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AlternateNu posted:Dirac live setup was pretty painless. Sounds loving awesome. Discovered one weird quirk with Pioneer AVRs. If your front L/Rs are powerful enough/cover enough range, it'll automatically shift all the bass to them, leaving the sub to languish. You actually have to go into the hardware settings and change your front speakers to "Small" for it to engage the sub. My Denon did the same, set the fronts to large and the crossover to 40Hz. With 6.5" woofer bookshelf speakers.
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KozmoNaut posted:My Denon did the same, set the fronts to large and the crossover to 40Hz. Pioneers only go down to 50Hz for crossover. But that works so long as you toggle on "Double Bass". Thanks for the tip.
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Yeah the assumption for whatever reason is that if your speakers are capable don’t send their bass to the sub Most people don’t like that but there’s arguments for both- do what sounds best to you Don’t do double bass though
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I changed it to large and 80Hz manually afterwards, the measurements were probably a bit confused by the speakers and the measurement position being close to opposite walls. It certainly sounds better set to large and 80Hz, for sure.
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Dogen posted:Don’t do double bass though Any particular reason?
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It has a strong tendency to cause some interference in those frequencies but yknow again do what sounds best to you, but generally if that setting seems to sound better it’s likely that you need to work on setting up your sub a little more (placement or channel level). Another theory is that the sub takes some load off your woofers once the crossover is hit allowing them to perform better at other frequencies because those low frequencies are much harder for a woofer to produce but I don’t know how much there is to that (I mean yes it is harder for them to produce, but does it improve the rest of their production to pull those frequencies? I dunno.) Dogen fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Dec 2, 2023 |
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DMP-A6 vs. Geshelli J2S maxed out with a WiiM Pro? Would the sound quality edge out the flashiness of the screen?
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Hi thread. For the first time in my life I have a TV worth a drat. I’d like to pair it with some better sound now, and could use some guidance. A few notes: I’m mostly thinking soundbar here. I’m in a small apartment. The living room area is maybe 10 ft from TV wall to couch wall, and about ~13 feet in terms of space people are going to sit (it opens up into the rest of the floor plan, but that space isn’t a stereo/surround consideration). I think I’d like Atmos support? Seems like that’d be fun to take advantage of in a small-ish space. That said, I’m mostly thinking 3.1 over 5.1, as I don’t really have the ability to mount rear satellites anywhere useful for now. Expandability to add sat’s later is a Nice to Have, but not really meaningful for me. HDMI pass through is a must for me; I’m currently running 4 HDMI devices as is (Switch/XBox/PS/Apple TV) - and obviously will want the soundbar on eARC; that said, the switch can’t do any fancy stuff so I don’t need the HDMI pass through to handle any of the crazy VRR poo poo that’s out there or whatever. (I was all ready to pull the trigger on the Wirecutter rec Polk Magnifi Mini before this shortcoming became apparent.) The other big Nice to Have is Bluetooth support for streaming music - but I can always just route stuff through my TV I guess. I have an LG TV, so I know their soundbars can do various shenanigans to sync better with the tv, but I also know that none of those features should be a particularly big deal. I guess it’s a tiebreaker feature for me along with expandability? All that said, I’m not looking for blow me away sound - just an upgrade over anemic TV speakers. My budget is up to 500 if there’s really no cheaper options, but I’d strongly prefer to keep it closet to 3 bills if I can. Any suggestions?
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Chevy Slyme posted:Hi thread. We hate soundbars! Is this a house or apartment? Can you hear your neighbors? Can you draw a picture of your layout?
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LRADIKAL posted:We hate soundbars! Half assed notes app sketch:  Wall to wall it’s about 10 feet across - sitting on the couch facing the TV, my viewing distance is about 7.5 feet. The whole space before the open up is about 12 feet long. It’s an apartment. And yeah, I can hear my neighbors occasionally, (though, more up/down than the other side of the wall), so don’t want to get too loud.
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I'm going to talk off the cuff since I feel like it. Take it all with a grain of salt. Also this'll be a bit disjointed and random! Saturday night COVID recover with beer! A subwoofer might not be great in an apartment, which is maybe a point for a sound bar. Since you suggested atmos, I'll assume you're a movie watcher, in which case, you might want to thank about room treatment. A curtain to divide the room from the rest of the place, and a matching curtain on the right wall (or some tasteful decorative acoustic panels). I bet someone can reccomend you some real nice large bookshelf speakers or very medium sized tower speakers for either side. Such a setup could incorporate a center channel and a some rear speakers, but honestly you'd probably be good with a straight up stereo system: Stereo amplifier hanging off of the tv via RCA/headphone or optical. This powers two very nice floor standing or bookshelf speakers. The room treatment will actually make the environment very cozy and efficient and you can play things fairly loud without vibrating your apt with a subwoofer. You might also consider mounting some nice bookshelf speakers from the wall depending on lease/your own spackeling ability.
