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The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Potato Salad posted:

it's like people have an innate, unspoken fear that filters remove some Divine Spark from the shared lung-gas that you would otherwise be freely breathing

the lengths that people will go to just not breathe through a filter, in order to eliminate particulate virions that make your brain dumb and heart weak

The guy who's probably gassing himself is also running an Airmega

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Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

spiritual bypass posted:

why so much talk about rsv? graphs always show so few cases compared to covid amd flu

It can be very dangerous to small children and have devastated pediatrics departments several years in a row (3rd year here :denmark:). It is plainly obvious in public statistics that something is awry (new weekly RSV hospitalizations by season):

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Pingui posted:

It can be very dangerous to small children and have devastated pediatrics departments several years in a row (3rd year here :denmark:). It is plainly obvious in public statistics that something is awry (new weekly RSV hospitalizations by season):


Variable rate adjustable immunity debt-backed securities

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


spiritual bypass posted:

why so much talk about rsv? graphs always show so few cases compared to covid amd flu

this came up a while ago, but RSV is itself pretty bad

its abnormal prevalence is a rather straightforward and grim indicator that something blew a hole through and prematurely aged the global populations' immune systems

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Potato Salad posted:

this came up a while ago, but RSV is itself pretty bad

its abnormal prevalence is a rather straightforward and grim indicator that something blew a hole through and prematurely aged the global populations' immune systems

DOGS

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Potato Salad posted:

this came up a while ago, but RSV is itself pretty bad

its abnormal prevalence is a rather straightforward and grim indicator that something blew a hole through and prematurely aged the global populations' immune systems

yeah rsv's seasonality was extremely stable until the last 3 years

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


clearly, the fault lies with a couple of weeks of not going outside quite as much several years ago, rather than the extraordinarily virulent novel coronavirus that it turns out plays every trick in the book that coronaviruses have for evading immunity that also induces a superantigenic response that fucks your naive immune cell count in every reputable study that's surveyed population of various immune cells through the timeline of acute and post acute infection

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Potato Salad posted:

clearly, the fault lies with dogs

Why Am I So Tired
Sep 28, 2021

Potato Salad posted:

hold on, who the gently caress is putting hypochlorous acid in a humidifier

According to the inevitable game of goon telephone, the entire COVID thread.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


fosborb posted:

yeah rsv's seasonality was extremely stable until the last 3 years

how could #lockdowns have done this to us

I will not stand for it I will not

See more of @Homeschool1488MAGA on x.com

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Why Am I So Tired posted:

According to the inevitable game of goon telephone, the entire COVID thread.

unbelievable name/post combo

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

My brain breaks a little every time I am at a medical facility and they ask me if I've been exposed to COVID or been out of the country in the last two weeks. All it serves is a reminder that they aren't doing poo poo and no one is wearing a mask or taking any measures to improve air quality and also gently caress you Mr or Ms check in person I can promise you that every single person you see has probably been exposed to COVID in the last two weeks including the person you see in the mirror.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
RSV in Denmark. A story in 3 dumb parts.

2021:

https://www-dr-dk.translate.goog/ny...&_x_tr_pto=wapp posted:

RS virus in infants forces hospitals to postpone operations
In some departments, planned operations have to be canceled while medical students are brought in for staff in elsewhere.

2022:

https://www-dr-dk.translate.goog/ny...&_x_tr_pto=wapp posted:

After towering hospitalization figures for the country's youngest children, 'everything indicates' that the dreaded RS virus is on the way back
Several hospital departments have been so overwhelmed by inpatients with the RS virus that they have had to send children on.

2023:

https://www-dr-dk.translate.goog/ny...&_x_tr_pto=wapp posted:

RS virus among infants puts pressure on children's wards
The number of newly hospitalized with RS virus in the Capital Region is at its highest in five years

The last article should read "highest in 6 years", with the caveat that 6 is as far back as the data goes... :-|

Imagine knowing the above and then blaming lockdowns as done in this article from 2 days ago:

Pingui has issued a correction as of 23:50 on Dec 21, 2023

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Potato Salad posted:

clearly, the fault lies with a couple of weeks of not going outside quite as much several years ago, rather than the extraordinarily virulent novel coronavirus that it turns out plays every trick in the book that coronaviruses have for evading immunity that also induces a superantigenic response that fucks your naive immune cell count in every reputable study that's surveyed population of various immune cells through the timeline of acute and post acute infection

In other threads in this very forum you'll regularly notice people talking about two years of lockdown and, uh, unless you lived in China or parts of Australia it was maybe a couple weeks of serious lockdown and at the very most another year of a measurable subset of the population taking extensive measures.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Thoguh posted:

My brain breaks a little every time I am at a medical facility and they ask me if I've been exposed to COVID or been out of the country in the last two weeks. All it serves is a reminder that they aren't doing poo poo and no one is wearing a mask or taking any measures to improve air quality and also gently caress you Mr or Ms check in person I can promise you that every single person you see has probably been exposed to COVID in the last two weeks including the person you see in the mirror.

