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Quackles posted:Sounds about right. ...Does that make Game 6 Silver...?
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So Darke went on a killing spree that resulted in 5 dead bodies, which he buried. He turned himself in, got questioned, then tried to escape, killing one of the investigating detectives in the process. He successfully escaped and evaded capture by the rest of the team for 6 months. Then he was caught, tried, and executed. Overall, the timeline isn't that weird. I'm more confused by the part where he turns himself in but then escapes and goes on the lam.
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Truthkeeper posted:So Darke went on a killing spree that resulted in 5 dead bodies, which he buried. He turned himself in, got questioned, then tried to escape, killing one of the investigating detectives in the process. He successfully escaped and evaded capture by the rest of the team for 6 months. Then he was caught, tried, and executed. Less turned himself in and more accepted being brought in after being captured, I think.
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My impression was the cops think Darke did it but don't have any hard proof. So they ask him to come into the station "to answer a few questions" hoping he kets something slip under questioning. He doesn't think they've got anything on him and comes in without a fight to not be suspicious. Then something goes down that spooks him and he attacks
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yeah if you go with gumshoe's idea that running over that first person just made him snap and go completely feral, it's not an unreasonable sequence of events
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I'm pretty sure Angel just isn't being very specific with the timeline and when she says "in those days" she's talking about the general time of SL-9. Darke definitely got arrested at Neil Marshall's crime scene after the 6-month chase, but the regular detectives were suspicious of the situation and kept investigating prior to and during Darke's trial. This is Jake's "obsessive" period Angel's talking about and leads to Angel getting fired and Jake demoted.
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Truthkeeper posted:So Darke went on a killing spree that resulted in 5 dead bodies, which he buried. He turned himself in, got questioned, then tried to escape, killing one of the investigating detectives in the process. He successfully escaped and evaded capture by the rest of the team for 6 months. Then he was caught, tried, and executed. He escaped after being photographed lying unconscious under Marshall's corpse? In the police department? Plus again the picture used for the six month chase has Neil Marshall in it, clearly alive.
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FoolyCharged posted:Less turned himself in and more accepted being brought in after being captured, I think. No, turned himself in.  Then tried to escape later anyway? Like I said, it's his change of heart on his change of heart that bothers me.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:No, turned himself in. Tree Reformat posted:Apparently that's a mistranslation that never got corrected. All he did was voluntarily submit himself to police questioning, but didn't actually tell them anything directly incriminating, is the implication here.
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Part 149: Episode 5, Day 3, Investigation: Light Burglary Before we leave Gumshoe behind, I never looked at his ID. Neither he nor anyone else around has any reaction to it, but we can take a closer look.   Detective Gumshoe isn't very photogenic, is he? Whatever you do, just don't say that to his face. Look, his eyes are half shut! Yeah... and his mouth is half open. Sound: Light Bulb And he's got the narrow end of his tie in front. ... I think this goes beyond being a "photogenic" issue....None of those things they mentioned are reflected in that picture at all. Well, off to the Chief's Office! Music: Silence  And we're back!  Here goes, Mr. Wright. Sound: Tap 3  Sound: Beepers  Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone?  quote:Original line: "Open sesame." Cute, but kind of overdone and doesn't really fit Ema. If anyone finds us now, Detective Gumshoe's a goner.Sound: Light Bulb Music: Silence  Gumshoe you big dork, what are you doing in here?  EEEEEEEEK!Sound: Stab 2  GAAAAAAAAH!Sound: Damage 2  Sound: Thwap    I didn't even know you could slap a ghost. AAAAH! Detective Gumshoe!Sound: Whack What are you doing sneaking up on us like that!?Sound: Damage 2  Sound: Whack  so I came too.Sound: Realization If you're here, then what's the point in giving us your ID card!?Sound: Whack  Sound: Select Jingle Hahaha destroying his ID seems a little harsh.  Sound: Damage 2 + Stab 2 Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone? I hardly ever get a chance to come in here, Sound: Whack Besides, we're all in this together now. You really do want to get fired, don't you? Sound: Light Bulb (I've got a bad feeling about this...)Not me, let's snoop around!  First, Gumshoe has some more to say to us. That desk on the other side of the room... Was that your sister's?  on that day two years ago. Is anyone using it now? No sir. This is entirely Chief Gant's office now. (That's a strange reason to leave it there...) Sound: Realization He told us so himself at our New Year's party. Now I'm trying to imagine how Gant could be even weirder while drunk. I see. So ever since Lana left, no one ever touches that desk? Sound: Light Bulb I guess we won't be lifting two-year-old fingerprints here. (Still, two years have passed since that incident.) (There can't possibly be any clues remaining.) Can I ask you something?Sound: Realization Sure. I mean, that's your only reason for coming here, isn't it? ... Why do you ask? Gumshoe are you suspecting Gant, too?  ... No, there's no way. Never mind. Don't worry about it.Sound: Realization Okay. Now then, let's look around a bit more.Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Whack Sound: Damage 2 Huh? What is it?  