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andromache posted:It’s pretty safe in Delve/Querious/Period Basis from a deep safe. Cheers, I'll look some at dotlan and find a nice system and get to work.
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Boatswain posted:Cheers, I'll look some at dotlan and find a nice system and get to work. btw if you didnt already know make deepsafes by jumping into the abyss in something cheap <20 mins before dt, finish the site and sit in the last room until dt, it will shoot you out after dt and every so often you will get a good safe. bonus points if you do it with 3 frigates at once.
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Ragnar Gunvald posted:Vanguard really brought the crazies out into the discord. I don't normally do discord and can only imagine that the discord is an absolute shithole. Hey, try to talk like that in the “meat” world Lmao I want to visit this meat world
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ClCADA posted:Hey, try to talk like that in the “meat” world https://youtu.be/ZP7K9SycELA?si=Wl0ZCbG4p89fmHAR
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What's wrong in making 'deep safes' the old way using anomalies, wh or relic/data sites and running them or waiting for them to despawn?
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froody guy posted:What's wrong in making 'deep safes' the old way using anomalies, wh or relic/data sites and running them or waiting for them to despawn? Anomalies only spawn close to (4AU?) celestials, so impossible for it to create a deep safe. Still good for lazy safe I suppose.
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salartarium posted:The Chinese servers get all the cool skins CCP should make it a mandatory skin for every keepstar from now on.
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salartarium posted:The Chinese servers get all the cool skins Amazing lmao.
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salartarium posted:The Chinese servers get all the cool skins CCP wouldn’t dare give us this type of power. We are an unhinged community when it comes to creativity lmao
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Can't wait for the 1DQ- Goatse Mind Palace Keepstar
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Smegma Princess X posted:Can't wait for the 1DQ- Goatse Mind Palace Keepstar Omg, what is that Keepstar doing to its dock?
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salartarium posted:The Chinese servers get all the cool skins Macross crossover when
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inb4 someone undocks a pink avatar and starts "cosplaying"
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salartarium posted:The Chinese servers get all the cool skins This is why we fight...
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That Works posted:Macross crossover when Toilet eve already went as close as it could get without paying to call it "Macross": https://www.eveechoes.com/starbeat/ Actual eve is still too grimdark for it.
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froody guy posted:What's wrong in making 'deep safes' the old way using anomalies, wh or relic/data sites and running them or waiting for them to despawn? a deep safe is something more than 14.3 au (dscan range) from any celestial or gate or whatever, as said before all anomalies and signatures spawn within 4 au of a celestial, so people have used a variety of methods over the years to make deep safes.
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I thought deep safes were removed some time ago? We used to make them by rubber banding high mass iterons. I remember there being a dev blog and then my bookmarks that were 150-200au off were all removed.
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Elchimpster posted:I thought deep safes were removed some time ago? They removed the existing ones yes
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It was something like over a certain distance from the nearest celestial they were removed, to get rid of the ‘super’ deep safes, deep safes these days are less ridiculous and are allowed.
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Saithir posted:Toilet eve already went as close as it could get without paying to call it "Macross": https://www.eveechoes.com/starbeat/ I don't even watch anime but I'd pay a lot for these SKINs.
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floppyspud posted:a deep safe is something more than 14.3 au (dscan range) from any celestial or gate or whatever, as said before all anomalies and signatures spawn within 4 au of a celestial, so people have used a variety of methods over the years to make deep safes. Ok scratch the anoms, but I'm pretty sure I was making true deep safes using data/relic sites or wholes. If not, blame CCP. Or age. Or both. Or weed. Ok, maybe it was the weed.
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I tried the Abyssal-method, great so far. Thanks for the advise!
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Boatswain posted:I don't even watch anime but I'd pay a lot for these SKINs. Yup, regardless of the Macross like "space songstress" vibes, they're pretty well made. I'd love to have the Hel one.
