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Kly
Aug 8, 2003

does ego just play cards completely randomly?
it played klaw on the farthest right location then played namor and nightcrawler together on turn 6. i figured it had some kind of basic AI that knew what cards did. does agatha work differently? the few times ive ended up with her forced into my hand she seemed to play cards decently but maybe i had just been lucky.

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victorious
Jul 2, 2007

As a youth I prayed, "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet."
I think they've said before that Ego and Agatha have the same 'AI'.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

victorious posted:

I think they've said before that Ego and Agatha have the same 'AI'.

Not quite. Agatha will always play herself if possible. Ego plays fully randomly, and will Trump Agatha should you get the location while playing the deck.

Apart from that, their rule is that they select cards at random to play until they no longer have energy to play any cards left in your hand.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Nybble posted:

Got to Infinite, and about stop playing for a bit save for the quests because my rank kept dropping, but then Blob Hela Casino really clicked with me. Went from 25k->10k over the past few days.

# (1) Blade
# (3) Lockjaw
# (3) Lady Sif
# (4) Jubilee
# (4) Silver Samurai
# (4) Black Cat
# (5) White Tiger
# (6) Blob
# (6) Hela
# (6) Magneto
# (6) The Infinaut
# (8) Death
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eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSGVsYSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2lsdmVyU2FtdXJhaSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFnbmV0byJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRGVhdGgifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkxhZHlTaWYifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkxvY2tqYXcifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsYWNrQ2F0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCbGFkZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSnViaWxlZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2hpdGVUaWdlciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmxvYiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSW5maW5hdXQifV19
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.

Granted a few of the best games were stealing a ton of cubes from folks who are experimenting with Havok/Junk decks. And it’s annoying when Hela is the last card in the deck and you can’t reach her. But the other cards can work in a pinch if needed. Gotten a lot better at retreating lately too, and I think this deck you usually know when you have it or not.

Can confirm this deck is very good, I swapped out tiger for ghost rider and moon knight for silver samurai though

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

Jedit posted:

Not quite. Agatha will always play herself if possible. Ego plays fully randomly, and will Trump Agatha should you get the location while playing the deck.

Apart from that, their rule is that they select cards at random to play until they no longer have energy to play any cards left in your hand.

They will also move cards (Nightcrawler, Vision, Jeff, ...) around. Not sure if they always do that or if they decide randomly.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

I get mad every time I see an Infinity Stone. Thanos Lockout isn't even the best deck; I just hate it so much and want it to go away forever.

Red posted:

https://twitter.com/LaurenWhatevs/status/1737208750455554398

Shadow King on the lane you sent Havok over is brutal

This is maybe the best deck, +/- a bit of refinement. The bounce shell remains absurd, and the %15 chance to outright win the game when you draw Havok > Viper is nusto. Here's Lamby talking about it,

Lamby posted:

Havok is good. A long one here, gotta read the whole thing, keep in mind the idea is "how to play a deck that runs an auto-win combo but is completely fine without drawing it"

It is 15% chance that u draw Havok + Viper by turn 2 (that is a huge % btw). I wanted to figure out if it was possible to do this and play a functional deck.

Bounce Shell is op. This is not a combo deck, its a deck hard carried by the bounce engine, that doesnt mind not drawing the autowin combo, and also doesnt mind not having all their energy.

Most games were won by doing bounce + werewolf things, or dropping Havok and letting him grow in unreachable locations (Prof X, Kylns, Big House etc).

Things to note when playing this:
- a strong understanding of the bounce archtype
- when to Havok just for stats

Card choices:
- Annihilus is just here to shift Hood over (sometimes Hood is 0 energy), its a strong swing. Swappable for sure, but it has been very impressive so far
- Iceman can be any other relevant 1 cost card
- Viper has use case outside of for Havok or Hood, it sometimes can just randomly clog your opponent.

Try the deck out, it is very very strong. Might actually be a better tournament deck seeing as how u can get away with "respect the autowin combo" type of snaps.

I expect alot of questions on this one. Ask away!

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Dec 20, 2023

Network42
Oct 23, 2002
That has me tempted to open for havok, but he still seems totally worthless in every other possible deck.

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib
What decks are good against InSheNaut and Thanos Blob? Both have deck guides on Snap Zone and have been 70% of my opponents today.

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Network42 posted:

That has me tempted to open for havok, but he still seems totally worthless in every other possible deck.