You don't just let it go at that! S-sorry. (This guy's starting to get on my nerves.)You shut your mouth. Okay, so what's bothering you? You two don't think...Music: Silence  Sound: Realization What!?Sound: Light Bulb  He's right, Mr. Wright! What do we think of him?  (Perhaps it's best I don't divulge my feelings... yet.)Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Realization Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone? Well that was fun. Closest the game has really come to confirming our suspicions so far.  A couple items have different reactions now. This knife belonged to the murderer, Joe Darke, right? The broken tip of the knife was found inside the victim's body. (Ever since that case was solved, this knife's been in Detective Goodman's locker.) Not only that, but it was wrapped in Lana's scarf. What's even more mysterious, Answer me that, pal! Now I know where I saw that before... Sound: Realization "Here"? You mean, in the Chief's office? I used to stare at it while being forced to listen to that organ. You would stare at it? Telepathy would be an interesting explanation for how the jar broke... Your telepathy... Hey, there it is!Sound: Light Bulb  Oh yeah.Sound: Realization  The only thing left to see is Gumshoe's new generic reaction. If I'm fired, I won't be able to give you any information! Sound: Whack You understand, don't you? Don't be so negative, Detective! We do want you to share your information, though. Argh! Got... to stay... positive!Sound: Realization  Sound: Spritz x 3 With the evidence out of the way, I'm going to move on to the luminol testing next. To my surprise, the suit of armor didn't have any reaction. However we do get something down here...  Sound: Photo Snap x 3  Sound: Stab Is this from that incident? It must be. When Prosecutor Neil Marshall was murdered. (So a murder really did take place here.) Now let's tear this office apart. The Chief's organ sure is a sight to behold. (That's on the 2nd floor, and this is the 15th floor of an entirely different building!) and makes them listen to the organ for hours.quote:The original lines used "him" instead of "them", despite having seen multiple female detectives in this game. Good edit!  What's so bad about that? Music soothes the soul!Sound: Light Bulb After that, (So it's an instrument of punishment... literally.) But aren't the Chief's ears affected? ... (That's beside the point...)That's gotta violate some kind of union rule.  This mark looks like some kind of flower. "Prosecutor's badge"...?Sound: Realization Yeah, like the one hanging from your collar. What!? They have badges too!?Sound: Light Bulb  Now that you mention it, it does look all pointy and kind of painful. But Mr. Edgeworth never wears a badge. That's because he's a sharp dresser. Sound: Realization Well, can't fault that logic. So sharp dressers don't need to wear badges?Sound: Realization I guess everyone just kind of lets it slide. (I don't see how that's supposed to signify severe punishment...)Have we seen any prosecutor wearing a badge?  Wow! Look at the size of Chief Gant's desk! (Speaking of that, when we were here earlier...) Chief Gant!Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Realization I wonder what he was reading? Sound: Realization A list of evidence? Hey, look at the case name!Sound: Light Bulb Music: Silence  Sound: Realization Hold on, Detective! What did you just say?Sound: Light Bulb I said,Sound: Light Bulb "I wonder what..." No, about evidence lists. Normally they're twice as long?Music: Suspense  (A half-sized list of evidence...)  Most lists... run twice as long. Other half!? Up until that moment I'd thought it was just another copy of the same shortened list, with some things left out. Gant literally tearing the list in half and only giving one half to Edgeworth seems sloppy.  It would appear so.Music: Silence  Sound: Select Jingle Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone?  We can still look at the desk again. Wow! Look at the size of Chief Gant's desk! We found this inside the drawer. A list of evidence from the SL-9 Incident. (What would this list be doing here...?) (We'd better look a little more into this list.)Sound: Realization Good idea!  Unfortunately the list isn't actually readable.  Flip it over, though...  That looks an awful lot like what Ema saw the night of the incident. Was this the drawing she did? Why would it be on here? I wonder what this is? (It looks like someone drew some kind of sketch here!) Sound: Light Bulb (I can't make it out. I'd better keep quiet about it for now.) Huh? Oh. No, it's nothing. (I'd better not forget about this picture!) The evidence doesn't actually get updated, but finding that picture on the back feels like the first time we've really needed to use this examine-evidence system to figure something out. Let's present this thing to Gumshoe now. That's what the Chief was reading before, wasn't it? You know, when we first came in here? Yeah. It looks like the right side of the form's been torn off. Sound: Light Bulb Something else is buggin' me more than that. (The back...?)Sound: Realization A nice hint to look closer at this list. Appreciated since it's been awhile since we've really been able to use that system, and I'm not sure we've ever really needed to use it.  I could've sworn this guy was going to have blood on his knife/short sword. But either the incident didn't really go down that way or Gant swapped it out? Finding the blood pool all the way on the other side of the room kind of makes it less likely that anything happened over here. Maybe it's just meant to be distinctive, to prove that the "team picture" on the other side was really taken in here? This is the real deal, isn't it? This armor and these weapons? First the pipe organ, now this armor... Do you know how many taxpayer dollars must have gone into this room?Sound: Realization What? You mean we're paying for this!?Sound: Whack Eh, they were probably "donations" from the likes of Redd White, anyway.  Good luck in prison! (You don't have any taxes to pay.) Ssh! Be careful of what you say! I don't think he'd fit in there.Sound: Realization Even if he did, he'd never be able to get back out.Sound: Realization  I already know the man's stare is terrifying, at least.  