Hell, in all likelihood they're being exposed to COVID while reading the sign.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde
Update on Diana aka Physics Girl.

https://youtu.be/xbcjf-hrOAs

tl;dw she's still in bad shape, but her husband is a great caretaker.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Thoguh posted:

In other threads in this very forum you'll regularly notice people talking about two years of lockdown and, uh, unless you lived in China or parts of Australia it was maybe a couple weeks of serious lockdown and at the very most another year of a measurable subset of the population taking extensive measures.

Completely subjectively, I think that there is a fairly common sense in the western world that Something Is Very Wrong, but it's way easier for people to accept causes that are out of left field became they don't require people to change their worldviews in any way that actually matters:

"the truth is that the world is flat, and our ignorance is why things are wrong right now"

"there is a shadowy cabal illuminati harvesting adrenochrome for antifa supersoldiers, that's why everything is wrong right now"

"#BigTech is censoring me and my buddies who just have #questions about (((the Jews))) and immigrants, and that's why everything is off right now wake up sheeple"

"There is no conspicuous, completely-obvious rise in severe unseasonable illnesses, and even if there was, it's because of YEARS of tyrannical#lockdowns"

It's easier to accept that these things are actually at fault for all of our problems, because the alternative is accepting that we need to genuinely address unfettered capitalism that has mutated into a bastard socialism-for-corporations economy, a global pandemic that will continue to attack literally hearts and minds for as long as it remains un-eradicated, and a rising global rightwing extremist movement hellbent on permanently altering western democracies. That's very uncomfortable for people who would rather pretend that they feel comfortable right now.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


People would rather attribute The Vibes Being Off to conspiracy theories so they can sit in their living rooms and shake their fists at chemtrails. That's easier than accepting that our problems are things that they actually have some civic responsibility to address.

"Why would I wear a mask, the lockdowns caused this #ImmuneDebt"

Why Am I So Tired
Sep 28, 2021
https://twitter.com/michael_hoerger/status/1737582325779624059

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Steve Yun posted:

you idiot

Covid is a respiratory disease

you don’t need to coat yourself in hand sanitizer

just your lungs

but how am i going to breath. i heard it was carried in the bloodstream, so wouldn't it be safer to inject hand sanitizer directly into your veins??

Why Am I So Tired
Sep 28, 2021
Not sure if this one was posted here back in October but I just saw it come up on Twitter. Very readable with sources for everything.

https://www.normalcyfugitive.com/p/the-pandemic-isnt-over

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate
still in the er and I was told the peds wing is full of RSV. I came back after while and the staff barely wearing the baggy blues were telling me that I might not want to go back to see my spouse in the ER due to all the covid etc. I was like ..I’m wearing a good mask(aura) I’m fine. very foreign concept. she was pretty irritated at my answer. whatever.

not to mention the majority of hospital staff is unmasked so I guess they don’t give a poo poo . a janitor and 2 people in the waiting rooms are either wearing the duckbill or an aura. the janitor had a red band aura which I haven’t seen.

I thought I’ve seen everything regarding masks but it’s a master class in how not to wear a baggy blue in the past few hrs I’ve been here.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

sonatinas posted:

a janitor and 2 people in the waiting rooms are either wearing the duckbill or an aura. the janitor had a red band aura which I haven’t seen.


Scruffy the janitor prying the brainslugs off the crew of the Planet Express ship again

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
I never understood those fogging disinfector things we saw pics of from China occasionally. The odds of airborne COVID viruses 'colliding' with disinfectant in the air and being destroyed don't seem great. Certainly nothing like how 222/254nm can strike them while suspended in midair.

miketh
Aug 19, 2005
wookie ghost trouble
re: hypochlorous acid humidifiers, I came across this the other day:

https://www.fortunejournals.com/art...assessment.html

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Rescue Toaster posted:

I never understood those fogging disinfector things we saw pics of from China occasionally. The odds of airborne COVID viruses 'colliding' with disinfectant in the air and being destroyed don't seem great. Certainly nothing like how 222/254nm can strike them while suspended in midair.

