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Jedit posted:I'm not seeing the problem here. "-ize" is the US spelling. "-ise" is correct in English. This is actually a consequence of word processing software like Microsoft Word! Before modern spellcheck software, both -ise and -ize forms were considered acceptable in British English. What was important was that you stick to one or the other in the document, so you couldn't use them interchangeably, that would look sloppy. When the earliest spellcheck functions were introduced, instead of ensuring a uniform style, they used a simpler method: -ise usage was more common than -ize in British English, so they just marked -ise as "correct" and -ize as "wrong". And now decades later we've all decided that "-ize" is wrong, because some programmer in Redmond, Washington took a shortcut.
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Dec 15, 2023 13:30
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Like, give me a big bag of dried, chilli-salted insects and I'll happily stuff them down like Wotsits.
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Dec 15, 2023 13:31
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Pistol_Pete posted:Like, give me a big bag of dried, chilli-salted insects and I'll happily stuff them down like Wotsits. Same. It's just... moths.... how are moths getting in to the process of mixing up flour and sage and onion powder? Does the process happen outside under really bright fluorescent lights?
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Dec 15, 2023 13:36
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's odd that people'll get all squeamish about eating crickets or whatever but show them e.g. a southern Italian seafood dish with absolutely enormous shrimp that are all legs and wriggly antennae and they'll be delighted. I guess it's the classic hygiene-born taboo around any animals which are considered vermin or pests - i.e. if we lived in a Junji Ito's Gyo world and there were shrimp scuttling around the damp corners of our bedrooms at night or lurking in our attics, we'd probably be a lot less inclined to throw them on the barbie.
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Dec 15, 2023 13:36
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On a different note, the pro-Israeli propaganda in outlets like the Telegraph has become truly eye-popping. Like someone said on Twitter, nobody's buying their horseshit any more but all they know how to do is scream, so they're just screaming louder, and louder, and louder, 'cos that's always worked in the past.
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Dec 15, 2023 13:36
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Tedsville posted:Same. It's just... moths.... how are moths getting in to the process of mixing up flour and sage and onion powder? Does the process happen outside under really bright fluorescent lights? Now I'm thinking of a Far Side cartoon, with a lab-coated employee looking quizzically at a big machine with two red buttons on it, one labelled "Stuffing mix", the other labelled "Moths".
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Dec 15, 2023 13:38
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Moths have scales so papally speaking they're fish.
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Dec 15, 2023 13:47
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OwlFancier posted:Moths have scales so papally speaking they're fish. Going to my local seafood eatery and ordering up a big ol' plate of moths.
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Dec 15, 2023 13:52
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Jedit posted:Why was he using a Dictaphone? He had ten perfectly serviceable fingers, didn't he? Managers weren't expected to know how to type back in the day, is kind of the point. That was womens' work.
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Dec 15, 2023 13:55
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I used to hate those automated office tests I hate all automated tests because they're a bunch of lazy people screening bollocks often used by people who don't have the expertise to evaluate candidates properly. There's this online maths one that some companies have had me do in the past and I've failed them every time (despite having studied maths at university and spending the better part of a decade in a field where i study advertising numbers). The reason I failed them is because the sample question you're given doesn't quite reflect the contents of the actual test. When you start the actual test you're bombarded with graphs and charts and then given about 30 seconds to digest all of the info on it before then getting another 30 seconds to digest the question itself and work out the answer they want you to. It's usually something easy, like % change in sales from one year to the next or whatever, but the wording and delivery of the information are so clunky that it takes too long to decipher it. I've done loads of people management training since then and it turns out there;s nothing wrong with me, but I'm actually one of the types of people who take in info a little slower but give a much more detailed and considered response, often with a degree of expertise that provides more robust solutions to problems. But can't work out a % in 30 seconds? gently caress off, you're dead to us.
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Dec 15, 2023 14:02
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feedmegin posted:Managers weren't expected to know how to type back in the day, is kind of the point. That was womens' work. Which is odd because before it became "women's work", secretaries were often male (probably mostly before WW2) and being groomed for the management posts. And did typing.
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Dec 15, 2023 14:02
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Oh they were being groomed alright.
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Dec 15, 2023 14:04
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Tedsville posted:Same. It's just... moths.... how are moths getting in to the process of mixing up flour and sage and onion powder? Does the process happen outside under really bright fluorescent lights? Dead moths in the flour presumably
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Dec 15, 2023 14:06
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feedmegin posted:Managers weren't expected to know how to type back in the day, is kind of the point. That was womens' work. Likewise programming was for the womz until it suddenly became a Man Thing.
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Dec 15, 2023 14:08
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Tesseraction posted:Likewise programming was for the womz until it suddenly became a Man Thing. And in astronomy identifying / classifying stars https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/the-female-astronomers-who-captured-the-stars/ Nuclear & particle physics - identifying particle tracks in bubble chambers https://scienceblogs.com/weizmann/2014/09/02/the-women-who-made-the-science-possible And I'm sure everyone has at least heard of "Hidden figures" if not seen the film, about (African American) women who were literally known as computers and did many of the calculations necessary for space flight.
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Dec 15, 2023 14:20
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Tesseraction posted:Likewise programming was for the womz until it suddenly became a Man Thing. Yeah, 'Coder' was on a par with 'typist' at one point, not sure when the changeover happened.
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Dec 15, 2023 14:21
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Hey kid I'm a computer, stop all the downloading
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Dec 15, 2023 14:25
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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, 'Coder' was on a par with 'typist' at one point, not sure when the changeover happened. The moment it became a lucrative and high status career.