You can see pretty far from 15 stories up.  Okay, I love how they don't even let Ema finish that gag here. Really? Why didn't he? Oh. (Stained glass or not, it's a huge window...) That safe looks entirely too interesting, let's try the rest of the room first.  Here's that picture again...  (The day Joe Darke ran out of the questioning room and tried to kill Ema...) then went along with Chief Gant to question Darke.I know! Manfred von Karma killed Neil Marshall, for taking his award!  (Gee, you think?) This was Lana's desk. It sure is tidy. There's not even any dust on it! Looks like someone's still keeping it clean. Does Lana ever come back here? No. They were the stuff legends are made of! (Does he keep it in memory of her, or in memory of the crime...?)Way to make it creepy, Phoenix.  These shelves are mostly empty. Lana must have cleaned them out when she transferred over to the Prosecutor's Office. There's a small picture frame on the left shelf. Hey!Sound: Light Bulb  ......That was weird.  Look at that giant window... Uh, this is the 15th floor.Sound: Realization I know! I was just saying...Sound: Whack (Saying what?) Jumping through a window? Or hurling yourself from a 15-story building?  So long as he doesn't go crashing through that window when he gets fired. Don't say that!Sound: Whack  Looks like all that's left is this safe. This is a safe, isn't it? Uh, okay. If you say so... Music: Silence   I don't even need to check our list of numbers to remember this one. Do you know what it is?Sound: Light Bulb I have a hunch... Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Photo Snap x 4  Music: Logic and Trick  There's only one seven-digit number that we know about. Gant isn't really that dumb, is he?  Well. I guess we've confirmed who has that ID number now.  Sound: Ching Bingo.Sound: Realization quote:We can choose not to touch the safe, if we want to keep investigating the rest of the room first. quote:If we enter the wrong code, the safe displays "Code input error." instead and dumps us back out. Music: Silence  Sound: Whack Whose birthday was that, pal?Sound: Whack "7777777." The final ID card number on that record.Sound: Realization What?Sound: Light Bulb Music: Suspense The number of the mysterious "executive officer" who entered the room that day. You mean,Sound: Whack  I think you're one "seven" shy this time. This can only mean one thing: That's Chief Gant's ID number!Sound: Objection And he's really bad at password security!  Sound: Whack  We have to examine the open safe now...  Sound: Whack Sound: Damage 2 Is that why Gant can always loan out $50? I figured it was more the corruption, myself. Look! It's a... a...Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Realization Hmm, now why would he have that here? (This somehow looks familiar. Where have I seen this before...?)Sound: Light Bulb There's something else in here too. Sound: Realization Two-for-one!   Sound: Whack You think the Chief made up the design?Sound: Drama Pound Uh... I don't think so.Sound: Realization Oh. Well, it was just a thought. Sound: Whack Apparently so. It's empty now.Music: Silence  They look like pieces of evidence. Sound: Realization I'm afraid I can't just let you take them. Sound: Whack Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone? (Great. Now I have to prove their "relevancy" to get them.) (How are these two items related to the SL-9 Incident?)  Ema's last line there is a hint that we need to present something. One of them is easy...  We found a shard that looks a lot like it came from this jar. Detective Gumshoe. Could you have another look at this jar? (It's kind of early to be nostalgic.) Wasn't this jar a piece of evidence from that case? If only one shard had an evidence tag on it, does that mean the jar was intact after the incident and shattered some time later? Otherwise wouldn't every shard have an evidence tag? Doesn't this ring any bells? You know, that fragment we just found? Sound: Realization Yes, that one... that was in the safe.Sound: Realization ...Music: Silence !Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Whack  It's just one shard, how bad could it be? Here, let me see that shard. I'll take a crack at this. Sound: Realization Mr. Wright! Here's some glue!Sound: Light Bulb (If I can piece this together again...) (it'll prove Chief Gant was knowingly hiding evidence!) (Here goes...)quote:We can leave the jar alone, if we have other things to look at first. Music: Logic and Trick  More of the jar assembly mini-game, but just one piece to wrestle into place.  Interesting mark there. That's not just normal blood spatter. quote:Once we agree to try assembling the jar, we can also give up on the puzzle screen... Music: Silence  Sound: Realization Chief Gant willingly and knowingly hid a piece of this jar in his safe.Sound: Realization !Sound: Light Bulb Music: Suspense In other words, he concealed a piece of evidence from the SL-9 Incident. But... Sound: Whack What is it? it's different from the others!Sound: Realization   Sound: Wipe  Okay now what the hell is that?  Sound: Light Bulb (A reddish line...) (That's blood!)Sound: Realization Well no poo poo. But how or why did it leave a mark like that?  Sound: Stab Music: Silence Why would Chief Gant hide this in his safe?Sound: Realization  Sound: Select Jingle I'll go more into the jar later, but for now, we have one other thing we found in that safe. So what should we show to Detective Gumshoe for the piece of cloth?
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I want to know Gumshoe's birthdate!
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Phoenix calling him Mr. Edgeworth internally is just weird.
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DKII posted:
Amazing.
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DKII posted:
It's past midnight here on this coast, therefore, happy Almost Christmas to all who celebrate our Lord and Saviour, Phoenix Wright
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 Happy almost christmas day everyone!