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Bunk Rogers posted:DMP-A6 vs. Geshelli J2S maxed out with a WiiM Pro? Almost certainly not.
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Update: I did it. No idea what to do with a $1000 soundbar with dying visual inputs but hey, at least I’ll have much better equipment that’ll scale to 8k and let me plug in more than two HDMI inputs.
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$1000 soundbar... dang, that would be a really good stereo system.
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I got it for $500 off some deal site. It could simulate 5.1.2 and actually had a subwoofer so it sounded good, but it never could quite handle eARC (would randomly drop video and require unplugging/re-plugging to fix, even after switching cables and devices) and it didn’t have a sync fixer so using it as an output made sound sync a huge problem. I’m pretty sure the video drop is due to it being relatively new when 4K VRR started being a thing but sometimes it just farts out anyway. Either way I don’t wanna sell it to someone in this condition so outside of turning it into a very large chromecast stereo I’m at a loss.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B9QF1L4K/?th=1 https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR3100-5-2-Channel-Receiver/dp/B0CCYWQ2B7/ Or https://www.amazon.com/YAMAHA-RX-V4A-5-2-Channel-Receiver-MusicCast/dp/B08CKGYLNS/ Any thoughts? Crossposting from quick question thread: Jaxyon posted:I have a 15+ yo Yamaha HTR-5730. It's been in storage for a few years. The speaker system is 5.1. It's a relatively small living room so I have no current interest in adding two additional speakers for 7.1. I only have one source that I use regularly so I don't need gobs of HDMI 2.1 connections, 4 is enough. Am I missing anything? Only the Onkyo has Atmos. Is that worth it? Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Dec 4, 2023 |
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Atmos is only worth it if you have the special speakers for it, and you plan to watch a lot of content that supports it on a format that supports it. Which is reasonably possible! But it’s kind of a narrow window of people probably.
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Dogen posted:Atmos is only worth it if you have the special speakers for it, and you plan to watch a lot of content that supports it on a format that supports it. Which is reasonably possible! But it’s kind of a narrow window of people probably. Thank you! That was unclear, and steers me at the Yamaha. Also it has a big rear end dial. But also it has a lot of wifi support the Denon doesn't. My 20yo speakers are certainly not Atmos capable and if I need to replace speakers that's a much bigger spend that I'm unwilling to do at this time.
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Well I mean like, it’s two more speakers, you can do separates though some towers include them. They’re either up firing to bounce off the ceiling or mounted high on the wall direct firing (front, optional rears I think?)
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Dogen posted:Well I mean like, it’s two more speakers, you can do separates though some towers include them. They’re either up firing to bounce off the ceiling or mounted high on the wall direct firing (front, optional rears I think?) Oh....if I can just add in later, my streaming services all seem to have atmos, I might pick up some extra satellites at a later date. I thought you meant some sort of specific speaker tech.
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Jaxyon posted:Oh....if I can just add in later, my streaming services all seem to have atmos, I might pick up some extra satellites at a later date. I thought you meant some sort of specific speaker tech. Nah the tech part is all in the receiver, just gotta hook em up to the appropriate speaker outs I think you can do like in ceiling ones as well Dogen fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Dec 4, 2023 |
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I run 7.1 Atmos and don't have a single special Atmos speaker. I just have a pair of small Polk satellite speakers tilted upwards on top of my front speakers. My wife and I did a blind A+B test with them because she wasn't convinced it would do anything, but we both noticed it made a nice impact on stuff with good mixing for overheads like windy scenes outside, stuff flying overhead in a scene, etc. heck even the Dolby Surround up mixing grabs stuff like winds and helicopters and does a decent job matrixing them to the upper channels. I definitely prefer it to just basic 7.1.
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If I'm not mistaken that Onkyo only has a 5.1 setup, where you can either have atmos or surrounds.
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This is a very dumb question but I haven’t had a receiver in like 15 years. I’m gonna have a 2.1 system but everything is mixed for Atmos or 5.1 nowadays. The receiver just handles the difference, right?