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Dec 15, 2023 14:25
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Probably around the time software started being something you sold, and therefore you set the price of your skills. Remember this was in the post-WW2 era where the economy wasn't just a boot stomping on your face
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Dec 15, 2023 14:26
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Kin posted:I hate all automated tests because they're a bunch of lazy people screening bollocks often used by people who don't have the expertise to evaluate candidates properly. I liked the bit in Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon (but not a lot else, bloody stephenson) about how the maths dude fails the navy's basic-functioning-human-being-maths-test and ends up with the slow kids in the band because one of the questions inspires him to instead write a publishable article on the answer sheet
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Dec 15, 2023 14:28
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Tedsville posted:Same. It's just... moths.... how are moths getting in to the process of mixing up flour and sage and onion powder? Does the process happen outside under really bright fluorescent lights? Pantry moths will eat anything. Very fond of porridge oats in my (horrid) experience
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Dec 15, 2023 14:30
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feedmegin posted:Managers weren't expected to know how to type back in the day, is kind of the point. That was womens' work. *sigh* I think that one slid past, probably because it was written down.
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Dec 15, 2023 14:32
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lol
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Dec 15, 2023 14:34
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Oh dear me posted:Pantry moths will eat anything. Very fond of porridge oats in my (horrid) experience I'm fortunate enough to have only experienced the ones that occasionally munch holes in your clothes.
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Dec 15, 2023 15:18
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grobbo posted:I guess it's the classic hygiene-born taboo around any animals which are considered vermin or pests - i.e. if we lived in a Junji Ito's Gyo world and there were shrimp scuttling around the damp corners of our bedrooms at night or lurking in our attics, we'd probably be a lot less inclined to throw them on the barbie. At least until you get to the "they want to turn us all vegan and make us eat bugs" people, who are just working their picky eating into a globalist conspiracy. Jedit posted:*sigh*
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Dec 15, 2023 15:51
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I find a larva on fresh veg, I'll just rinse it a bit more thoroughly. A snail on a mushroom in the forest, I'll just cut off the piece its snacking on. But a moth in my frozen Döner I probably wouldn't be too happy about
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Dec 15, 2023 15:58
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Not to get all European supremacist but I think ingredients should be more of a declaration than an aspiration
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Dec 15, 2023 16:00
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I think the thing that was missing from the moth stuffing story was how many moths. Maybe the stuffing was more moth than flour.
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Dec 15, 2023 16:03
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Microplastics posted:If only we had a train network to match theirs, eh? Oh I'd love to work on that network, I'm told they still do live line maintenance.
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Dec 15, 2023 16:11
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's odd that people'll get all squeamish about eating crickets or whatever but show them e.g. a southern Italian seafood dish with absolutely enormous shrimp that are all legs and wriggly antennae and they'll be delighted. Nah I get really grossed out by shrimp
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Dec 15, 2023 16:27
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's odd that people'll get all squeamish about eating crickets or whatever but show them e.g. a southern Italian seafood dish with absolutely enormous shrimp that are all legs and wriggly antennae and they'll be delighted. We have to get locusts for our bearded dragon, and I’m very often tempted to fry a few up and see what they’re like
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Dec 15, 2023 16:30
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bessantj posted:Oh I'd love to work on that network, I'm told they still do live line maintenance. 
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Dec 15, 2023 16:32
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Oxford spelling (also Oxford English Dictionary spelling, Oxford style, or Oxford English spelling) is a spelling standard, named after its use by the University of Oxford, that prescribes the use of British spelling in combination with the suffix -ize in words like realize and organization instead of -ise endings. I prefer -ize anyway; z should get more use. Re moths; I've had them in a bag of flour and they make it taste vile. We may be doomed to a bug-eating future but I'll avoid those thanks.
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Dec 15, 2023 16:35
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Runcible Cat posted:I prefer -ize anyway; z should get more use. There's a particular kind of moth that was hell to get rid of. We had to seal away all food items like flour, crisp bread and such or they would lay eggs in there. Took a year of consistent killing to get rid of them. They got into the house via some birdseed. So we don't bring that in anymore.
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Dec 15, 2023 16:40
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Runcible Cat posted:I prefer -ize anyway; z should get more use. I'm revoking your spelling lizense.
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Dec 15, 2023 16:40
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Lizense is a cross between incense and Liz Truss. You put it in a thurible and swing it about and it talks complete bollocks.
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Dec 15, 2023 16:43
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Their general track design is supposed to be better than ours as well. I've been told that their really old stuff that you get away from the big population centres can be worse than we have because they haven't upgraded it yet but working on the stuff around Tokyo would be really interesting.
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Dec 15, 2023 16:45
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His Divine Shadow posted:There's a particular kind of moth that was hell to get rid of. We had to seal away all food items like flour, crisp bread and such or they would lay eggs in there. Took a year of consistent killing to get rid of them. They got into the house via some birdseed. So we don't bring that in anymore. Ha exact same experience. Bloody moth maggots crawling across my ceiling. Bird seed lives in the shed now.
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Dec 15, 2023 16:59
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The thing about eating insects is that they’re fine. Nothing offensive if you don’t care about the idea of it. They’re just not as a nice as something like popcorn instead.
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Dec 15, 2023 17:21
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Guavanaut posted:Lizense is a cross between incense and Liz Truss. You put it in a thurible and swing it about and it talks complete bollocks. they had some at the christening I was at last week vicar was all "lettuce pray" ...I will see myself out
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