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Part 150: Episode 5, Day 3, Investigation: Evidence Tampering This one isn't too hard. The logical thing to do with a mysterious handprint is to check for fingerprints!  But first, I didn't have enough characters free in the last update to present the completed jar to Gumshoe, so let's do that now! I feel a lot better now that this jar's complete. But it only raises another question: Sound: Realization More importantly, why wasn't there any money in there? Isn't that what safes are for anyway!?Sound: Whack (I have a feeling the outcome of tomorrow's trial just might hinge on this...) We can also look closer at the odd mark on this jar...  Hmm... Looks like blood.Sound: Realization This piece the Chief has is different, though. but this one's a line!Sound: Light Bulb (That is odd...) Anyway, onto the fingerprinting set! Detective Gumshoe. I'd like you to have a look at this. Sound: Light Bulb That's a great idea, Detective! ... ...Music: Silence What are you doing? Why are you sticking out your hand like that?Sound: Realization  Sound: Realization ... Huh?Sound: Light Bulb Come on, this isn't the time for jokes.Sound: Whack We're talking about that cloth we found in the safe! Sound: Damage 2 Sound: Light Bulb Sheesh, where's your sense of humor?Music: Logic and Trick  Sprinkle the powder on the cloth, Maybe that safe really preserved the oils in the fingerprints that allow for absorbing the powder? I'm not going to question this one too closely. (What are you, my mom? I don't have to be told a million times.) All right, let's get this over with! The hardest part of this process is guessing which of the five prints here will give us a complete result.  I've learned to be very wasteful with the powder in order to actually count as fully covering the print. Sound: Light Bulb Hmm... I gave it my best shot.quote:If we select one print, and then go back:  But it doesn't look like we'll get a clearer result from this print.  Back at the handprint now. We get that smudged print for four out of the five possibilities here. I'll spare you the rest of my trial and error and take you straight to the good print.  Sound: Light Bulb This one took a couple of tries to fully cover it.  User whitehelm pointed out last time I messed around with fingerprint matching, that I don't need to just randomly guess. It's pretty clear from just looking at the two prints that there's no match here. But if not Gant, then who?  ...  Now why would Gant have Ema's handprint in his safe? Where could it have come from? quote:Some hints from submitting an incorrect match: Music: Silence  Sound: Realization (What are Ema's fingerprints doing here!?) Sound: Light Bulb Huh? Oh, uh... it seems the prints are too old.Sound: Stab They aren't clear enough to get a match.Sound: Realization  That would've been interesting. I don't think Darke was in our comparison prints for matching, anyway. Psst! Hey you. Over here. Sound: Realization Gumshoe cleverly calls us over to the other side of the room to discuss this news. Don't ask me! Let's just keep this information from Ema for now. ...I'm on board with hiding this one from her. We don't need her pulling a DL-6 and confessing on the last trial day or something.   Sound: Select Jingle Can we pair this up with the evidence list to figure out what it is? Maybe during trial tomorrow. Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone?  Maybe Gumshoe can tell us more about it? What is this piece of cloth, anyway? I think I've felt something like this before... ... Nah. I can't remember. It seems this is becoming a habit with you. Note to Self: Detective Gumshoe is going senile. (Ema's fingerprints were found on this cloth.) (I have a bad feeling about this...) I'm stumped on this cloth. We can give it a closer look, though. This is a handprint, right? Yeah. Someone left behind an oil stain on the fabric. Whoever it was, they must have had a really oily hand. Sound: Light Bulb Huh? A more likely explanation is... getting wax all over their hand. Well, that would account for this amount of oil I guess.Sound: Realization (I don't see what's so "scientific" about it though.) ...Did it happen right before you went to hang out in Lana's office that day? No, no reason for asking...  Sound: Light Bulb I'm very confused by our new evidence, to be honest. That cloth in particular just opened up a lot more questions. Anyway, once we have cleared Gumshoe's topics again and obtained all three new pieces of evidence (the evidence list, the cloth-with-handprint, and the completed jar), we get tossed straight into a new scene. Of course! quote:Since we trigger the scene once getting all three pieces of evidence, we lose the opportunity to present to Gumshoe whichever item we obtained last. I cheated to show you the results of all three anyway.  Sound: Realization Scatter!  I guess we're not smart enough to run.  Sound: Realization EEEEEEEK!Sound: Stab C-Chief Gant!Sound: Stab 2 Music: Suspense We didn't think you'd be back so soon. Sound: Whack  As I was walking to my meeting,  Just then I thought of a certain detective. Do you mean... m-me, sir? Sound: Realization Y-yes sir!Sound: Light Bulb Sorry... Oh, you in the coat. Me, sir!?Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Realization You won't be needing it anymore. But sir... Gant does his trademark pause, though at least he's not slow-blinking at us this time.  Sound: Realization Y-y-yes sir!Sound: Light Bulb Sound: Drama Pound We'll be on our way too, then. Wait.Sound: Light Bulb You, the one without the spiky hair. Sound: Realization M-me, sir!?Sound: Light Bulb I'd like a word with you. You with the spiky hair.Sound: Light Bulb  You're free to go.Sound: Whack  Sound: Realization Music: Silence Phoenix, you coward! Please tell me you did not leave our under-age colleague alone with the killer!!  The Chief's office is off limits!I'm not sure what Gumshoe's trying here, but good effort I guess? Pretty sure he's still fired.  I'm going to pause a moment and look at some of our evidence with Ema not around to comment on it. The dark red stains must be blood traces from the incident two years ago. I think I've figured this one out. The prologue had a spinning knife. Did someone toss the true murder weapon across the room, striking and breaking this jar? Leaving a mark where the knife impacted it, and spatter elsewhere?  A clear handprint can be seen on the leather cloth. A leather cloth... was Neil Marshall wearing a leather vest? Could this cloth be a scrap from it? How would Ema's handprint have gotten on it?  