You know, he might do some fun stuff in a deck where you load up on cards that give you extra energy.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




twitch drops are live through jan 2.

2 hours: 65 boosters
4 hours: 350 credits
6 hours: mystery variant

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck
Just had an opponent immediately snap on Turn 1, use Tinkerer’s location to drop Havok… and then realize their mistake, Deadpool emote, and retreat.

lol, lmao

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Marx Headroom posted:

What decks are good against InSheNaut and Thanos Blob? Both have deck guides on Snap Zone and have been 70% of my opponents today.

Loki. He steals their cards and plays them at a discount. And Snowguard shits on InSheNaut all on her own.

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Fate Accomplice posted:

twitch drops are live through jan 2.

2 hours: 65 boosters
4 hours: 350 credits
6 hours: mystery variant

Rubbing my mitts together now in anticipation of the lovely, lovely variant coming my way

sailormoon
Jun 28, 2014

fighting evil by moonlight
winning love by daylight


Marx Headroom posted:

What decks are good against InSheNaut and Thanos Blob? Both have deck guides on Snap Zone and have been 70% of my opponents today.

You could accent your current deck with some utility cards.

Shadow King, Goose, Cosmo, and Shang Chi can give Blob a difficult time. You can also aim to clog their board with all of their stones using a standard junk deck. Mobius as well to prevent wave ramp.

Luke Cage is generally pretty good to run into SheNaut since Cyclops is annoying. You could also do a location canceller to end their turn 7 Limbo gameplay (Storm, Legion, Scarlet Witch) on turn 6 while they save for turn 7.

BillsPhoenix
Jun 29, 2023
But what if Russia aren't the bad guys? I'm just asking questions...
Blob 1 key last week, Nico 1 key this week. Feels good.

Nybble's discard blob deck is good and fun, thanks for sharing.

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

uXs posted:

They will also move cards (Nightcrawler, Vision, Jeff, ...) around. Not sure if they always do that or if they decide randomly.

They'll always move a card that can move, so nightcrawler/Jeff get moved the next turn and vision and phoenix force-revived cards will get moved every turn.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:
Yeah I think the Egotha AI is just “do things until you are not allowed to do things anymore.”

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Fate Accomplice posted:

twitch drops are live through jan 2.

2 hours: 65 boosters
4 hours: 350 credits
6 hours: mystery variant

Thanks for the heads up.

I also just had an amusing game of Snap, with Lamby's Havoc deck. They waved out a Hobgoblin in space throne on 4, I then Annihilus on 5, on turn 6 I havoc the space throne, viper for nothing in a lane they only have Nebula, then shadow king.

Turn 6 resolves with them playing Leader, which clones Viper and sends Nebula over to me, my Viper then sends it back, and Shadow king wins me the lane. Obviously Havoc wins me throne too, and I laughed.

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
If you put down a cloak I think the AI will always move everything it can to that spot, and for that matter anything else moveable will move. It does whatever can be done until nothing else can be done

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
I don't think the "Send Havok over with Viper then Shadow King him" is that great a strategy.

Wasting 6 energy for 6 power on your side..., and since Havok gets that last end of game boost back to 4 power, it's a whooping 2 power net gain. 2 power for 6 energy with the HOPE they'll retreat (so far only one person has in matches I've played that deck) ain't great, IMO.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Daily login rewards for Winterverse started today

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Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

icantfindaname posted:

Can confirm this deck is very good, I swapped out tiger for ghost rider and moon knight for silver samurai though

I tried this a few times, but I found that I was really missing Samurai - so many times I would hit their Blob/Zola/Taskmaster and reducing their overall possible power for the game.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


FlamingLiberal posted:

Daily login rewards for Winterverse started today

https://twitter.com/marvelsnap/status/1737551183483740393?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA

The big rewards are the Jim Lee Magneto variant on Christmas and also you get a Premium Mystery Variant on the last day

Also all the winter variants from last year will be in the shop on xmas

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

DrBouvenstein posted:

I don't think the "Send Havok over with Viper then Shadow King him" is that great a strategy.

Wasting 6 energy for 6 power on your side..., and since Havok gets that last end of game boost back to 4 power, it's a whooping 2 power net gain. 2 power for 6 energy with the HOPE they'll retreat (so far only one person has in matches I've played that deck) ain't great, IMO.