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froody guy posted:Ok scratch the anoms, but I'm pretty sure I was making true deep safes using data/relic sites or wholes. If not, blame CCP. Or age. Or both. Or weed. Ok, maybe it was the weed. I think it was a ccp change, because I remember doing the same thing a long time ago.
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I think a lot of the techniques in Project Poseidon stopped working around the same time the changes to grid mechanics were made and Grid-Fu stopped being necessary/feasible.
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Truly deep safes (ie 100s of AU away from the center of the system) were pruned out by CCP, and there’s no reason they couldn’t run that script again if a significant number of new ones were made/noticed. What’s referred to as a deep safe nowadays is just anything not on d-scan from any celestial. The easiest way to generate those is via the triple abyssal method we’ve already mentioned. Another way is to follow incursions around. The sites generated by an incursion don’t follow the within 4au rules of another anoms. You can find them in random and deep parts of a system. Pretty easy to get safes 30-40 au away from anything.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:can you just create a bookmark in a system with a ridiculous number of AU from gate to gate? Sometimes, but not all systems are like that! A roamer is likely to see you on dscan warping from gate to gate, too.
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I'm a robin hood, stealing from krabs to give to me, an eve poor. I'm in the ESS, singing Christmas carols. I'm burning away, taking the bonds to asset safety. I love this content. Pls be nice and keep the combat probes inside, thnx.
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andromache posted:Truly deep safes (ie 100s of AU away from the center of the system) were pruned out by CCP, and there’s no reason they couldn’t run that script again if a significant number of new ones were made/noticed.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:can you just create a bookmark in a system with a ridiculous number of AU from gate to gate? depending on the geometry of the system you might still be able to create a good one with multiple steps, make a bookmark in warp between two points, make another bookmark in warp between two different points, and warp from one of those bookmarks to the other and make another bookmark in warp
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OneEightHundred posted:I think even new ones fall into the same type of filtering as bookmarks inside of the sun, where even if you try to warp to a positional bookmark inside of the sun, it will set your warp destination point to somewhere else. In a time before  implemented no fun zones, some clever nerd managed to create a few bookmarks in the the center of Jita's sun. It was a funky sight, and if you approached the very center of the sun itself it would yeet you away at ludicrous speeds anywhere from a few seconds to many minutes, depending on the mass of your ship. I recall sending a freighter to the center and it was a good 10 minutes before i could finally get aligned for warp again.
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hailthefish posted:depending on the geometry of the system you might still be able to create a good one with multiple steps, make a bookmark in warp between two points, make another bookmark in warp between two different points, and warp from one of those bookmarks to the other and make another bookmark in warp Whilst it is technically a deep safe, it is still inbetween different planets and so you run the (pretty big) risk of people warping between planets or wormholes or something and spotting you. I’d much prefer one that’s actually outside of the system, like one that’s created with incursions or the abyss method.
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It's worth noting anyone looking with combat probes will still catch you with a single scan, though I imagine that risk is probably lower in null than in highsec where people are specifically doing it to hunt abyssal runners. And you do still reduce the risks either way.
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OneEightHundred posted:I think even new ones fall into the same type of filtering as bookmarks inside of the sun, where even if you try to warp to a positional bookmark inside of the sun, it will set your warp destination point to somewhere else. We've actually spotted folks anchoring or with anchored structures in wormholes mostly within the sun collision bounding box before, there's usually a little section of the side of the structure they can get to docking range in, which they have bookmarked, but when they go off tether at the undock they go flying, and if you scan out the structure you can never get near it or often even on grid.
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floppyspud posted:Whilst it is technically a deep safe, it is still inbetween different planets and so you run the (pretty big) risk of people warping between planets or wormholes or something and spotting you. I’d much prefer one that’s actually outside of the system, like one that’s created with incursions or the abyss method. So while you are in the abyssal you aren’t in local. If you are the only one using the system (not uncommon in period basis and paragon soul) as long as your trace isn’t in scan range of the gate to gate path you are safe. Just don’t tell people where you are doing abyssal… ever. No gang is going to starburst an empty system, they’ll just do the next one.
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