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Diet Crack posted:"UK economy shrinks unexpectedly as households feel squeeze Well they were hoping real hard and prepared to nudge the dial a little bit.
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Dec 13, 2023 09:30
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I think they mean everyone expected it to fall a lot lower
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Dec 13, 2023 09:35
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They were probably hoping we'd benefit a bit from the US economy doing well* on many measures * Obviously there are big caveats here but they are growing their GDP pretty fast right now so I could understand if some people were hoping we'd benefit on those same indicators, regardless of whether it makes a blind bit of difference for many of us
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Dec 13, 2023 09:38
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Ms Adequate posted:They were probably hoping we'd benefit a bit from the US economy doing well* on many measures Copying someone else's homework at the last second with a hosed pen and a poo poo exercise book and wondering why your mark is lower
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Dec 13, 2023 09:40
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quote:The figures come as the Bank of England prepares to keep interest rates on hold on Thursday for a third consecutive time against a backdrop of stubbornly high inflation and growing concerns over the impact of 14 previous increases on households and businesses. Hmmmmmmm MAYBE the problem wasn't people having too much money after all!
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Dec 13, 2023 10:00
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Things could be worse. At least we aren't Argentinian. They just devalued their peso by over 50%
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Dec 13, 2023 10:13
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Diet Crack posted:"UK economy shrinks unexpectedly as households feel squeeze They predicted 0% growth. They got -0.3%. So it's unexpected.
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Dec 13, 2023 10:17
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If people are spending every penny on rent, food and energy bills, then obviously they've got nothing left to spend on anything else. I wonder how much these clever economists get paid to pretend that they don't understand this, I'd like that job.
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Dec 13, 2023 10:18
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fuctifino posted:Things could be worse. At least we aren't Argentinian. They just devalued their peso by over 50% You say this, but we're probably only one focus group away from either Starmer or Sunak declaring that a round of economic shock therapy is exactly the kind of decisive leadership the UK needs to get back on its feet.
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Dec 13, 2023 10:32
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Well that's not all people. There are plenty of people who are still living very well. It only needs to be not too many people to not stop the growth train. Alas the Tories slightly miscalculated how many people they could not care about.
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Dec 13, 2023 10:33
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local hairdressers just sent us a fifteen quid voucher for xmas that's a whole 50% more help with the festive period than the dwp are giving!
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Dec 13, 2023 10:49
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Ms Adequate posted:Hardly fair, plenty of them can perceive the Lib Dems! i'm pretty sure most lib dems can't perceive the lib dems
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Dec 13, 2023 10:50
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grobbo posted:You say this, but we're probably only one focus group away from either Starmer or Sunak declaring that a round of economic shock therapy is exactly the kind of decisive leadership the UK needs to get back on its feet. Our political parties would never be that crazy quote:"He campaigned on promises of major spending cuts" Ah,
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Dec 13, 2023 10:54
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DesperateDan posted:local hairdressers just sent us a fifteen quid voucher for xmas Haircut so bad that the hairdressers are offering pro bono work
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Dec 13, 2023 11:04
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Failed Imagineer posted:Haircut so bad that the hairdressers are offering pro bono work naw it's the posh place I took my eldest to for a special treat/gender affirming haircare so the fifteen quid towards a cut isn't all that much off the total credit where it's due, my genetic tendency towards "how loving much?" over the price was tempered entirely by how well it turned out/how much the kid liked it
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Dec 13, 2023 11:12
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That's sweet
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Dec 13, 2023 11:14
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How much was it?
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Dec 13, 2023 12:02
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DesperateDan posted:that's a whole 50% more help with the festive period than the dwp are giving! The £10 DWP Christmas bonus hasn't gone up since it was introduced in 1972. It was meant to ensure that people on benefits were able to afford a good Christmas day. If that bonus had risen in line with inflation, it would be £113.18 today... however....  
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Dec 13, 2023 12:15
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Mark Drakeford has resigned.
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Dec 13, 2023 12:43
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Who
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Dec 13, 2023 12:48
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The only socialist in any position of power in the UK.
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Dec 13, 2023 12:53
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keep punching joe posted:Mark Drakeford has resigned. He always said he was stepping down in 24 Its a shame, he's a good lad as far as political leaders go
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Dec 13, 2023 12:56
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he said before he was going to step back iirc? he's like 70 so no surprise tbh
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Dec 13, 2023 12:57
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Wachter posted:Copying someone else's homework at the last second with a hosed pen and a poo poo exercise book and wondering why your mark is lower E: and then insisting the woke left sabotaged the test because A was definitely the right answer.
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Dec 13, 2023 13:03
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Diet Crack posted:"UK economy shrinks unexpectedly as households feel squeeze
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Dec 13, 2023 13:03
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Mega Comrade posted:They predicted 0% growth. They got -0.3%. I think people are aware what the numbers mean, they just think it's stupid that there'd be anything but contraction in this dogshit economy LOL most people still haven't really recovered from 2007/8
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Dec 13, 2023 13:34
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Mark Drakeford was a good lad and did good stuff. He oversaw the handling of the pandemic in Wales and surprise surprise the socialist didn't do the mass murder the tories managed in England.