I think the idea was that you’d clean out your mucous membranes with it for a few seconds and it would have a similar preventative effect to the nasal sprays, which is to say maybe preventative but not backed up by any rock solid studies yet

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Rescue Toaster posted:

I never understood those fogging disinfector things we saw pics of from China occasionally. The odds of airborne COVID viruses 'colliding' with disinfectant in the air and being destroyed don't seem great. Certainly nothing like how 222/254nm can strike them while suspended in midair.

One of the expats in this thread was saying it was pretty much just security theater, as were a number of other countermeasures.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

sonatinas posted:

still in the er and I was told the peds wing is full of RSV. I came back after while and the staff barely wearing the baggy blues were telling me that I might not want to go back to see my spouse in the ER due to all the covid etc. I was like ..I’m wearing a good mask(aura) I’m fine. very foreign concept. she was pretty irritated at my answer. whatever.

not to mention the majority of hospital staff is unmasked so I guess they don’t give a poo poo . a janitor and 2 people in the waiting rooms are either wearing the duckbill or an aura. the janitor had a red band aura which I haven’t seen.

I thought I’ve seen everything regarding masks but it’s a master class in how not to wear a baggy blue in the past few hrs I’ve been here.

red band are surgical grade, resistant to splashes of bodily fluids iirc

Has RSV in the USA for this year surpassed last year yet?

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

Why was the international travel thing so important anyways? I feel like by the time protective measures were actually hitting, even in the "peak lockdown" month or two we had, it was already throughout the country at that point. Driving to canada and back was not like a bigger risk than anything that involved people and yet was somehow marked as more important. My wife's chemo clinic was incredibly diligent about asking this question every week we showed up for a treatment and don't get me wrong I think flagging travel in a general sense was an okay idea but really the difference between international or domestic was already irrelevant and even non travel just general behavior was probably more significant.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

PoundSand posted:

Why was the international travel thing so important anyways?

starts with an r and ends with ism

Baddog
May 12, 2001

miketh posted:

re: hypochlorous acid humidifiers, I came across this the other day:

https://www.fortunejournals.com/art...assessment.html

Hey this "study" is just a bunch of dudes who work at a company that sells hypochlorous and "skin care and wellness" products. It is kind of an amusing read though.

I think we should prolly just stop talking about huffing the stuff. Feels way too much like trump and bleach. Basically just another version of "how about if we disinfect our insides, that would work, right??"

It doesn't seem like it's harmful at nominal amounts, but I don't trust goons to get the right concentrations and/or get the correct chemicals and/or not breath it for wayyy too drat long.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Fogging looked badass when Chinese folks in Moon suits were doing it on deserted city streets.

I would order the same if I were president. It’s theatre, but sometimes there is value in theatre.

If you’re doing it in your house and it’s making you ill, you should probably stop doing it though.

Soap Scum
Aug 8, 2003



Steve Yun posted:

starts with an r and ends with ism

rcultural marxism

Baddog
May 12, 2001
renophobia. ism.

Hungry Squirrel
Jun 30, 2008

You gonna eat that?
I'm not doubling down, and I will own my stupidity, but I need to defend my honor enough to say that I learned about this from someone ITT, so if y'all were trolling and I fell for it, then that was bad and you should feel bad.

Samuel Glompers
Nov 26, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw21dO_0ZEM

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Hungry Squirrel posted:

I'm not doubling down, and I will own my stupidity, but I need to defend my honor enough to say that I learned about this from someone ITT, so if y'all were trolling and I fell for it, then that was bad and you should feel bad.

Yeah, but wasn’t that from Maxwellhill, who got COVID anyway? Or from Ibid, who hasn’t been seen for four months?

N = 2 and all that, but it’s not looking good for the ærosolized HOCL intervention.

Ham Cheeks
Nov 18, 2012

Feeling hammy

I completely missed this and it is deeply funny to me. Do you have more info on it?

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."
anyone who believes that small children cannot or will not cough directly into an adult's face at any opportunity has never spent time around small children

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Internet Janitor posted:

anyone who believes that small children cannot or will not cough directly into an adult's face at any opportunity has never spent time around small children

Tragically, they took parenting advice from Emily Oster.

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