A picture is drawn on the back of the evidence list in magic marker. I haven't figured this one out. It's Ema's drawing of what she saw when the lightning struck. It seems difficult to stab Neil Marshall in the back from this position, but I'm not sure it proves anything. However, between two of these items having ties to Ema, and Gant's interest in holding Ema back just now, I've come up with a new theory. What if... Ema somehow caused Neil Marhsall's death? Gant walks in on the scene, tosses the real murder weapon away (accidentally breaking the jar), and stabs Marshall with Joe Darke's knife into the same wound. He then conspires with Lana to frame Darke and cover up that anything else ever happened in there. Maybe he even tells Lana about Ema's involvement to blackmail her. Lana being blackmailed and submitting to everything in this case so far explains all of her behavior in this episode, from her confession to her reluctance for us to investigate anything to do with SL-9. Then, two years later, Goodman can't let SL-9 just be closed forever, and Gant kills him to keep everything quiet. Gant then pressures Lana again, getting her to the parking garage where she ends up taking the fall for Goodman's murder. I think we have all the pieces now, with one big hole at the start of this paragraph still....  Oh, right, Gumshoe's still acting like he wasn't just fired. I thought you said you didn't care anymroe if you were fired.Sound: Realization  I never would've said it!Sound: Whack (Now that I've seen the evidence Chief Gant was hiding in his office...) (I think I'm finally starting to get the picture...) Sound: Realization Do we still have time to go talk to Lana again? quote:Original line: "It's hard to believe anyone could keep quiet about it all this time..." The line itself is fine, but the replacement is a better hint to go talk to Lana again. Music: Investigation - Core Anyway, you listenin' to me!?Sound: Whack  Sound: Drama Pound Later, pal!Sound: Light Bulb  so she'll be busy for the rest of the day... We didn't need a hint after all; the game brought us straight here on its own.  It's no use thinking about it. Tomorrow's the final day in court. I'm committed to doing everything I can to defend you, which is why I'm here. What you've told me over these past couple of days... is absolutely nothing. Not a single, useful thing.  Something I told you right at the beginning. You know, I think I've finally figured it out.She was telling the truth all along. She did stab Goodman. But she wasn't "the" one who did it; she was one of the ones...  Sound: Realization quote:Original line: "Who it is you're hiding behind those words." Using "lurking" gives the new line a more sinister context, I like it.  ... !Sound: Light Bulb  It seems Edgeworth was right. Edgeworth...? "Thick-headed" is the term he used, I believe. (Now's my chance to get her to tell me the rest of the story!) I'm guessing we have more topics unlocked, but first I want to run around to see if anything has changed elsewhere.  Instead of a list of locations, I get this explanation from Phoenix. That line probably should have been in your head, Phoenix.  Okay, so we can't move. Let's try out our evidence then. (Showing evidence isn't going to do me any good now.) (I've got to get Lana to tell me everything she's hiding!) Mr. Wright. I'm starting to see the hunger in your eyes. We have no choice but to talk, and only one topic has revealed itself. It's a barely-interactive cutscene, really, but let's dive in. I have to admit I was more than a little perplexed at first. That's when it hit me. It's not that you're unwilling to tell the truth, Sound: Realization  What an intriguing notion. A certain, "individual," you say? Protecting? No. I think "afraid of" is more like it. !Sound: Light Bulb If I'm not mistaken, the person in question may have persuaded you to silence. ... The one I am supposedly so "frightened" of? What is this person's name? This one's so easy, the game even presents it as the default option. I have no idea how these are sorted, actually.  Well, Ms. Skye? ...  Mr. Wright. You are addressing the Chief Prosecutor. Do not forget your place. (I take it she's still not ready to spill the beans.) My apologies. quote:Original line: "Could you please tell me a bit more about the circumstances?" Not as clear, for sure. quote:Wrong answers send us back to the conversation screen to try again:  Our reward is a new single topic to go over. Our movement is still restricted, so nothing to do but put voice to our theory.  I respected him as a detective. Assuming he is respectable, then tell me something... Sound: Realization Even though it's a Phoenix line, I had to show Lana's well-timed reaction there.  His "crimes"...? Both you and Edgeworth will be brought before a board of inquiry for what you did. Specifically, hiding and forging evidence. Why is it, though, that Chief Gant's name was never mentioned? Chief Gant...?Sound: Light Bulb Edgeworth didn't know the truth behind the forgery. The only party who could have possibly tampered with the evidence was... Me.Sound: Realization  Yes you, but also one other: Damon Gant. ... Show me proof that Chief Gant falsified evidence in that case! Seems like there could be multiple options here, of the three things we got from Gant's office. I'll start with the buried evidence list. I just found this in a safe in the Chief's office.Sound: Realization Actually, we found that list in Gant's desk?  ...Neither of those is the evidence list we presented.  The jar piece, yes. The strip of cloth, I'm not sure we've established as related to SL-9 directly, other than it having Ema's prints on it? So what's going on here? I think there's either a bug or there's a disconnect between the script and the gameplay here. Presenting the completed jar gets us this same scene, and it makes a little more sense that way. Normally when the scene shows two pieces of evidence like that, it's because either one works in the prior prompt, but that's not the case here. Presenting the piece of cloth that we found doesn't actually work here at all. So why does presenting the evidence list work, when the subsequent dialogue doesn't seem to refer to it?  I... Now tell me! Why are you taking all the blame for him!Sound: Desk Slam I've never been so tempted to use a non-default sprite for a Phoenix-line in an investigation segment. This whole conversation even feels more like a trial sequence!  