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Dec 13, 2023 13:42
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forkboy84 posted:LOL most people still haven't really recovered from 2007/8 The people that matter have done very well 
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Dec 13, 2023 13:42
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Tesseraction posted:Mark Drakeford was a good lad and did good stuff. He oversaw the handling of the pandemic in Wales and surprise surprise the socialist didn't do the mass murder the tories managed in England. What are you basing that on? I'm only on my phone but stats seem to show the death rate per 100k was worse in Wales than England with 248.1 deaths per 100,000 people versus 229.9 in England. Adjusted for Wales's comparatively older population (I dunno how they've done that exactly ) gives: England - 217.1 deaths per 100,000 people Wales - 212.4 Which doesn't seem hugely different? Scotland and Northern Ireland were much better.
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Dec 13, 2023 14:15
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forkboy84 posted:I think people are aware what the numbers mean, they just think it's stupid that there'd be anything but contraction in this dogshit economy Most people recovered by 2018. Just COVID was so soon after that many people probably didn't feel it.
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Dec 13, 2023 14:16
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Tesseraction posted:Mark Drakeford was a good lad and did good stuff. He oversaw the handling of the pandemic in Wales and surprise surprise the socialist didn't do the mass murder the tories managed in England. He oversaw the introduction of the 20mph speed limit, which makes him super-Satan, world destroyer, harbinger of the end times.
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Dec 13, 2023 14:16
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OzyMandrill posted:He oversaw the introduction of the 20mph speed limit, which makes him super-Satan, world destroyer, harbinger of the end times. Whoever comes in next will probably walk back on that.
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Dec 13, 2023 14:18
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NotJustANumber99 posted:What are you basing that on? Wales is the most chronically underfunded of the four lands of this United K, at least since May had to go hat in hand to the DUP, although I guess Norn Iron is in deep poo poo due to lack of home rule atm starting to think this country is bad folx
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Dec 13, 2023 14:20
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PriorMarcus posted:Whoever comes in next will probably walk back on that. No way are they walking at 20mph
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Dec 13, 2023 14:20
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Failed Imagineer posted:No way are they walking at 20mph Legit made me giggle at work.
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Dec 13, 2023 14:22
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Find a steep enough incline and you can do it. In my youthful idiocy I learned how quickly running down a steep hill can increase your speed uncontrollably. The fact I just ended up with my feet burning with friction was testament to how goddamn lucky I was not to trip.
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Dec 13, 2023 14:23
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Ms Adequate posted:Promising you will be no better or different than the other team is a pretty unique strategy, at least. Normally they would at least SAY they're going to do good things and then we'd have to argue about whether they're telling the truth and whether the differences are big enough if so. Not this time baybee! It makes sense when you look at voting history and see that the tories always get the vote from the same 30% odd of the country that give them just enough block clout to always win in a FPTP voting system. Dent that and no more tories winning. Take it completely and no more need to worry about the tories or getting votes from the other 70% of the country (because you are the new tories).
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Dec 13, 2023 14:24
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Dec 13, 2023 14:25
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Just been sorting out "Christmas Boxes" for our flats cleaners and handyman and wondering why they're called "Christmas Boxes" when 3 of them are £30 in an envelope and one of them is a £30 bank transfer. I remember Real Bin Men at Christmas - no complaining, merry whistling while lifting 60kg of smelly rubbish on their shoulders, largest binman on earth knocking on the door at Christmas, strewing rubbish all down the garden path if the Christmas Box wasn't large enough....
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Dec 13, 2023 14:36
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Tesseraction posted:Wales is the most chronically underfunded of the four lands of this United K, at least since May had to go hat in hand to the DUP, although I guess Norn Iron is in deep poo poo due to lack of home rule atm Since I started going over there for work I can honestly say NI feels way behind rUK in terms of infrastructure and investment. Not having a functional devolved government obviously doesn't help but you can absolutely see the place is basically forgotten by Westminster and there is barely any money going into vital services. Once you get outside of Belfast the public transport is unreliable and feels like it's from the 70s - even getting the bus to the airport involved the thing breaking down on the middle of the motorway and all the passengers having to shuffle up the hard shoulder to a replacement half an hour later. The driver said this was apparently a common thing because the fleet's engines had been replaced with cheapo ones that can't handle the incline going out of the city. I've also never seen so many people visibly high as a kite in the city centre, one guy just standing motionless staring at a wall blinking for example, and so many fights all the time amongst the homeless people and various addicts. You get that everywhere in the UK ofc but it seemed off the scale. There's obviously some real failures in the support networks that are meant to help these people. Idk if Wales is also like this because I've only really been to the rural bits and through Cardiff once, but I'd be very surprised if it was on the same level. One of the major problems of course is that without Stormont sitting the place is governed by civil servants essentially and no new budgets can be approved, so no matter how much money the DUP blagged it doesn't really matter. I'm not saying any of this to attack NI. There's some cool stuff there and most of the people I've met have been very sound, but they seriously do deserve better. It's shocking how badly run it feels in places.
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