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as i have been saying from the beginning since i already knew ten hag from the eredivisie: he really is a dull simpleton who is in no way elite manager material.
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Nuclear Spoon posted:appendix: based on his public defense of overmars and keeping antony in the squad i think he's a wrongun yep
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Dec 14, 2023 21:16
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was there ever any suggestion antony was more than a flat track bully, because he turned out exactly how i thought he would
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he starts for brazil ahead of richard arlison, the most damning of faint praise from south america's sixth best team
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nawilo_420 posted:as i have been saying from the beginning since i already knew ten hag from the eredivisie: he really is a dull simpleton who is in no way elite manager material. He’s really a what?? Dsyp
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Dec 14, 2023 21:37
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Ulio posted:Honestly I still don't get Ten Hag out. He has won the carbao cup, made the fa cup final, finished 3rd last season. He is currently higher in the league than Eddie Howe but Eddie Howe is considered a genius. Newcastle also finished bottom of their group, of course it was a harder group but I feel like Onana really by himself ruined their UCL run. How can we blame Ten Hag for buying the UCL goal keeper of the year and then the guy turns out to completely choke out of his mind? I hope he stays there forever.
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Manchester United have now had eight different managers be trash after Ferguson left so the problem is obviously isn’t the manager, and I have really no way to tell if Ten Hag is contributing to the problem. They desperately need competent upper management like a DoF, and I don’t even see the point of getting a new manager until that happens.
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There's no-one I have more faith in than Ten Haag for the United role right now. Unless Lampard is free, perhaps. Give him a ten year deal and let him spend the next five years transfer funds in the January window.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:but yes I did a little lol at all the Brave Plucky Toon Underdogs articles despite them also finishing last and getting beaten at home by a team whose best midfielder Newcastle bought for 70m yeah Newcastle's and man united's cl groups were basically the same. ten hag in
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Like with Moyes, ten hag will have a job until it is mathematically impossible for man united to qualify for europe and not before
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Dec 15, 2023 10:21
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Arteta had problems turning the squad over a year or so into the job with people calling him clueless and out of his depth etc. Arsenal stuck with him as he’d convinced them of his long term plan and here we are. I’m not at all convinced by Ten Hag but last season’s results should be buying him at least another season to sort things out longer term.
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L.H.O.O.Q. posted:Arteta had problems turning the squad over a year or so into the job with people calling him clueless and out of his depth etc. this is just the mentality of a person who would sell the club for five billion and not six billion
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L.H.O.O.Q. posted:Arteta had problems turning the squad over a year or so into the job with people calling him clueless and out of his depth etc. The other lucky piece is he had Edu on his side, who both understood the club (both played at Wenger at different times) and were aligned on needing to clear out the dead wood. (Remember everyone laughing at Arsenal not putting Ozil in the Premier League squad and paying so many people to gently caress off? Looks like that’s gone pretty well, eh?) So if the Kroenkes were ever asking why they should keep Arteta around, they not only had Arteta making his own case but Edu probably backing him as well. If it’s true that nothing’s going to happen until Radcliffe gets involved, it could help Ten Hag out to give him a Director of Football…or they may want their own guy to start the turnover and to give that person the time and support.
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It definitely seems like the way that modern football is evolving is such that the people above the manager are becoming much more important. It doesn’t seem to be a coincidence that noted good managers Arsene Wenger and Unai Emery struggled under grifters like Gazidis, Mislentat, and Sanllehi.
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Ulio posted:Honestly I still don't get Ten Hag out. He has won the carbao cup, made the fa cup final, finished 3rd last season. He is currently higher in the league than Eddie Howe but Eddie Howe is considered a genius. Newcastle also finished bottom of their group, of course it was a harder group but I feel like Onana really by himself ruined their UCL run. How can we blame Ten Hag for buying the UCL goal keeper of the year and then the guy turns out to completely choke out of his mind? Man United seem to win quite a lot but then lose horrendously and its back to crisis time. Losing to Bayern 1-0 isn't that bad all things considered to be honest. The Chelsea comparison is amusing because Poch is getting away with it because the decision is made that they suck because the owners are stupid. Manchester United however are doing better, have spent less money (maybe) - but unless they are in a title chase it's a crisis. If they were bottom half of the table I would get it, but they're not. Obviously most players they sign are bad, but that's Chelsea as well
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blue footed boobie posted:It definitely seems like the way that modern football is evolving is such that the people above the manager are becoming much more important. It doesn’t seem to be a coincidence that noted good managers Arsene Wenger and Unai Emery struggled under grifters like Gazidis, Mislentat, and Sanllehi. Mislintat wasn't a grifter, he was a victim of Sanllehi just like Emery
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blue footed boobie posted:It definitely seems like the way that modern football is evolving is such that the people above the manager are becoming much more important. It doesn’t seem to be a coincidence that noted good managers Arsene Wenger and Unai Emery struggled under grifters like Gazidis, Mislentat, and Sanllehi. David Gill leaving United the same time Fergie left was significantly more detrimental to the club in the long term.