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If I recall Dolby Atmos and 7.1 TrueHD mixes have a Dolby Digital 5.1 mix encoded within to cater for hardware that can't decode/transmit 8ch uncompressed audio. Would not be surprised if they had a stereo/2ch mix in there also, but if not almost anything that can decode DD5.1 is also capable of downmixing to stereo. As for the sub, just make sure your receiver is set up to pump low frequencies through it from a stereo source, rather than just a dedicated LFE channel, as there's no guarantee the downmix will include that. Playing music is the easiest way to test this.
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Oryp posted:If I'm not mistaken that Onkyo only has a 5.1 setup, where you can either have atmos or surrounds. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HFN8T64/ might be the better pick for me in that case
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Definitely peruse A4L, it's goon approved and has great deals on gently used/refurbished gear https://www.accessories4less.com/
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Seems like a good choice for your requirements. I haven't heard anything bad about the S660H. Thanks again! Once I got all the settings right (which was pretty easy) it all works better than I ever thought it would.
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Mederlock posted:Definitely peruse A4L, it's goon approved and has great deals on gently used/refurbished gear Oh that's nice. Thanks!
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Geemer posted:Thanks again! Once I got all the settings right (which was pretty easy) it all works better than I ever thought it would. I picked one up a 660H this weekend too, replacing an older 3xx series Yamaha with no 4k60 or eARC support. Audyssey is definitely a step up from the YPAO room calibration. I'm happier with the sound even on DD5.1 sources, and getting 6ch pcm out of the Xbox vs compressed Dolby Digital via ARC is definitely a noticeable improvement. Have had some issues with my Chromecast GTV not playing nice (messed up video signal), so I've popped that back into the tv, but this seems to be causing some wack behaviour with CEC, so I probably need to go through the settings on everything again. TV doesn't seem to want to turn off with the AVR remote, and sometimes the input changes back to the GTV when it shouldn't. Getting the Google TV working properly with it seems like the best solution. It works fine straight into the TV so any advice would be appreciated.
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Don Dongington posted:TV doesn't seem to want to turn off with the AVR remote, and sometimes the input changes back to the GTV when it shouldn't. Getting the Google TV working properly with it seems like the best solution. It works fine straight into the TV so any advice would be appreciated. I had some CEC gremlins as well, but they seem to have calmed down once I told the receiver to ignore the command to switch to TV audio, and I also ended up power cycling the entire setup while cable managing. I got my Chromecast + GTV connected straight to the AVR and it hasn't misbehaved so far, except one time right after the aforementioned power cycling, where it made the signal switch to it once it booted up. I barely use it, though, so I'm really not the right person to ask. I can't get it to turn off the TV with the AVR remote either, but it does work the other way around where the AVR turns on and off when I use my cable box/normal TV/bluray player remote.
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Got everything hooked up today. Banana cables rule. Thanks everyone for your help. The bigger subwoofer really makes an impact and I actually kinda like just having stereo up front rather than the soundbar trying to make 5.1.2 happen all on one unit.
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Also not sure if this is the best place to talk about it but finally got tired of having four remotes and CEC being CEC, so I picked up a Sofabaton X1. Took me about an hour to get everything connected and programmed but it seems to be working pretty well so far. The internet made this thing sound like a complete piece of poo poo but I can control everything with it and made macros to switch between inputs and even auto start Plex on my shield. My setup is pretty simple - Apple TV for pretty much everything streaming and a Shield for Plex. I usually just pipe music through Apple TV or Plex so I didn’t bother with a macro for getting the receiver to do its Heos thing. The button mapping doesn’t have what I’d call Apple-level UX but I’ve worked with way less intuitive devices. I do think getting one of those massive cable company remotes set up would be a nightmare though. The biggest bummer is it uses Bluetooth rather than RF, but I also don’t know if that’s something they decided or if it’s a limitation of the devices it connects to. I never had a Logitech harmony so maybe I’m just ignorant to what these things should be but I have all my other remotes in a drawer now.
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They screwed up and sent me black instead of white, probably going to return them. 
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Bruv put a shirt on
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NSFW tits in the home audio thread? You're beautiful, girl!
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Well, I was going to post pictures of my speakers, but now I'm feeling self conscious.
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Nice cones.
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The truth is funnier than my fiction in this case: that picture is in user reviews on best buys website. I’m still waiting for my speakers, worried that the sale sold so many that I’m not going to get them before Christmas in which case the order will be cancelled. If that happens I’m going to go to BB and try and talk them into giving me the same discount on something in stock locally. Probably won’t do it but worth a shot.
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bird with big dick posted:The truth is funnier than my fiction in this case: that picture is in user reviews on best buys website. Mhmm
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