emergence of the ideology is a result of the material circumstances of rewarding the dividends of capital as opposed to the production power of labour. there’s a math part of the answer that’s alluded to in that post too. basically, you can borrow money at x% interest right? if you can invest that borrowed money and return more than x%, then you can boost your return to shareholders to higher levels than it would be if you just did an investment without borrowing money. and in fact there’s a strong financial incentive for everyone to do so. everything seems great until your investment profit rate drops below the interest rate
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here ff enjoy a pic of some communist artillery men being fancy lads https://twitter.com/carlzha/status/1734545790193095076?s=61&t=ekRyXxBjaNIALwWgK2O6xQ
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Slavvy posted:Tbh I'm trying to work out what purpose a 76mm AAA would actually serve? Someone finally read my emails and policy notes. It's needs to be 94mm for poetic reasons though. Added benefits are that choice facilitates one (1) extra regimental dinner per year, celebrating the siege of the Channel Ports. RHQ and DND can invite a Czech delegation for some international goodwill, photo ops, and Czech food and beer at the dinner, which is good for morale. Raskolnikov38 posted:here ff enjoy a pic of some communist artillery men being fancy lads Do you think the whitewall tyres are the same as the standard tyres but with appliqué, or do they have a production line and supply chain for whitewalls? Trying to imagine that capacity existing in the west. Those are captured American guns firing the salute, btw. I don't know if anyone caught that, 105mm M2A1s. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 15:15 on Dec 12, 2023 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Those are captured American guns firing the salute, btw. I don't know if anyone caught that, 105mm M2A1s. and here i thought that i couldn't like vietnam any more than i already do
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gradenko_2000 posted:wouldn't AAA be well-suited for shooting at drones? sure, but what would we do with the frickin' anti-drone lasers we've been cooking up?
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Eat This Glob posted:sure, but what would we do with the frickin' anti-drone lasers we've been cooking up? Science fiction has ruined America’s brains. Not even a specific work. Just the concept has untethered something.
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Cerebral Bore posted:and here i thought that i couldn't like vietnam any more than i already do Vietnam got tired of all the winning.
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Slavvy posted:Tbh I'm trying to work out what purpose a 76mm AAA would actually serve? Besides drones, I'm sure it'll gently caress up a helicopter or an A-10 pretty well
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Thread full of gamers and no one remembers how much the OTOmatic hosed things up in Warthunder and Wargame Red Dragon.
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Frosted Flake posted:Those are captured American guns firing the salute, btw. I don't know if anyone caught that, 105mm M2A1s. lol that owns.
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Regarde Aduck posted:germany was the heart of europes arms industries and also the country that got deindustrialised this year I must say, Europe being colonialized by the United States is nothing if not funny
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Frosted Flake posted:Those are captured American guns firing the salute, btw. I don't know if anyone caught that, 105mm M2A1s. 
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Regarde Aduck posted:germany was the heart of europes arms industries and also the country that got deindustrialised this year europe is just transitioning to a fictitious economy like the us. that's the end point for any core state.
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PhilippAchtel posted:I must say, Europe being colonialized by the United States is nothing if not funny it’s completely wild how they’re (almost) all just going along with it. I know the left is dead but my god.
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PhilippAchtel posted:I must say, Europe being colonialized by the United States is nothing if not funny China was right there, man 
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Best Friends posted:it’s completely wild how they’re (almost) all just going along with it. I know the left is dead but my god. i mean i think its an open secret at this point that Ursula von Der Leyen is a US plant but that doesn't explain why everyone around her is just following. I guess at some point 'rationality' requires that someone, somewhere, in the chain goes 'wait a minute' and they're just not.
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Regarde Aduck posted:i mean i think its an open secret at this point that Ursula von Der Leyen is a US plant but that doesn't explain why everyone around her is just following. I guess at some point 'rationality' requires that someone, somewhere, in the chain goes 'wait a minute' and they're just not. Everyone around her attended the same classes and had the same employment experience and read the same writings. Shaking it off requires someone to be a complete weirdo who does something like read Marx instead of the blob of credentialed, expert neoliberals riding on the wave of the end of history.
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Orange Devil posted:If you want this exact thing worded in a funnier way, watch this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo the early SV seasons are way too real
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