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I defended Ten Hag but he will get sacked if he gets humiliated again at Anfield. But hey it's only Onana in goal, if De Gea conceded 7, Onana can maybe bring the number to double digit.
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Ulio posted:I defended Ten Hag but he will get sacked if he gets humiliated again at Anfield. Inshallah
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the sex ghost posted:Like with Moyes, ten hag will have a job until it is mathematically impossible for man united to qualify for europe and not before I think the only way he goes in the immediate future is if he loses the dressing room (the actual one, not just whoever had to bring the cones in that week) unsourced clickbait press reports now linking graham "the pott" potter with the job, which I'm sure would go brilliantly
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Dec 15, 2023 19:49
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Hi Graham instead of sitting on the beach counting your money and waiting to get the England job would you like a drink from this perfectly normal chalice
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He got a taste for it from Chelsea, one sip from the Utd one and it's reasonable to declare him an addict
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just look at pochettino going from normal club psg to also normal club chelsea
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wicka posted:Mislintat wasn't a grifter, he was a victim of Sanllehi just like Emery Yeah, Mislintat has his recruiting strengths but absolutely lost a political battle at Arsenal. Gazidis was a suit who kept the commercial deals going, Wenger was essentially his own DoF (for better and worse) which is why they tried to setup a structure for when he left. And then Sanllehi elbowed his way into more control before flying too close to the sun (€72 million Nicolas Pepe).
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Emery: I would like a left winger with Premier League experience Sanllehi: Best I can do is the exact opposite of that
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ppl want ten hag out because their current position is legitimately an overperformance for how they've been playing, they're bad. i want him to stay though and be given more time and more billions to spend on guys he knew from ajax.
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tbp posted:ppl want ten hag out because their current position is legitimately an overperformance for how they've been playing, they're bad. i want him to stay though and be given more time and more billions to spend on guys he knew from ajax.
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Well I’m sure after today all that talk will be put to bed
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wicka posted:Emery: I would like a left winger with Premier League experience With a side of shady financials. Allegedly.
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Hope Tom Locker is doing alright Scary moment
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He's collapsed twice since he had heart surgery and was told everything was fine, hasn't he? You have to be seriously thinking about stopping.
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Must be one of those things where you feel fine so you think you're clear but then suddenly it hits you out of nowhere.
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Thanks Ants posted:He's collapsed twice since he had heart surgery and was told everything was fine, hasn't he? You have to be seriously thinking about stopping. Just to clarify as a Luton supporter, the incident during the play-off final was the only previous time he’s collapsed. He was diagnosed with an atrial flutter (basically fancy language for an irregular heartbeat), supposedly a relatively minor issue and an easy fix. He had an operation and was given the all-clear to continue playing by his doctors. Since then he’s been fine and back to his best. Today he’s suffered cardiac arrest, so far more serious and life-threatening. Thankfully it sounds like the quick response of both medical teams (and Philip Billing who was straight over to him) has saved his life. He was responsive coming off the pitch and is now stable in hospital with his family.
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Thanks Ants posted:He's collapsed twice since he had heart surgery and was told everything was fine, hasn't he? You have to be seriously thinking about stopping. I’d probably be happy to follow my doctors advice when they tell me I’m safe to make a boatload of money playing soccer tbh.
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If you're a footballer and your doctor says you're fine to play then you play, I'm not putting this on him at all. But I'd expect that this changes now, which is a shame, but it could have been a lot worse.
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https://twitter.com/CiaranKelly__/status/1736070820416442399 Enjoyed this. Also very pleased for Lewis Miley, it's always exciting when a young lad comes in and smashes it, and he seems a lovely lad too.
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great post mesut. how's your man recep doing these days
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Ozil is just an open neo-fascist these days
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