The more important part is that you cap your opponent on 4 energy. That's massively more impactful than adding a small amount of power to your side; it's depriving your opponent of all his 5 and 6 drops.

GarudaPrime
May 19, 2006

THE PANTS ARE FANCY!
I haven't been paying that much attention but do they just not release series 4 cards anymore?
I feel like Havok would have been a series 4 card.

Opps Havok is series 4.

GarudaPrime fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Dec 20, 2023

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
^^One might say havok is already a s4 card

If you donate havok on turn 3 they're stuck at 3 energy, while you're capped at 5

victorious
Jul 2, 2007

As a youth I prayed, "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet."

GarudaPrime posted:

I haven't been paying that much attention but do they just not release series 4 cards anymore?
I feel like Havok would have been a series 4 card.

Martyr was the most recent one, Man-Thing before that in early Oct.

victorious fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Dec 20, 2023

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Daily login rewards for Winterverse started today

https://twitter.com/marvelsnap/status/1737551183483740393?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA

The big rewards are the Jim Lee Magneto variant on Christmas and also you get a Premium Mystery Variant on the last day

I don't have anything in my inbox. Should I?

obi_ant
Apr 8, 2005

Red posted:

I don't have anything in my inbox. Should I?

I had to refresh a few times and it showed up for me.

Don't forget to watch the streams for free credits.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Jedit posted:

The more important part is that you cap your opponent on 4 energy. That's massively more impactful than adding a small amount of power to your side; it's depriving your opponent of all his 5 and 6 drops.

Well hasn't worked so far. I'm doing ok with that deck, just not on the games I send over Havok. Seem to be playing against a bunch of decks with good, low-cost, T6 drops.

Snazzy Frocks posted:

If you donate havok on turn 3 they're stuck at 3 energy, while you're capped at 5

But wouldn't that basically require Project Pegasus or Tinker's Workshop?

Or I guess Osborne Tower. Alas, only ran into that once with that deck but didn't have Havok in my hand. My opponent DID get The Hood, though, but they also played Killmonger and took him out along with my boosted Niko and Demon. :mad:

Nikumatic
Feb 13, 2012

a fantastic machine made of meat

DrBouvenstein posted:

But wouldn't that basically require Project Pegasus or Tinker's Workshop?

You can also drop Ravonna on T2, then Havok/Viper T3.

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

obi_ant posted:

I had to refresh a few times and it showed up for me.

Don't forget to watch the streams for free credits.

Another situation where I have to uninstall and reinstall the loving app

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo

DrBouvenstein posted:

Well hasn't worked so far. I'm doing ok with that deck, just not on the games I send over Havok. Seem to be playing against a bunch of decks with good, low-cost, T6 drops.

But wouldn't that basically require Project Pegasus or Tinker's Workshop?

Or I guess Osborne Tower. Alas, only ran into that once with that deck but didn't have Havok in my hand. My opponent DID get The Hood, though, but they also played Killmonger and took him out along with my boosted Niko and Demon. :mad:

Unless I'm missing something havok and viper both cost 2 so you play havok on 2 and viper on 3, no?

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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FlamingLiberal posted:

Daily login rewards for Winterverse started today

https://twitter.com/marvelsnap/status/1737551183483740393?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA

The big rewards are the Jim Lee Magneto variant on Christmas and also you get a Premium Mystery Variant on the last day

More free poo poo? when will this game stop loving us over? We here to hate play and 40 dollars of equivalent in game currency and unlocks is really hampering the narrative here.

E: also the twitch unlock is a guaranteed pixel. Set your expectations accordingly.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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80% chance it's a pixel, baby, or chibi

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004
I apologize for buying the Korg bundle for the coal avatar today; everyone wants SD to do better and I am actively making them worse

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Red posted:

Rubbing my mitts together now in anticipation of the lovely, lovely variant coming my way

Dan Hipp Leech. Not great, but not bad, either.

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

Red posted:

Dan Hipp Leech. Not great, but not bad, either.

That's one of the cutest variants in the game imho.

I got the Squirrel Girl that's in front of a wall. Not a pixel but why would I ever use it when I have the zombie variant?

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

Chibi Deathlok has a snowy background, so I guess he counts as Winterized. I'm sure my Winterverse mystery variant will be a pixel.

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bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Firebert posted:

I apologize for buying the Korg bundle for the coal avatar today; everyone wants SD to do better and I am actively making them worse

I think it's reasonably priced compared to other bundles

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