quote:As I mentioned, the strip of cloth doesn't work, so that or anything else besides the jar and the list just take us back to topic selection again, though we are still on the second topic instead of going all the way back to the beginning at least. Music: Silence  even if it means being found guilty for murder.Sound: Realization Music: Recollection ~ The SL-9 Incident Why not? Three days ago... I had no choice but to cooperate. (In the murder of Detective Goodman!)Sound: Realization  Yes, that's more accurate than "cooperate." Topic #3, still locked into the program, here we go! Although I can't tell you the details, I can say that I was given an order that day.Music: Silence  Sound: Wipe  Well, that rather plainly spells it out. No dialogue blips for either of those two lines, either. Music: Recollection ~ The SL-9 Incident Just as I suspected. Despite what everyone believes... Correct.  And I discovered the murder weapon while inspecting the body. The murder weapon... You mean, Edgeworth's knife? No. Sound: Realization (The knife from the SL-9 Incident... serial killer Joe Darke's knife!)Sound: Light Bulb  so I took it out and stabbed him with another knife.Sound: Stab 2 Music: Silence That would be Edgeworth's knife? That's right. That's why I ended up cutting my hand.Sound: Realization And that is the reason for the bandage on your right hand?Sound: Light Bulb  And then... Sound: Shock 2 (Ms. Starr, huh...)The only thing I'm still not sure about - was Ms. Starr planted there to witness Lana disposing of Goodman's body, or was that fact a mere coincidence?  Music: Recollection ~ The SL-9 Incident Why did you need to hide Darke's knife so badly? We don't have to pass a test to unlock the next topic. I guess that means the previous topic can stick around and be repeated. It took a lot of work to finally close the Darke case two years ago. My intent was to prevent that by whatever means possible. So... you hid Darke's knife? If word got out, which it would, the reporters would have a field day with that.Sound: Wipe  During the five-minute gap in Angel Starr's testimony, I assume. In Edgeworth's exhaust pipe...   Sound: Realization You asked Ema?Sound: Light Bulb I didn't want anyone on the force to know about this.Music: Silence Sound: Wipe  Well, except apparently Ema didn't hear Lana's instructions well enough to actually execute them. Instead she found us, and we ruined Lana's grand plan to confess and keep SL-9 buried by providing her with a competent defense. Sound: Wipe   A bad feeling? the first thing I did was make a phone call. Sound: Realization Music: Jake Marshall ~ The Detective from the Wild West  Sound: Light Bulb Sound: Whack I wasn't sure we'd be seeing this guy or hearing his music again; I approve.  I wanted that fact to be kept hidden, and I needed help. He was the only other person I could trust. However, it seems that after I spoke to him he went off on an escapade of his own...Sound: Realization Oh! You mean...Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Wipe  He had already stolen the ID card...  So your phone call caused the incident in the evidence room!?Sound: Realization Music: Silence  But Lana... Now please... Music: Investigation - Core (Tomorrow's trial... There's only one way to drive off Lana's demons...) I'm not sure we actually learned anything new from Lana, but it's nice to have our double-stabbing theory confirmed.    Music: Jingle - It Can't End Here  This investigation day was another long one, but it was by far the most enjoyable. Trial day should be fun tomorrow. Assuming we have two segments again, will there be two witnesses? Will we start with Lana or Ema, or go straight after Gant? I'm actually excited to find out!
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Rise to the Ashes takes a while to get started, but once it goes, it goes. It's practically a game-ending case by itself, and it's a good one - and now we're seeing it reach its crescendo.
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Oh, definitely. It's too long, for sure, and really feels like it drags in the first half, but once it gets going it's really good. The music unique to this case is great, too.
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Quackles posted:Rise to the Ashes takes a while to get started, but once it goes, it goes. It's practically a game-ending case by itself, and it's a good one - and now we're seeing it reach its crescendo. I was kind of wondering 'why did i like this case again?' to myself, as we went through this. It's so much longer and less sensical than I remember. But the most recent segments, yeah. They're very good. I'm remembering why I wanted to see this again. That and Gant's music, of course.
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Yeah, as much as the case is way too long, it does feel wonderful once everything starts slotting into place. We've got some of the answers, or at least we have some plausible ideas about some of the answers, and now it's time to start sorting everything out and wrapping up all of those little inconsistencies that have been bothering us all case long.
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I assume Angel Starr witnessing the "murder" was an accident, since it seems like everything was set up to make Edgeworth take the fall. He was present at the scene of both crime scenes, the murder weapon was his knife, and the body was his in trunk. Angel Starr just happened to witness the second incident and Lana took the fall for it.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I assume Angel Starr witnessing the "murder" was an accident, since it seems like everything was set up to make Edgeworth take the fall. He was present at the scene of both crime scenes, the murder weapon was his knife, and the body was his in trunk. Angel Starr just happened to witness the second incident and Lana took the fall for it.  Lana would still be useful, Edge recently grew a conscience and thus needed to be disposed of.
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I'm not sure anyone was supposed to take the fall. I would assume the plan was that Lana takes the body from Edgeworth's car, moves it to her own, then buries it somewhere/dumps it in the sea/burns it/whatever.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:He was present at the scene of both crime scenes, the murder weapon was his knife, and the body was his in trunk. Except the murder weapon was the SL9 knife, Lana just admitted to having decided on her own to swap the knives.
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Yeah. Lana just admitted the only reason Edgeworth's knife was involved was that she saw the sl9 knife and had a freak out.
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Yeah Edgeworth getting wrapped up in this seemed more unintentional but also happened to help with whatever the plan was by casting more suspicion at him and the whole false evidence thing.
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Part 151: Episode 5, Final Day, Trial Former: Trip to Yesteryear Music: Silence  We learned a lot about Goodman's murder in our investigation yesteray. I don't think any of it is going to matter much at first today, though. I don't know what to expect here, really. (This is the Defendant's Lobby all right... but there's no defendant.) Wait, do they let the defendants out of the detention center to just wander over to the courthouse on their own? (And where's Ema, for that matter? It almost seems as if...) Sound: Realization  Edgeworth!Sound: Light Bulb Music: Courtroom Lobby ~ Beginning Overture Knowing you, you've already figured it out... Has Edgeworth also figured it out? Well... I have a pretty strong hunch. Sound: Wipe (Looks like I'm not the only one who's figured it out.) You know, the only reason this trial didn't reach a verdict yesterday...Sound: Realization  If that number does belong to whom you suspect, then no doubt will remain. After all, he hasn't been officially charged with anything. True... Not yet.Sound: Realization Is Phoenix's whole strategy to get Gant charged with evidence tampering to reveal his ID number? That's... actually not bad?   Five minutes, Wright, and Chief Prosecutor Skye will be found guilty. But she didn't do it!Sound: Whack We've fairly well-proven that Goodman was killed in the evidence room, not the parking garage. And that it wasn't Lana's ID on the record accessing the evidence room. She's just about the only person that couldn't have killed Goodman, but she'll still be found guilty anyway if we can't nail the real killer.  Edgeworth seems to realize the whole setup today is ridiculous, too. (This is the first time he's ever done something like this...) Lana's hiding something, and the only way we'll ever know the truth... is to draw it out of her. The "truth"?Sound: Realization Everything goes back to the SL-9 Incident. Sound: Whack We don't have time to reminisce about the past! That depends on you. ...!Sound: Light Bulb If she's found guilty, you'll lose your only chance to find out what really happened. See you in court, Wright.Edgeworth fades out... (This is it.)Music: Silence (If I'm ever going to find out what Chief Gant has on her, it's now!)  Sound: Gallery  Sound: Gavel Music: Trial  The defense is ready, Your Honor. The prosecution is ready, Your Honor. ? But before that, the police chief has a proposal to make. (Chief Gant...!)Sound: Realization  This development seems unlikely to be good for us.  Sound: Whack Sound: Clapping  No, I've been drowning enough as it is in my work.Sound: Light Bulb  Ho! That's a good one! Don't think I can top that!Sound: Whack Sound: Clapping   Music: Silence Lana... that is to say, the defendant, Sound: Realization Looks like just like last episode, we'll spend the last day of trial grilling our own client out of their confession. (She wants to do what!?) Sound: Light Bulb Yeah I bet you do. In the end, it should save everyone a lot of time and trouble. Well, here we go. Music: Trial  What's this all about, defendant? Well then? What's your request? Sound: Realization Huh!?Sound: Stab I confess to all charges against me.  Sound: Guilty While not ideal, that's the same story she's been telling since she was first arrested. No, Lana!Sound: Stab 2 Music: Suspense  Sound: Gallery Looks like we're already in the thick of it.  Sound: Gavel x 3   Sound: Desk Slam You can't! In that case, Mr. Wright, ...I really should have seen that coming. I'm not sure why she let us represent her in the first place, really. But Lana!Sound: Light Bulb  The prosecution may lack direct evidence against me,  I would like you to render your verdict now, if you please. Hmm...  I'm pretty sure there are legal reasons to deny a sudden change in representation like this one, particularly if it's followed by a sudden confession without even a plea deal. It reeks of illegal pressuring. Sound: Gavel Music: Silence   even if Mr. Wright may feel otherwise. (This can't be happening!)I really thought we'd be having Lana testify her confession for us to cross-examine, but I guess not?    Sound: Shock 2 x 4  One moment, Your Honor.Music: Suspense M-Mr. Edgeworth!? I would ask what that little detail has to do with anything all of the sudden, but Edgeworth seems to be on our side here so I'll just shut up.  Sound: Desk Slam Any ruling at this stage would certainly be premature.Sound: Drama Pound  Sound: Realization I understand this is a difficult time for you, Sound: Whack   Hmph. Sound: Realization There's an interesting dynamic here, if we assume that Edgeworth knows that Gant is the real killer at this point. Gant has been screwing with Edgeworth all episode, and now Edgeworth is finally going to fight back. What? Sorry, but I'm no longer the naive little "boy" you would have me be. ... With this sudden confession from the defendant...  ... Hmph. I thought so.Really, Edgeworth was going to resign anyway, so what does he have to lose here?  Oh? To whom...? Sound: Realization All right, time to make a teenager relive her trauma! I wonder who Edgeworth's first witness was going to be initially? I request the court hears her testimony! Sound: Objection  Sound: Whack Go away Lana, you're clearly compromised here. I don't think we need to contin- Sound: Realization ...!Sound: Light Bulb The exposure of truth sometimes results in tragedy... However! No matter how tragic the truth may be, This is Edgeworth's world, we're all just living in it. Sound: Gavel Music: Silence  That's okay with you, right Chief Gant? Now we have to take Gant down, for Edgeworth's sake. A cause I'm much more in alignment with. Ms. Ema Skye. Please take the stand. What an interesting phrase there. Usually it's "take the bull by the horns" here. I wonder if that one translated differently from Japanese? Oh, right, witness testimony coming.  Music: Trial Now then, witness. Please state your name and occupation. Um... M-my name is Ema. Ema Skye. Edgeworth finally gets a cooperative witness! Kind of; she still didn't really answer the question. Her occupation is "student". Two years ago... Is this correct? Yes. I'm sorry, Edgeworth doesn't look very sorry. Mr. Edgeworth. Please remember this trial concerns the murder of Detective Goodman. Yes. It most certainly is.Sound: Realization ... ... W-well okay then!Sound: Stab (He sure gave in fast...) Now......Did Edgeworth just bluff the judge there? Or has he put it all together himself?   Sound: Wipe Music: Silence   Sound: Testimony 2 Music: Questioning - Moderato I was waiting in my sister's office that day. Neil Marshall rescued me, but I'll never forget what I saw in that instant!Sound: Whack Sound: Wipe  Music: Silence Well, I already know what to present for this one. It's a good thing you weren't harmed. I passed out... I don't remember much.  What does this testimony have to do with Detective Goodman's murder? ... Sound: Realization (You've got to admire him for his courage, considering he has no evidence...) Do we still have standing here? I thought we were fired. Oh well, might as well keep yelling and pointing at things until they kick us out!  Sound: Testimony 2 (Ema doesn't have any reason to lie...) (but Lana sure does.) I was waiting in my sister's office that day. Yes. She was second in command under then Deputy Chief of Police Gant. Yes, I remember. I believe they shared the same office. That's right. I'd always sit at my sister's desk, I wanted to play it that day, too... Lana promised to take me to dinner after she finished her work. A man came running in, and took me hostage. A "man"...? Yes, Joe Darke. Sound: Wipe Joe Darke was brought in for questioning on the day of that ceremony. When he saw his chance... he fled the room, right? Upon fleeing the room, Darke proceeded to take the elevator. So wait, he took the elevator to the top floor where Gant's office is? I thought earlier they said he ran straight from the questioning room to the office, which happened to be across from the elevator. Maybe Darke really was targeting Gant's office all along? Then he ran into Skye and Gant's office. There was a lot of noise coming from outside, so I... Sound: Realization Explains how Darke got access to an office that needs a detective's ID to open the door. Neil Marshall rescued me, What was the prosecutor doing there? Deputy Chief Damon Gant, and Prosecutor Neil Marshall. (Almost forgot about Gant...)quote:Original line: "(Gant was there too...?)" I guess the original script had forgotten that we'd already heard Gant was there once before?   I assume that would also be why he was the first to run after Darke. And that's when Prosecutor Marshall came running in? But... but I'll never forget what I saw in that instant! Can you tell us about that? The lights?Sound: Realization It was just about this time of year... So the electricity went out? Wait a minute... If it was pitch dark in that room... Right, but just then lightning flashed again outside. Just noticing that Ema's sprites are great for both investigation conversation and testifying. I see... I told the detective about what I saw then. The detective? Sound: Realization  Interesting one to prompt on. Let's keep going. So you spoke with Detective Goodman about this... two years ago. And you told Detective Goodman about what you saw? Yes, but... That's why I drew a picture.Sound: Realization (A picture... Yes, I think she mentioned that before.) I'm surprised the picture is being brought up so soon. Onward! This picture the witness drew... I believe it has a very important meaning. quote:We can stop questioning Ema at either prompt, but since when has Phoenix displayed any empathy? Sound: Gavel   Y-yes, Your Honor. New statement! It replaces the last one we just dealt with. We of course immediately press on it. You drew a picture of the scene you witnessed, right? I can still see it now... Whenever I close my eyes... yet I never received any picture.Sound: Realization Perhaps the witness is mistaken? (This picture that Ema drew... that reminds me!) (I guess I should check the evidence again...)Sound: Realization Well anyway. Let's continue.Now I'm confused. It seems we have two things to present here.  Can you please describe it to us? The man... The man raised up his knife, and... and stabbed Mr. Marshall in the chest...! That must have been a real shock. Tell us... what were you doing at that moment? When lightning struck and the lights went out,Sound: Wipe   Hmm... Hmm. That's the end of the pressing.  I see a couple of possibilities, amongst our vast horde of evidence. So what should we present here?
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Oh boy here we go. I am looking forward to seeing how this plays out Edgeworth tagging in like that was great.
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This is Japanifornia, there's probably some obscure judgement originally made to gently caress the defense that says the prosecution has to approve any legal representation change mid trial.
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Love Edgeworth just going "gently caress it, let's roll"
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Omobono posted:This is Japanifornia, there's probably some obscure judgement originally made to gently caress the defense that says the prosecution has to approve any legal representation change mid trial.
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Edgeworth's going gently caress the rules I want the truth is always lovely to see.
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Leraika posted:Edgeworth's going gently caress the rules I want the truth is always lovely to see.
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Happy New Year everyone! As this thread enters its third calendar year with the end finally in sight, I just wanted to thank everyone who's stuck with it from the beginning and those who joined up late. For me these LPs are only worth doing when also seeing others' reactions to them, so thank you all for the over 2,000 replies so far.
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DKII posted:Happy New Year everyone! Does this mean you are stopping after the first and not going into Justice for All next? Either way, this has been a blast.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Does this mean you are stopping after the first and not going into Justice for All next? It's been downright amazing to see someone actually get through AA1 as a screenshot LP, especially of this quality. Big props to DKII. I would also believe that JFA would be its own thread, and so this thread would come to an end.
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fatsleepycat posted:It's been downright amazing to see someone actually get through AA1 as a screenshot LP, especially of this quality. Big props to DKII. Yeah I'll do a new thread for the second game. We already have over 150 updates in this one...
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DKII posted:
Actually, it makes him a spree killer, not a mass murderer. 
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The hell? That's not a serial killer, that's a crazy mass-murderer!